Miccro 821: Welcome Micc Mafia! (D1)

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.6

2 718281828459

(2): PenguinPower 176, horrordude0215 206

PenguinPower

(2): Rob14 281, bill1148 290

Rob14

(1): 2 718281828459 170

Not Voting

(2): UC Voyager, Alonzo 177

Day 1 will end September 4/18 at 10am (in (expired on 2018-09-04 10:00:00)) or when a majority is reached.
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

I DID IT!!!

[PenguinPower]

Damn.

[horrordude0215]

of you Ari. <3

[horrordude0215]

Proud of you Ari. <3

Dammit.

[bill1148]

Alonzo, who is

the

scummiest player, in your opinion?

[PenguinPower]

I'll bite.

vote Penguin

You vote a townread with a scumread and all you say is "I'll bite"?

Explain.

I'm not asking just for the sake of asking. Explain.

[UC Voyager]

oh i see. that is my bad...i feel rather dumb right now. well then

as penguin said

Bill. pls explain

[Aristophanes]

As noted, I will be V/LA fir a few days because of TorontoMeet! I believe schadd_ is popping by too which means we'll both be busy-ish.

We will check in as often as we can though! Might be slower on VCs and answers tho. Thought you'd like a heads up!

[Alonzo]

Alonzo, who is

the

scummiest player, in your opinion?

A good and Valid question that I dont have a strightforward answer too just now, but il think about it.

[UC Voyager]

Alonzo. If you dont have a solid scan read, what do you think about Bill right now. Scummy? Not? What reads are you getting from him

[UC Voyager]

VOTE: Bill
Until he answer me and Penguins question and does more stuff that is town.

[UC Voyager]

VOTE: Bill
Until he answer me and Penguins question and does more stuff that is Towny and is helpful.

[horrordude0215]

We're at 3 days to deadline with no real consensus among town. We should get on that.

I'm okay with a 2.71 or Rob lynch at this point. Could be talked into bill as well given recent posts, but probably won't be voting outside of those 3 today.

[bill1148]

I voted for Penguin because I wanted to see where the direction of the discussion went. To openly present another wagon as another option. "I'll bite" = take the bait...I am surprised no one took the hint?

Also, because two scums are more likely than one apparently, I have had to re-evaluate players based on that. Inferno's post are trash regardless. Rob's read post, I actually agreed with like 80% of it. I just primarily disagreed with the conclusions. I don't agree with 2.718 being a nooby town, since it seems like he notices some minute details, but still drops an occasional "just not paying attention" post. I also (mostly) disagree with the conclusion that Penguin is scum from a lack of concrete views. While I had a similar opinion earlier in the game, I also think it requires ignoring other pro-town stuff. Mafmen/UC is meh. Alonzo has actively lurked and waffles around lot. Worth noting Penguin/horror have almost entirely ignored each other, but if both scums are that active at scum hunting compared to the rest of town then we deserve to lose anyway.

I'd still lean towards 2.718 and Rob being the two scums. If only one of them is, I'd look at Alonzo next. Just to be sure though, could I have a link to closed 7 player micro setups? I have searched through at least a dozen and haven't been able to find any.

[bill1148]

Since only 3 days left

unvote

Vote 2.718

So we have enough time to consider the claim.

Thank god this day phase is almost almost over so we can get some night actions in, I forgot how much days can drag.

[Alonzo]

Alonzo has actively lurked and waffles around lot.

Its my Town meta!!

I havn't been bang on with reads but I'v pointed things out and tried to be helpful as much as I can.

[horrordude0215]

Worth noting Penguin/horror have almost entirely ignored each other, but if both scums are that active at scum hunting compared to the rest of town then we deserve to lose anyway.

This is just wrong though? I feel like I've been rather vocal about my read on Penguin with Rob's push. I haven't been directly interacting with him as much because I'm not scumreading him right now and I feel like we have some pretty similar views on the game.

Just to be sure though, could I have a link to closed 7 player micro setups? I have searched through at least a dozen and haven't been able to find any.

7P setups in general seem to be really rare. I looked through some of the old signup threads and found only found 2 that weren't completely open.

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=68964 - Micro 657, also run by Ari. Used Semi-Open setup, ended up with 4 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Goon, 1 Scum RB
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=69331 - Micro 663 - Closed Theme. 2 VT, 2 Masons, 1 Cop, 1 Goon, 1 Godfather

[UC Voyager]

ouch. pls dont try to say your following your town meta. IN FACT, dont even bring up meta in this game. it is notoriously bad and ineffective.
Bill, i can kind of see where your coming from but i mean. its the worst attempt to bait int the history of baiting. I dont know how you thought that work unless you were jsut going to try to get a town tell.

[UC Voyager]

Since only 3 days left

unvote

Vote 2.718

So we have enough time to consider the claim.

Thank god this day phase is almost almost over so we can get some night actions in, I forgot how much days can drag.

3 days isnt a reason to rush! we shoudlnt take our time, but we should not be trying to rush a lynch when there is still more than enough time to keep hunting. If we are still sitting where we are tomorrow, then possibly, but i think that wont be the case

[bill1148]

ouch. pls dont try to say your following your town meta. IN FACT, dont even bring up meta in this game. it is notoriously bad and ineffective.
Bill, i can kind of see where your coming from but i mean. its the worst attempt to bait int the history of baiting. I dont know how you thought that work unless you were jsut going to try to get a town tell.

Huh? What are you talking about?

[bill1148]

3 days left, which just happens to coincide with the weekend, which also just happens to be when this game was at it's slowest. Also, each player is only required to only post once.

So no.

[UC Voyager]

Guys

Bill has claimed replacing out is AI, given reads with little to no reason behind them, tried the shittiest bait ever, then turns around after barely town hunting and scum hunting at all since i got into game and places a vote on someone easier to lynch purely because there is three days left.

I think we should look into Bill some more.

[UC Voyager]

ouch. pls dont try to say your following your town meta. IN FACT, dont even bring up meta in this game. it is notoriously bad and ineffective.
Bill, i can kind of see where your coming from but i mean. its the worst attempt to bait int the history of baiting. I dont know how you thought that work unless you were jsut going to try to get a town tell.

Huh? What are you talking about?

i was telling alonzo to not bring up emta

and said i kind of understood what you were trying to do with the baiting idea, but it was really shitty.

[horrordude0215]

Since only 3 days left

unvote

Vote 2.718

So we have enough time to consider the claim.

Thank god this day phase is almost almost over so we can get some night actions in, I forgot how much days can drag.

3 days isnt a reason to rush! we shoudlnt take our time, but we should not be trying to rush a lynch when there is still more than enough time to keep hunting. If we are still sitting where we are tomorrow, then possibly, but i think that wont be the case

3 days isn't a reason to rush assuming you're in a decently active game, but we're getting ready to go into a holiday weekend where productivity will probably be pretty low. Someone would have to declare intent to hammer e, they would have to claim, and then we have to discuss how to respond to the claim/potentially change the wagon if necessary.

Even if we don't have to rush right now, we can't be apathetic and we need to push

someone

as a group.

[bill1148]

I don't think you understood exactly what I was "trying to do," and bring up meta for day 1 isn't

completely

terrible as you're implying.