The Walking Dead Season 1 Finale (GAME OVER)

KuroiXHF · Post Post #3150 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:53 am

Yeah. I'm not voting MoI.

Basic · Post Post #3151 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:55 am

Just an observation.
Brent was the unnamed crinimal that shot Rick....
Also thought to portray walkers in the following episodes.

I was flipping on Magna. But i believe that was the hammer.
ANYWAY.....

Basic · Post Post #3152 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:03 am

WHOOPS!
Actually didnt register YAW unvoted.
L-1.

Xkfyu · Post Post #3153 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:03 am

In post 3151, Basic wrote:Brent was the unnamed crinimal that shot Rick....

I can confirm this.

In post 3151, Basic wrote:Also thought to portray walkers in the following episodes.

I guess you mean that the actor who played Brent portrayed walkers? Because my flavor says that Brent was shot and killed right after shooting Rick.

Xkfyu · Post Post #3154 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:04 am

In post 3152, Basic wrote:WHOOPS!
Actually didnt register YAW unvoted.
L-1.

L-2 I think.

Wisdom · Post Post #3155 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:06 am

Flavor is not alignment indicative. Scum have fakeclaims.

Wisdom · Post Post #3156 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:08 am

Xk confirm youll be shooting Maria please. Therell be no excuses tomorrow.

Xkfyu · Post Post #3157 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:11 am

In post 3155, Wisdom wrote:Flavor is not alignment indicative. Scum have fakeclaims.

Doesn't mean I shouldn't confirm it.

Xkfyu · Post Post #3158 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:13 am

In post 3156, Wisdom wrote:Xk confirm youll be shooting Maria please. Therell be no excuses tomorrow.

Right now, it's between Maria and Basic.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #3159 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:46 am

In post 3158, Xkfyu wrote:Right now, it's between Maria and Basic.

If I get lynched don't forget Wisdom. My Town flip will confirm the what I'm saying is from a Town perspective but his play today surrounding me is very, very forced.

He started the Day pushing me for calling Maria scum.
Then when the wagon got taken over by Farside he abandoned ship to hardcore defend me.
Then when the heat comes back on Maria he's back to me as scum.

His play today very much looks like a Maria partner - went on a chainsaw rampage early and then when the wagon was nice and established hopped off to defend for "Town credit" for having a correct read on me later. He at one point today "toyed" with that he was mis-reading Maria but has quickly moved away from that and is back to lynching me when Maria becomes viable.

All this assumes you are actually Town of course Xk ...

Radja · Post Post #3160 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:48 am

Day 4, VC 5

MagnaofIllusion (5)

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DrippingGoofball, MariaR, Wisdom, farside22, My Other Head Is Scum

MariaR (4)

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Xkfyu, KuroiXHF, BlueBloodedToffee, MagnaofIllusion

Xkfyu (3)

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SirCakez, Dwlee99, Basic

Not Voting (1)

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Young and Witless

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline is on September 23rd at 08:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2016-09-23 20:00:00).

Mod Notes - None

MariaR · Post Post #3161 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:25 am

Coming on my cpu give me a sec

Wisdom · Post Post #3162 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:33 am

In post 3159, MagnaofIllusion wrote:His play today very much looks like a Maria partner

yeah and instead of getting xk lynched I proposed he shoots maria instead. Solid partner play

MariaR · Post Post #3163 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:35 am

In post 3076, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Ok back from V/LA –

First order of business was revising the MoiPuter outputs for the “Mod Oops” on not counting Wisdom’s Peregrine vote. The revised vote-count would knocks MOHIS from voting Peregrine and adds Wisdom. Also fun fact – when revising my number I didn’t list MOHIS in my tiers at all the first time. Seems like all the players supposedly scum-reading me would have noticed that and pointed that out. Maybe I missed them doing so in my phone reading this weekend but I doubt it.

In an event the new tiers (with a fifth Tier since the changes sits Scumbag Maria all by herself at the top of the heap with the worst voting profile in the game) –

Tier 1 – MariaR
Tier2 – Kuroi, Basic, MOHIS
Tier 3 – Wisdom, Sir Cakez, DGB, YAR
Tier 4 – Dwlee, Xkfyu
Tier 5 – BBT, Farside.

Again for those of you who can’t understand pure VCA Tiers – these are solely the results of crunching the stats in the MoIputer and don’t reflect my in thread reads.

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VOTE: MariaR

Still scum. I mean look at the following posts and tell me this comes from Town –

In post 2961, MariaR wrote:I'm prob chainsaw lynching xk and Moi regardless of flips
At the point she posted this myself and xkfyu are by far the most likely lynches to go through. And MariaR basically says “I’m voting here regardless of flips”. Which means someone else flips scum and she isn’t revising her mindset at all.

I mean, she could just be VI level bad Town but I try to not label people I’ve never played before with that label until they’ve proven in multiple games that the tag applies.

In post 2641, MariaR wrote:meh Mag doesn't have any reason to sr me so I blame him 100% if he flips town can't be my fault at all not at all
And this is absolutely a scum mind-set. Setting the stage for abdication of any responsibility with a Town me flip. And despite Farside and MariaR’s ranting that is exactly what would happen.

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Finally all I will say on the “MoI is scum from single game meta” – laughable. I mean SnarkySnowman levels of terrible.

Have some other games to catch up as well. Back to muddle through the weekend’s spamfest and see if anything of import is hidden in Farside’s herp-a-derp posting.

I'm sure others feel the same way about chainsaw lynching a few people but don't have the guts to say it and I can
and that 2nd post you quoted I'm sure you just FORGOT that I said that was sarcasm in the post below right? You just forgot?

MariaR · Post Post #3164 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:36 am

Your vote log tier shit is stupid because no mafia would ever allow themself to even be i that tier you're not even trying to counter my facts I put against you and are just being stubborn and ignoring them @Moi

MariaR · Post Post #3165 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:38 am

In post 2584, MariaR wrote:
In post 2580, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 2578, MariaR wrote:What part of as scum I would of joined the Pere wagon do you not understand?
Probably the part where you did hop on and then hopped off immediately hoping his claim would save him, perhaps?
Why would I take that risk when 1) Pere was already a top lynch choice before Cake outted a report and 2 I never defended him about it I never said Pere is prob town! As scum I would either try to hardcore defend him or just get on the wagon not some shitty inbetween that's the worst outcome I could possibly do because as scum I can either defend myself with A) I was on the wagon also so can't be me! or B) Why would I hard defend my partner!
I can't do either of those now can I

In post 2585, MariaR wrote:If I'm scum I'm in a really bad spot clearly right? So taking risks would be really bad for me the only expense of a risk I can do is if I am townread by a town of people I'm very low on everyone's totem pole in fact the only people who tr is Farside I am no place to put more heat on myself as scum

Wisdom · Post Post #3166 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:39 am

In post 3158, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 3156, Wisdom wrote:Xk confirm youll be shooting Maria please. Therell be no excuses tomorrow.
Right now, it's between Maria and Basic.

How about this;
You shoot Maria if Magna flips town
You shoot Basic if Magna flips scum

MariaR · Post Post #3167 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:43 am

In post 3166, Wisdom wrote:
In post 3158, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 3156, Wisdom wrote:Xk confirm youll be shooting Maria please. Therell be no excuses tomorrow.
Right now, it's between Maria and Basic.
How about this;
You shoot Maria if Magna flips town
You shoot Basic if Magna flips scum

I can honestly be okay with this

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #3168 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:48 am

In post 3164, MariaR wrote:Your vote log tier shit is stupid because no mafia would ever allow themself to even be i that tier you're not even trying to counter my facts I put against you and are just being stubborn and ignoring them @Moi

See that's where you are wrong. In fact Farside quoted the exact game where that happened recently in trying to say I don't use the MoiPuter as Town -

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=66239

Post 90.

Interestingly enough running MoIputer with Shea as Town gives the following suspicion groups

<Lowell>
Empty Space
<Aristoph>
<Untrod>
<KMD, Creature, Snarky>

Literally Lowell is almost an order of magnitude worse than Arist in the revised MoiPuter.

Lowell scum lynched the day after I posted this at Night.

I can't say for absolute certainty you are scum. Only the Mod can.

However I can say your handwaving here is wrong and makes me happy with my vote.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #3169 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:49 am

In post 3165, MariaR wrote:
In post 2584, MariaR wrote:
In post 2580, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 2578, MariaR wrote:What part of as scum I would of joined the Pere wagon do you not understand?
Probably the part where you did hop on and then hopped off immediately hoping his claim would save him, perhaps?
Why would I take that risk when 1) Pere was already a top lynch choice before Cake outted a report and 2 I never defended him about it I never said Pere is prob town! As scum I would either try to hardcore defend him or just get on the wagon not some shitty inbetween that's the worst outcome I could possibly do because as scum I can either defend myself with A) I was on the wagon also so can't be me! or B) Why would I hard defend my partner!
I can't do either of those now can I

In post 2585, MariaR wrote:If I'm scum I'm in a really bad spot clearly right? So taking risks would be really bad for me the only expense of a risk I can do is if I am townread by a town of people I'm very low on everyone's totem pole in fact the only people who tr is Farside I am no place to put more heat on myself as scum

So your defense is that your play is so bad you can't be scum?

Sorry child but scum play not optimally all the time. It's how you get caught.

MariaR · Post Post #3170 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:51 am

Answer me this Pere my scum buddy gets caught in a guilty claim and I am openly off the wagon why?

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #3171 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:55 am

In post 3170, MariaR wrote:Answer me this Pere my scum buddy gets caught in a guilty claim and I am openly off the wagon why?

This has been gone over to death.

Perhaps with a Ninja already flipped you thought his claim would save him. Until I caught his blown Safe-claim goof it looked like that might happen. Frankly I can't tell you why you did that.

Answer me this - why, if I am scum, do I lead the lynch on my Ninja partner and then blow up my Tracker partner's only chance at warding off the Guilty that was only 85% guilty?

MariaR · Post Post #3172 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:58 am

In post 3171, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 3170, MariaR wrote:Answer me this Pere my scum buddy gets caught in a guilty claim and I am openly off the wagon why?
This has been gone over to death.

Perhaps with a Ninja already flipped you thought his claim would save him. Until I caught his blown Safe-claim goof it looked like that might happen. Frankly I can't tell you why you did that.

Answer me this - why, if I am scum, do I lead the lynch on my Ninja partner and then blow up my Tracker partner's only chance at warding off the Guilty that was only 85% guilty?

The answer to the first part is simple that you do it to get cred and always have at as a defense to back yourself up on if you're confident in your skills it doesn't matter what role they are the 2nd part is laughable because 1) His claim wasn't going to save him and 2) You just called him out before anyone else could

If I wanted to save my partner I would of full blown call him town not some half assed play like a moron.

MariaR · Post Post #3173 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:58 am

Going over "saves" when it would almost get a cc is really stupid

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #3174 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:00 am

In post 3173, MariaR wrote:Going over "saves" when it would almost get a cc is really stupid

No, pretending that your defense of "I'd do better as scum" is meaningful is stupid.

I mean, if your Town play is that bad why should your scum play be a masterpiece again ...