Mini Normal 2016 | Otters vs. Penguins | Endgame

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 1.07

Performer

(3): Nosferatu, Tchill13, Gustavo

Gustavo

(3): Lefty, teacher, BlueBloodedToffee

Invisibility

(3): Garmr, Performer, ByronVilla

teacher

(2): wavemode, Gosrir Elmer Odels

Tchill13

(1): Tommy Egan

Gosrir Elmer Odels

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-06-25 14:45:00)

Mod Notes:

• Performer V/LA on weekends
• teacher V/LA on weekends

[Gustavo]

Lefty “looking” for people taking the easy shots meanwhile that’s exactly what he’s guilty of

[Tchill13]

It’s like your ignoring importance of interaction tells in favor of pointing out how you’re at least appearing to scum hunt. Scum gotta make pushes too and lynching scummy townies is the fast track to victory.

I’m a lot more interested in looking for who is taking the easy shots than lynching players that could just be scummy looking Town. Maybe that clashes with the meta on MS but I’m pretty against lynching townies because they’re liabilities. Lynching Town doesn’t advance my wincon.

last few sentences are flat out long. Town that are liabilities help scum out MORE

MORE than there extra abilities. They create confusion, give scum a vote to bank on in lylo, do not participate in lynching scum or helping lynch scum...

You want me to tell you the most efficient way to play mafia (imo obviously) days 1 and 2 are fore getting rid of scum/liabilities (emphasis on the possible liabilities) then after 4 flips you have more than enough info to lynch scum.

Get rid of the liabilities as early and as often as possible. Scum will never kill them, there's a reason. Which leads me to my next point.

Invis/byron should not get to lylo. Either is a fine lynch today if we can't settle on a better scum candidate. THAT being said i don't believer they're just town liabilities, there's a decent chance one is actually scum.

[Gustavo]

Performer should never make it past day 1. If he’s town he’s already proven he’s a liability

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Let's do this then

VOTE: Invis

[Tchill13]

That wasn't really helpful;

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Think I summed that post up pretty well?

I don’t think you are in any position to criticize somebody’s reasons when you have outright refused to give reasons yourself.

refusing to gibe reasons is one thing. Actually giving terrible reasons is another.

[Gustavo]

Unfortunately until performer is lynched I’ll probably be a liability. Death tunneling is extremely antitown

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Gus, can you explain your push on Performer please?

[Gustavo]

That wasn't really helpful;

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Think I summed that post up pretty well?

I don’t think you are in any position to criticize somebody’s reasons when you have outright refused to give reasons yourself.

refusing to gibe reasons is one thing. Actually giving terrible reasons is another.

I’d rather have shifty reasons than none at all. At least you can evaluate the shifty ones and determine they are shitty. You can’t evaluate something that isn’t given.

[Invisibility]

Unfortunately until performer is lynched I’ll probably be a liability. Death tunneling is extremely antitown

can you not be like this?

[Gustavo]

Gus, can you explain your push on Performer please?

Sure. I’ll show you mine after you show me yours. After all I did ask first

[Tchill13]

BBT how many town do you think is in (Byron/invis/lefty)?

how many scum do you think is in (Nosferatu/Teacher/performer/tommy egan)

just numbers are fine.

[Gustavo]

Unfortunately until performer is lynched I’ll probably be a liability. Death tunneling is extremely antitown

can you not be like this?

I’ll death tunnel quietly if that makes it better.

[Tchill13]

That wasn't really helpful;

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Think I summed that post up pretty well?

I don’t think you are in any position to criticize somebody’s reasons when you have outright refused to give reasons yourself.

refusing to gibe reasons is one thing. Actually giving terrible reasons is another.

I’d rather have shifty reasons than none at all. At least you can evaluate the shifty ones and determine they are shitty. You can’t evaluate something that isn’t given.

scum also can't adjust their play if they don't know why they're being read a particular way.

[Tchill13]

BBT how many town do you think is in (Byron/invis/lefty)?

how many scum do you think is in (Nosferatu/Teacher/performer/tommy egan)

just numbers are fine.

ACTUALLY anybody is more than welcome to answer this.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Haha, well played Gus.

TChill - 1 and probably 1 (possibly 2 but not enough info)

[Gustavo]

scum also can't adjust their play if they don't know why they're being read a particular way.

But if you’re paying attention it’s easy to spot those changes.

[Tchill13]

no way there's less than 2 town there. thats way too easy BBT. They could easily all be town.

[Lefty]

Lefty “looking” for people taking the easy shots meanwhile that’s exactly what he’s guilty of

Playing the victim now?
How is pushing completely against the grain taking an easy shot?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What's way too easy? Do you hold all players to a high standard when it comes to playing as scum?

I really dislike that - it's almost like 'too scummy to be scum'. Sometimes, games are just that easy and everything gets over thought clouding out the simple conclusions.

[Tchill13]

scum also can't adjust their play if they don't know why they're being read a particular way.

But if you’re paying attention it’s easy to spot those changes.

good point. I dont agree with your overall idea but still a good point.

tell me how town benefits from you death tunneling performer? because i actually agree with your "push" of performer. Problem is you know how pointless d1s are. You should also know why a death tunnel d1 is hysterical especially when you have a chance to begin to sort a new player list.

[Gustavo]

Lefty “looking” for people taking the easy shots meanwhile that’s exactly what he’s guilty of

Playing the victim now?
How is pushing completely against the grain taking an easy shot?

I’m not playing the victim. I’m calling it as I see it. You aren’t pushing against the grain. Others have indicated they scum read me or don’t town read me. That’s going with the grain sir.

You implied I called somebody scum when I didn’t and you said you scum read me for something town could do.

That’s taking easy shots.

[Tchill13]

What's way too easy? Do you hold all players to a high standard when it comes to playing as scum?

I really dislike that - it's almost like 'too scummy to be scum'. Sometimes, games are just that easy and everything gets over thought clouding out the simple conclusions.

not necessarily a high standard but i dont see scum motivations from 2 of those guys.

i genuinely feel that lefty is town. Byron would be my lynch in that list if i HAD to pick. Invis hasn't pegged my "decent chance he's scum" button yet.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I also think Lefty is town - but could easily see Byron and Invis as scum.

[Tchill13]

BBT, Lefty

lean town on invis

Gosrir, Gus, Tommy Egan, Wave

lean scum on byron, Nosferatu, Performer, Teacher