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[Robbnva]

Well I've found my scum team so y'all can go ahead and throw insults or whatever.

[BBmolla]

Actual scumhunting is looking for motivation. You are not doing that second thing.

theres the words I was looking for

[Robbnva]

Or at least 2/3rds

[Robbnva]

This discussion stopped making sense on the last page.
An absolute is being pinged by someone who is not telling the truth and call it scum because town has no reason to lie. Actual scumhunting is looking for motivation. You are not doing that second thing.
Assume Molla was idd mistaken as he claimed, what else makes him scum?

Humor me

What's the town motivation to do something and falsely accuse somebody else of
Doing it and when called on it gets belligerent.

sorry "I was mistaken" can't be taken at face value as truthful because it the belligerent part

[House]

This discussion stopped making sense on the last page.
An absolute is being pinged by someone who is not telling the truth and call it scum because town has no reason to lie. Actual scumhunting is looking for motivation. You are not doing that second thing.
Assume Molla was idd mistaken as he claimed, what else makes him scum?

Humor me

What's the town motivation to do something and falsely accuse somebody else of
Doing it and when called on it gets belligerent.

sorry "I was mistaken" can't be taken at face value as truthful because it the belligerent part

Anybody that knows me can verify that stupidity triggers belligerence.

There are plenty in this game alone that can confirm that so you have gained nothing.

[House]

Hello dude, even YOU know it from our past game so that post is disingenuous as all hell.

[House]

Robb:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=60382

Refer to 643.

Keep reposting your bullshit excuse and I'll keep quoting the facts.

Tell everyone here what my alignment was in our exchange in that game.

Then you can eat that garbage assertion you made about me.

[Robbnva]

You refused to answer my questions

That's different than what molla is doing here.

Like completely different.

You can't present me an orange and try to convince me it's an apple

[Vedith]

Prodge - weekend stuff

[House]

You refused to answer my questions

Correction: I gave up wasting energy trying to convince scum they're wrong.

[BlankFace]

Prod received, just got in from work. Gimmie a bit to sort through some RL stuff.

[Hoopla]

ok, i have RETURNED

i've done a quick read over the pages i've missed and the main concern i have is about the lack of serious wagons that have been generated. a lot of people are posting noise and are not attempting to further the game through their votes, which is bad given we've already used 30% of day 1's allotted time. the most important things that happen on day 1 post-claim, and we NEED time to analyse that/potentially switch and create a counterwagon or whatever else. so start voting people who are realistic wagons.

on this topic, i'm not sure what to think of elyse. initially i had her as quite town before bbmolla decided to conftown himself, and though i still find her zeal for that vote OK and not suspicious, it is concerning that she talks about willing to compromise and search for new targets yet has done nothing in the last 8 pages and STILL hasn't unvoted bbmolla despite acknowledging he isn't going to happen today.

i'm liking the composition of the vedith wagon: bbmolla, cmitc1 and house make for a fairly town trio, so i am going to jump on board given i don't have a town read on vedith.

VOTE: vedith

more to come...

[Hoopla]

random aside while i read some more:

rob seems really fixated on scumtelling anyone for people potentially hypocritical/illogical. you should try looking for more meaningful things related to alignment.

[Robbnva]

Sorry hoopla. Molla and house are scum

Pick one or the other

[Robbnva]

random aside while i read some more:

rob seems really fixated on scumtelling anyone for people potentially hypocritical/illogical. you should try looking for more meaningful things related to alignment.

Falsely accusing somebody of something that was obvious he didn't do is suspicious
Doing the exact thing he was accusing the other person of doing means he's scum

I'm in a bad fucking mood right now cause of house and especially molla so don't mess with me.

Vote one or the other

[BBmolla]

[Hoopla]

house and molla aren't realistic lynch chances today. move on and vote someone else instead of being dead weight.

[BBmolla]

happy birthday

[Robbnva]

house and molla aren't realistic lynch chances today. move on and vote someone else instead of being dead weight.

Oh I'll be dead weight alright but not in a good way

Please vote one of these 2

I'm serious here

I'd prefer molla first since he's the one who got caught. House could just be trolling.

vote: molla

[Hoopla]

oh ok, you're one of those people.

[Robbnva]

I really hate when long time users of this site refuse to vote other long term users of the site for what is obviously outside influences which is technically against the rules.

Just cause house and molla have been here a long time and you are probably chummy with them or have been at some point doesn't change the fact that what molla did can in no way be looked at as a town act. It can't even be looked at as a null act.

It was a delibarate and calculated deception.

If your going to play the game and play it fair I will too. But if this refusal to vote him when you can't give a single good reason as to why he's town (because there isn't one) you are guilty of the outside influence rule

[BBmolla]

You're exceedingly deluded.

[Robbnva]

oh ok, you're one of those people.

If by "one of you people" you mean someone who takes the game super serious. Yes
If you man people who get upset that people ignore blatant scum? Yes again
If you mean someone who gets mad that outside influences are obviously at play here? Than yes

If you mean somebody who is so pissed off he'll do something stupid? Yes

If you mean somebody who thinks there is a chance molla is actually town? No that's not me because he isn't. He's scum confirmed

[Hoopla]

I really hate when long time users of this site refuse to vote other long term users of the site for what is obviously outside influences which is technically against the rules.

Just cause house and molla have been here a long time and you are probably chummy with them or have been at some point doesn't change the fact that what molla did can in no way be looked at as a town act. It can't even be looked at as a null act.

It was a delibarate and calculated deception.

i was on his wagon to begin with and promoting it along with elyse. i think he is town now based on the belief i think he is simply unable to (or wouldn't feel compelled to) melt down and resort to such defensive emotional appeals as scum. that is where i gained my read of him as town. the accusation that i'm treating him differently because he's a long-term user is laughable and shows you only see what you what you want to see.

we have different opinions about what is scummy and what looks town, that is natural and part of the game. but compromise is also part of the game when your target isn't a realistic chance and we have limited time. it's clear to me the window of time has closed for bbmolla's lynch d1, so you can chill on his wagon by yourself and essentially be a voteless player today or you can influence the game elsewhere. up to you.

[House]

Lulz.