Metropolis: Revisited [Game Over]

[Magua]

Look: Is there anyone who's *against* lynching Hrezs? Anyone who does not think this is a good lynch?

(Aside from Hrezs. Yes, yes, I see what you did thar.)

[Friend]

Baby Spice, that is fairly ridiculous.

You're getting up there on my scumlist too.

Magua: I'm for it.

[Baby Spice]

Isn't mucking up the scum numbers a clasic scum tell?

Granted this is a complex set-up and it could be genuine, but KK should at least be questioned/pressured about it.

[Toogeloo]

There are 3 members per gang.

[ThAdmiral]

If the inner circle are scum, and as far as I'm concerned they are, then there's 11 scum.
If you think the IC are town then there's 10. Who here would think the IC are town? They have a non town win con for starters.

Ergo, someone thinks the IC aren't scum, and there for is a good chance to be one.

As LL said - ridiculous conjecture.
How is getting the numbers wrong a scum-tell?

Isn't mucking up the scum numbers a clasic scum tell?

I'd never actually heard of it as a scum-tell tbh.

Look: Is there anyone who's *against* lynching Hrezs? Anyone who does not think this is a good lynch?

*Raises hand timidly*

I was saying boo-urns...

[AGar]

I could go for a BS lynch. Nitpicking, hardcore.

[StrangerCoug]

Reading. There's something else I want to get to, so expect just quick notes.

[StrangerCoug]

God damn this computer, crashing and making me lose my notes and then deciding not to load Firefox and making me use IE...

Quickies from the first half of the game or so:

Wraith not wanting to break the game is null in the long run. There's legitimate scumhunting and then there's bad setup design that leads to unhappy players.
Exe gets an

FoS

for random pseudo-voting when we had info to go on.
Toogeloo is obvscum. He defends his page 3 strike as gut and denounces the pseudo-voting system out of fear of scum controlling the strike. To me, what he advocates instead is like randomly voting because we have a scumgroup. I've seen him play better.
Albert B. Rampage gets an

HoS

for stifling discussion about Toogeloo and is likely his buddy.
I don't see ThAdmiral's deflection.

For now, VOTE: Toogeloo.

[DrippingGoofball]

Then have you read my description in reply to you...? Have you read the game?

Yes, and yes! The game, I'm definitely reading.

[StrangerCoug]

The rest:

ABR is

STILL

trying to derail discussion of Toog? Gee whiz!
Can't decide on Exe vs. Friend right now. MagnaofIllusion interrupting at #232 stands out, though—do you have links to games where Exe acted like this as scum?
#252: That's what I was planning on doing.
#260: How do you get that interpretation?

Anything else, let me know. As for Lady Lambdadelta asking me to ISO Hrezs, I did that last night and he didn't stand out to me as very remarkable. I can live with his lynch (in fact, I believe I had a comment about him in my notes before I lost them—let me check), but Toogeloo and ABR are the two people I'd be happiest with killing.

[Friend]

I could also go for a Baby Spice lynch.

[ReaperCharlie]

Metropolis:

Revisited

— The Phantom Pollbooth

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MagnaofIllusion [1] – Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet

– Everyone else

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With 24 alive, it takes 15 strikes to kill, and 10 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 3rd, 11pm PST (April 4th 2am EST).

.

[ReaperCharlie]

Wraith has requested replacement.

Next replacement on the list is

camn.

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Edit:

Indeed,

camn

replaces

Wraith

.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Kublai Khan

All of his significant play thus far has been bad tunneling on Bunnylover and defending.
Bad tunneling because his primary case, found in ISO #5, is completely and totally terrible.

Um.. Okay.

I noticed that you're addressing the group as opposed to me directly. Do you want me to respond now, or to wait and see the reactions of everyone else first?

I'd love if you responded immediately.

Vote: Kublai Khan

All of his significant play thus far has been bad tunneling on Bunnylover and defending.
Bad tunneling because his primary case, found in ISO #5, is completely and totally terrible.

Meh. Tunneling isn't a tell of anything.

Normal tunneling isn't, no.

Nacho, what is your read on Bunnylover?

Null-leaning scum.
If it is scum v scum, I'd much rather have KK-scum out of the way first, anyways.

I could go for a BS lynch. Nitpicking, hardcore.

In other words, classic Baby Spice.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR are the two people I'd be happiest with killing.

I can live with that.

[DrippingGoofball]

OMG OMG camn

[Toogeloo]

DGB, anything besides fluff on your mind?

[StrangerCoug]

ABR are the two people I'd be happiest with killing.

I can live with that.

Is that all? Defense, forthcoming or already posted?

[Nachomamma8]

STRANGERCOUG

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, anything besides fluff on your mind?

Marshmallows
Shipping peanuts
Lint
Gummy bears

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR are the two people I'd be happiest with killing.

I can live with that.

Is that all? Defense, forthcoming or already posted?

I think we should concentrate on scum that can still strike today. We can come back to the maggot if we think he's scum tomorrow.

If we think the first strike is a null tell, like the majority of the players here do -which I correctly anticipated due to my significant experience playing mafia-, there's no need to even discuss him (contrary to his belief that he sparked discussion).

[Toogeloo]

I think SC was referring to a defense from you ABR...

[Kublai Khan]

I'd love if you responded immediately.

Okay.

Vote: Kublai Khan

All of his significant play thus far has been bad tunneling on Bunnylover and defending.
Bad tunneling because his primary case, found in ISO #5, is completely and totally terrible.

A) Misrepresenting: I never stated I was trying to lynch either.
B) What is scummy about wanting to setup multiple lynches. There are 10 scum in this game. We are nipple-deep in scum.
C) You ignored that I also called out Magua.
D) You ignored that Lady Lambdadelta made a very similar post here that you overlooked.

This case was set off by a one-line post from Bunnylover, causing Kublai Khan to remark how amazing it was that that much scumminess was backed into one line.
A) The word "lynch" was not mentioned by Bunnylover at all.
B) The scummy part about setting up lynches in the first place is because they're lynching without thought. It's an even worse idea to lynch without thought when you have less room to make mistakes.
C) It was a one line post, not a case.
D) It was a one line post, not a case.

A) I checked back and you're actually correct on that. The word 'lynch' was never uttered by bunnylover in the post I was responding to. However, I replied as if he had, and he answered back as if he did.. so.. We both were on the same page. I read what he meant, and he confirmed what he meant.

B) Again, like I explained to bunnylover, I wasn't setting up multiple lynches. The first few days had generated a few leads, and I was following up on them. Having multiple suspects is not a scum-tell.

C) I wouldn't say that I've made a case on anyone. I've stated what I didn't like.

D) Not understanding this response. This is the case that bunnylover overlooked when choosing to respond to me. It's very similar to my post that he did reply to.

Cases like that are grossly over exaggerating, and it's hard for me to believe that KK was actually serious when posting it. And yet, he's been tunneling for the majority of the game on Bunny, without many mentions of anyone one else except for "oh I like XXXX's scum read of YYYY".

You're attacking style, not substance.

His reaction when I commented on his Magua interaction was scummy as well. Town reaction at that point would be to ask what interaction I was talking about/clarify what I meant, his scumreaction was to simply tell me that there was nothing there.

Thinking about it, I strongly disagree with your philosophy. The scum reaction would be to ask for clarification because there would be fear about what might have accidentally slippled. I reacted the way I did because I know I have nothing in my role PM to actually worry about slipping. Whatever you didn't like

is

nothing because there's nothing it could be.

[camn]

Hi guys. Hi GoofBall!

I will read now.
A couple of caveats:
1- I have this weekend off.. but recently I have been spending EVERY WAKING MOMENT working and studying.... that should change Wednesday.. which is why I replaced in But I dont know what my schedule will be like next month...
2 - I dont work at a computer. I read during the day via IPOD usually.. Thus my post-patterns are different than some. But you can count on me to follow the game
3 - It has been a long time since I was in a Large. They scare me.

I go read now.

[curiouskarmadog]

upating post coming in the next 24 hours...just spent an hour updating one game...have no time to do this one right now.