Are you projecting opinions onto him and then calling that scummy? Feels like you're projecting opinions.
@Dave - It was a joke, if you'd been reading the AP/Thor stuff it would make sense. Basically I'm voting you off gut. I'll admit I have no real case, I could go and grab out a couple of comments you said and then say I 'feel' they're scummy - but you couldn't debate me about them in a functional way at this stage. Move on.
Most overtly anti town thing I've seen all game.
Does it get you off to act like an asshole?
I can't understand why you wouldnt want to see mms input on dave
Most overtly anti town thing I've seen all game.
Does it get you off to act like an asshole?
I can't understand why you wouldnt want to see mms input on dave
I am asking Dave to answer my questions, you don't see the problem with other people answering them before Dave could? I certainly do.
Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
the whole game is dumb and we don't know why we're good at it and nobody knows what is going on and we're all going to have to accept that
Are you not calling him scummy then?
I'll withdraw my point if you were just strutting.
actually this is what i am saying
god, it's almost like Dave is too scummy to be scum.
when I exclude that first post, the rest of his posts look genuine town. Even the act of looking at the wiki for advice looks genuine. My biggest hang up is the fact he didn't say he wasn't scum and the fact that he admits the info was un-reliable but he used it anyway.
In the end he just looks like bad town because all of his other posts seem genuinely town motivated.
Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
the whole game is dumb and we don't know why we're good at it and nobody knows what is going on and we're all going to have to accept that
Just now Cyber wrote:I never said that I didn't want him to draw attention to himself.
I never said that you explicitly stated you didn't want him to draw attention to himself, but you sure inferred it.
In post 82, Cybertronix wrote:I asked him the question because even if I did think he was town, his fluff posts draw attention to him.
Let me ask you again, why don't you want him to draw attention to himself? It seems to me that this is what you are saying in p82.
If he's town, then he's not helping us.
His fluff posts during the beginning of a game are a common behavior in all his games and draw unnecessary attention on him regardless of alignment. If he's town he might get himself mislynched because of it, and that's what I don't like.
In post 331, Thor665 wrote:Is using unreliable info in RVS really a tell?
Never said it was a tell but it's a little scummy. If he has voted someone else besides MM it probably wouldn't have stuck out bu having seen scum recently try to justify a vote on a rvs wagon it's fresher in my mind.
Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
the whole game is dumb and we don't know why we're good at it and nobody knows what is going on and we're all going to have to accept that
@AP - just because you fail to see the point doesn't mean there isn't a point.
@Jake - how do you deal with wifom concepts with that definition? (also, town lurk all the time...though I'll agree maybe that's not reasonable of them)
Are you saying a reasonable townie *would* use a case in RVS that he knew was weak?
give me an example of what you mean by wifom concepts.
I personally don't think a reasonable townie would do that which is why I was bothered by Dave doing it, but his posts after that show genuine intent in trying to find scum. His motivation seems to be in the right place.
Since you mention town lurking,
lurking is a HUGE tell for me. If I was more into this game I would probably be analyzing the low posters and trying to figure out which one of them were more likely scummy. It's the apathy this site has towards lurking that allows scum to get away with it, but my mind is elsewhere right now so i don't have the time to do it.
If you see a player lurking you should automatically be suspicious of that slot. If you see an experienced player lurking I would lynch the bitch without hesitation.
Even if a townie is a PR, there is no excuse for lurking and I would even walk that tight rope and say it borders on not playing to your wincon because you aren't in here trying to find scum.
Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
the whole game is dumb and we don't know why we're good at it and nobody knows what is going on and we're all going to have to accept that
In post 337, AngryPidgeon wrote:Thor engaging in pointless side-arguments is scummy AND a scumtell. Thor/Kthx/Dave. Woooo
@AP: Do you know the precise number of scum in this game? Do you know how many scum teams? I am about to re-read all 15 pages, but I don't recall seeing that information anywhere. If I've missed it, would be glad for the link.
@Thor: I'm almost happier to vote for a lurker than for another scum tell. Scum tells can often be explained in more than one way, but voting lurkers is hitting either useless town or lurking scum - win:win. And if lurkers are voted, they might start contributing and become good towners.
Thor please explain the purpose of this line of questioning. It looks like a waste of space to me. The difference between scumtell and scummy is not a worth while investigation.
Also I still want to lynch Dave. He's jumping on this lurker thing out of no where..with no specifics just general info about the virtues of lynching lurkers.
In post 345, kushm4sta wrote:Thor please explain the purpose of this line of questioning. It looks like a waste of space to me. The difference between scumtell and scummy is not a worth while investigation.
You're saying you fully understood how Jake thinks when he says something that is scummy is not a scumtell?
I didn't.
In post 345, kushm4sta wrote:Thor please explain the purpose of this line of questioning. It looks like a waste of space to me. The difference between scumtell and scummy is not a worth while investigation.
You're saying you fully understood how Jake thinks when he says something that is scummy is not a scumtell?
I didn't.
Here's the real question:
@Jake why did you find the MM rvs stuff scummy? The only reason you gave was that it was fresh in your mind that a scum did it. You don't seem dumb enough to think something is scummy just because you remember a scum doing it last game.
