Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

[Transcend]

err1 has bad games, no need to beat yourself up

[MarioManiac4]

yeah, tb and nadroj were good

[MarioManiac4]

err1 has bad games, no need to beat yourself up

to be honest this was less a bad game and more of a shit game

[Kelvin Smith]

lol mmm got caught d1 by myself and grey

You "caught" MMM as much as you "caught" me. Please don't act like you had absolute knowledge just because you happened to be correct.

[BigYoshiFan]

So that puts me at 1:5 for town games. :p

[Transcend]

i backtracked on you though

just had posting issue with you

mm was outright scumclaiming

but it's cool

[Gamma Emerald]

I think that's the second fucking game scum have won with an even night role claim, at least in recent history
I think the normal meta is shifting very dangerously towards abusing odd/even night roles

Who was the first :O

You me and mulch lol

[RayFrost]

I honestly wanted to no lynch this game day but didn't think anybody would be willing to take me up on that without reasons and if I gave the reasons it wouldn't be useful (if ircher's scum, he can't die - if he's town, he has to die or scum risk losing the game, so with no death the ircher claim is more suspect). I typed up a post about it then deleted it.

Ircher's claim wasn't solid to me but his play itself wasn't that scummy to me either.

MMM was very scummy to me, but I felt like Gamma / MMM was the team, so lynching one before the other didn't matter. PP actually seemed rather townish to me in the end.

[MarioManiac4]

^ for me
MMM and Ircher were good; MMM's play fooled me at least, even if not pretty much everyone else, and Ircher's fakeclaim was either well-thought out, or I am just even more stupid then I thought
I actually had the team early d3 and then I stupidized myself out of it is the funny part

[Transcend]

I think that's the second fucking game scum have won with an even night role claim, at least in recent history
I think the normal meta is shifting very dangerously towards abusing odd/even night roles

Who was the first :O

You me and mulch lol

wow rly? guess i forgot

[MarioManiac4]

mm was outright scumclaiming

Before this game I was planning to RVS MMM on page 1 because someone might mix up MM and MMM in LYLO and abuse the vote system

[BigYoshiFan]

I honestly wanted to no lynch this game day but didn't think anybody would be willing to take me up on that without reasons and if I gave the reasons it wouldn't be useful (if ircher's scum, he can't die - if he's town, he has to die or scum risk losing the game, so with no death the ircher claim is more suspect). I typed up a post about it then deleted it.

Gahhhh. You should've pushed for that.

[Kelvin Smith]

honestly though fuck me
i should have at least scrutinised ircher's claim
or at least not backed out from mmm there
like my iso this game is like a comedy and each post digs further into the hole

Yes, you should have. But you didn't, so don't dwell on it. Just let it be a lesson to you. May you do better next time. Also, I said this in the dead thread:

"Oh, the mods mentioned a mod error in the game thread, completely unprovoked. Must be unrelated to this really weird discrepancy in this claimed town PR's results."

[RayFrost]

My feeling regarding all the setup speculation: it's garbage and ends up doing bad things.

Hasn't changed from the results of this game.

Yoshi, nobody would've gone for it without an explanation, and if I explained it it wouldn't work

[Transcend]

/egothrust

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh I got tangled up in Jordan's previous game

[RayFrost]

Also, I messaged thinkbig immediately after he said that thing about the results asking if my result was what it was supposed to be and he messaged me back saying yes:

No results

In light of the most recent post by you in thread.

I would like to confirm that

my result here is accurate to what I should have gotten given the night interactions that I do not know about in the previous game phase

No results is the correct result.

[Kelvin Smith]

Yeah, you should've done that, Ray. There was literally no good reason not to No Lynch. That was probably the most egregious town error.

[TwoFace]

And idk why the fuck you hammered ray. Seriously

[MarioManiac4]

"Mechanics which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Lying to the players"
from the wiki.
This was the reason why I didn't consider that Ray might have been given the wrong result intentionally. I guess I was wrong to think that, though.

[RayFrost]

I am 99% certain that

nobody else

would've followed me on the no lynch, especially given they found me suspicious already. And I didn't want to push for something with the words "trust me" when I had no trust to work with.

And I hammered because I felt that the most likely scum team was MMM / Gamma and given that information lynching either one results in the same thing.

[Kelvin Smith]

I don't know why, but this fucking awful loss kind of makes me want to play Mafia again. Don't know why though. Like, I genuinely believe the game is a 100% pointless, time-consuming coin flip, but I still want to play for some reason.

[RayFrost]

I'm going to go back to not playing mafia for different but similar reasons to the last time I quit.

[MarioManiac4]

mafia is a terrible game and the only way people still play it is because it draws you back in, hungry to either fix what happened last game, or continue your great record from last game

[Gamma Emerald]