Mini 882: Star Wars: Legacy of the Force Mafia(GAME OVER!)


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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:04 am

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I tend to agree that lynching Cat will test Nach's innocence.

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:20 am

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... We haven't even gotten clarification on either of their claims.

And regardless of what the clarification is, I still prefer lynching snow_bunny by miles.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:21 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:I tend to agree that lynching Cat will test Nach's innocence.

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Wait, what? You want to lynch someone so we can test the innocence of someone else (so we can verify that you got an innocent as cop)? Why not just go directly to the source and lynch Nachomamma? That cuts out all the loose ends and complications.

I really don't like the way you're jumping all over the board lately. It seems like you're scrambling to put us on any track that doesn't lead to you or, to a lesser extent, Nachomamma. I still like Nachomamma and you as my top suspects.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:23 am

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Yeah, and if they are neighbors, lynching one isn't going to prove anything regarding the other necessarily.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:25 am

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Also, why was it so easy for SB to get your vote off of her Jason?
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:48 am

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Hi guys. I'm back from my work forced exile. I'll be catching up hopefully today. Thanks for being patience.

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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:58 am

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FOS: Jason
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:58 am

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AlmasterGM wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:I tend to agree that lynching Cat will test Nach's innocence.

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Wait, what? You want to lynch someone so we can test the innocence of someone else (so we can verify that you got an innocent as cop)? Why not just go directly to the source and lynch Nachomamma? That cuts out all the loose ends and complications.

I really don't like the way you're jumping all over the board lately. It seems like you're scrambling to put us on any track that doesn't lead to you or, to a lesser extent, Nachomamma. I still like Nachomamma and you as my top suspects.
Fair enough, it could work either way, but I have already stated
jasonT1981 wrote:I could get behind it fully if it was not for my innocent on him in my investigation. I am pretty torn right now. My main reason I investigated him was my belief from day 1 he was scum.
Which is why I voted Cat over Nach.
Zachrulez wrote:Also, why was it so easy for SB to get your vote off of her Jason?
I wanted her to post, I had seen her all over the boards, and lurking about this game... wanted to get her attention and get her to post by voting her.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:08 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Zachrulez wrote:Also, why was it so easy for SB to get your vote off of her Jason?
I wanted her to post, I had seen her all over the boards, and lurking about this game... wanted to get her attention and get her to post by voting her.
So you voted for her, but you didn't really mean it?

Way to ignore my previous posts btw.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:16 am

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Zachrulez wrote:... We haven't even gotten clarification on either of their claims.

And regardless of what the clarification is, I still prefer lynching snow_bunny by miles.
That is true, I have asked them to elaborate further on their claims and as to how I am mentioned in their PM

I think the way Nach and Cat reacted was a bit strange, almost as if they where waiting for a claim like that to jump all over, would it not stand to reason that I would be named in their PM also as the person who is in that role..

thats if their characters where or are trying to kill me after all.....

Can you state your case on SB Zach?
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:18 am

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Is there something about my line of inquiry on SB that isn't clear to you?
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:19 am

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Hell do you even think Cateraction is scum?

Your voting post doesn't make it look like you're convinced. Your stance feels soft. "Testing a claim."

I don't like it at all.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:58 am

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I apologize, upon re-reading my PM we are indeed neighbors, not masons. I did not understand the differenece, I've never played as either before.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:04 am

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Your attacks on me in post 215 do make sense if you were confident in Nacho being town at the time.

Given that neighbors are basically unconfirmed masons, does that change your feelings about Nacho at all or do you generally feel the same about him as you did before?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:41 am

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We've both told each other we're town aligned. I have no reason to suspect otherwise as we share the same target. However, I'm not unwilling to entertain the possibility. However, I am sure that Jason is lying and should be lynched.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:56 am

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But a new threat looms...on Han Solo's homeworld of
Corellia,
cries of independence threaten the foundation
of the fragile Alliance
, and on the asteroid Bimmiel, and
even darker threat beckons
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JT claimed scum.
Thrakan Sal-Solo
is the guy crying for independence and threatening the Alliance (he probably has someone helping him).
Lumiya and her apprentice
are the darker threat. The mod's flavor from the OP is identical to the book and we've already seen that Lumiya was indeed mafia.

The Jedi are part of the GA, and I know the GA is town. Sometimes there are games where mafia are switched around, but in this case JT's claim that this could be one such game would require bastard modding and that's not a reasonable assumption.

-The claims that JT should consider himself insane are also ridiculous. Unless there is reason to suspect a claimed cop is insane, that should not be the default position.

-Looks like most (if not all) the players here are not familiar with the source. I strongly suggest reading the wiki articles on LOTF, Betrayal, and all the major characters.

Vote: JT


-NM8 and Cat's claim narrows them down to a few specific characters. I'm comfortable considering them probable town based on flavor. I don't see any necessity in pressing for more info from either of them.

However, one thing to keep in mind, if NM8 is Dur Gejjen, then it is possible that he is in league with JT, and their play could be an elaborate bus.

@JT-
What is the flavor of Thrackan as a cop?
Why did you choose to investigate NM8?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:41 pm

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Zachrulez wrote:They are also roles that are easily confused with each other.
We are neighbors, but to explain some of the confusion, the quicktopic in which we speak is called the SW Masonry Board. So... yeah.


I don't like how Jason is voting right now. He seems to be darting from bandwagon to bandwagon, and seeing what fits.
Wait, what? You want to lynch someone so we can test the innocence of someone else (so we can verify that you got an innocent as cop)? Why not just go directly to the source and lynch Nachomamma? That cuts out all the loose ends and complications.

I really don't like the way you're jumping all over the board lately. It seems like you're scrambling to put us on any track that doesn't lead to you or, to a lesser extent, Nachomamma. I still like Nachomamma and you as my top suspects.


Alamaster, what complications are you talking about?
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:34 pm

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Kast wrote:
@JT-
What is the flavor of Thrackan as a cop?

Why did you choose to investigate NM8?
1) can you elaborate? my role simply stated town cop and then the information I have already provided.

2) I had him as a possible suspect on Day 1. we bickered quite a bit during day 1 also, and I made my suspicions very clear about him
jasonT1981 in ISO post 18 wrote: Right now China and Nach are my two top choices for being scum.

I also do not believe this game is as straight forward as Jedi vs Sith.

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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:01 pm

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If what Kast says is true, then JT must be scum.

But, there's another thing I want to point out. More often than not, when neighbours are used, one is scum and one is town. So... yeah.

Arg, I'm a bit confused. It wouldn't be the first time where the so-obvious-scum-claim would actually be town. And, the scum-town neighbour thing draws my attention as well.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:16 pm

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To be honest, I do not see any way out of being lynched for myself. What Kast says is pretty compelling against me and truthfully, I would probably be voting anyone in a similar position to myself right now given different circumstances.

SB makes an interesting point about neighbors being scum/town... in that case, if it is true my innocent on Nach could make Cat guilty... but only if the above is actually the case.

I don't like how Cat, early in day 2 didn't really add anything when voting me, or confirming that what Nach said is true. one liners basically. That is another reason my vote is on him,it seems like he thinks he can get by on what Nach is saying and not be suspicious because of my innocent on Nach. Almost like he thinks he is scott free and now does not have to add much to the game at times.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:16 pm

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SB, why aren't you voting him then?

And if you thought that neighbors came in a town-scum combo, then why the hell did you try to vote cat to confirm my alignment?
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:18 pm

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Any vote puts me at L-1 BTW, and the possibility of a quick lynch.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:27 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:SB, why aren't you voting him then?

And if you thought that neighbors came in a town-scum combo, then why the hell did you try to vote cat to confirm my alignment?
1. For the reason I believe the neighbours come in town-scum combo. And, if we suppose for just a second he's telling the truth about being cop and you being innocent, then that would totally fit.

2. I believe we will get more info from a Cat's lynch than from yours or JT's. If Cat flips scum, then you're likely town, and so is JT. If he flips town, then you and JT are likely scum.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:51 pm

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I think the scums are most likely to be Jason and Snow_Bunny.

I'm leaning town on Cateraction and don't like how they're trying to lynch him on a scum/town theory that doesn't even come close to certainty, and ignores the reaction to my Nacho attacks from Cat that I pointed out from day 1.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:08 pm

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Vote Count:
JasonT1981(4) - cateraction, Nachomamma8, Snow_Bunny, D3x
Nachomamma8(2) - AlmasterGM, Bogre
Snow_Bunny(2) - Zachrule
Cateraction(1) - JastonT1981
Not Voting(2): Kast, PHANTOM

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