Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

chennisden · Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:24 am

VOTE: alch

chennisden · Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:24 am

Yeah alch is scum, we're wasting time, can we end this

Creature · Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:38 am

In post 3227, Titus wrote:Alch changed PT Cop to traffic analyst (detects PTs in use only) and claims guilty on Drew.

Wait

How tf that translates to a guilty?

Gamma's PT thing is permanent

Creature · Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:38 am

unless it only counts PTs Drew posted that night?

Titus · Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:40 am

In post 3252, Creature wrote:
In post 3227, Titus wrote:Alch changed PT Cop to traffic analyst (detects PTs in use only) and claims guilty on Drew.
Wait

How tf that translates to a guilty?

Gamma's PT thing is permanent

Gamma was removed when he died supposedly.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:46 am

I no longer have access to Gamma's hood.

Titus · Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:47 am

In post 3255, Doctor Drew wrote:I no longer have access to Gamma's hood.

This is consistent as the mason PT was locked on Pisskop's death.

Titus · Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:52 am

My problem with Alchemist's claim is our early talk

Alch: I have a guilty on Drew.
Me: Wasn't Drew neighborized?
Alch: Oh yeah I forgot. *asks mod if vanillaized people retain PTs*
Mod: They do.
Alch: Would a traffic analyst get a guilty.
Mod: Yup.
Alch: Dumb me. I'm a traffic analyst which is real similar but I done goofed.

(Tone might be different. I paraphrased.)

gobbledygook · Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:06 am

I agree generally about the setup spec. But, I definitely think there is something to be said about the two neighborizers and the traffic analyst.

Blatant Scum · Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:12 am

My current theory is that mafia is aware of mason existence, they were given PT cop and town were given neighbordizers to weaken it.

chennisden · Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:33 pm

Actually a kink in my theory is Alch should've known Drew had a hood

His play doesn't seem to suggest that

Doctor Drew · Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:41 pm

In post 3259, Blatant Scum wrote:My current theory is that mafia is aware of mason existence, they were given PT cop and town were given neighbordizers to weaken it.

So you actually think Creature is town?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:57 pm

In post 3260, chennisden wrote:Actually a kink in my theory is Alch should've known Drew had a hood

His play doesn't seem to suggest that

Should've.

Didn't.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:01 pm

Frankly that should show I'm Town. If I were scum who planned to fake a PT Cop guilty on Drew I would have had a whole team to remind me he already has a PT from Gamma and stop me.

chennisden · Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:40 pm

UNVOTE:

Lavender · Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:10 pm

The more this game continues the more I realize how this role is so wasted on me.
But this is very interesting, I wonder what will happen~

JJ here is the invisible me
Drew, that long read list was funny

Now I uh, keep being unhelpful

Alchemist21 · Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:21 pm

In post 3265, Lavender wrote:The more this game continues the more I realize how this role is so wasted on me.
But this is very interesting, I wonder what will happen~

JJ here is the invisible me
Drew, that long read list was funny

Now I uh, keep being unhelpful

Does the game have you stumped?

+1

Doctor Drew · Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:30 pm

Lol, and that terrible joke makes you 200% scum.

Also, in what world would a claimed town PT cop, the most dangerous PR to scum that would be left in the game, be left alive or not vanilla-ized.

Someone please explain to me like I am five years old how scum would allow that to happen.

Titus · Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:35 pm

In post 3259, Blatant Scum wrote:My current theory is that mafia is aware of mason existence, they were given PT cop and town were given neighbordizers to weaken it.

That is my theory but for the scum knew about the masons part. Neighborizers would weaken the PT Cop/Traffic Analyst.

However, Creature could still be scum as the neighborizer would allow scum to make their own guilties too.

I'm not 100% sure on the theory but I favor it. I know I'm never lynching you or yurkin.

I am pretty sure Chennisden and Creature are on different sides.

Alch Creature makes sense as a scumteam because Creature's play. Creature repeatedly insisted scum in the investigated but mostly has whiteknighted Alch.

Gobble's play today on the guilty has been incoherent so I lean scum, but I don't want to lynch there anymore upon reflection. Gobble said he'd never believe the guilty based on his PoE but immediately voted Drew after the guilty. All the reads based conversations have been thrown out. Blow in his ear, his mind changes. He's also tried to put Yurkin back in the PoE.

Yoda's straight up been useless. So I'm ok with a lynch here.

If Alch is both town, then scum deliberately withheld the vanillaizer to force Drew to look town.

Titus · Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:36 pm

In post 3265, Lavender wrote:The more this game continues the more I realize how this role is so wasted on me.
But this is very interesting, I wonder what will happen~

JJ here is the invisible me
Drew, that long read list was funny

Now I uh, keep being unhelpful

Lavender, you can help by tone reading JJH, Creature and Chennisden for me.

Titus · Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:39 pm

In post 3267, Doctor Drew wrote:Lol, and that terrible joke makes you 200% scum.

Also, in what world would a claimed town PT cop, the most dangerous PR to scum that would be left in the game, be left alive or not vanilla-ized.

Someone please explain to me like I am five years old how scum would allow that to happen.

Well Yurkin and BS are locktown. Most likely all the vanillaizer targets are.

If scum felt they could win today, then "vanillaizing" you makes sense. You would appear to be town.

Doctor Drew · Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:41 pm

I meant more leaving the PT cop to just roam free all game, even though town PT cop would be their biggest threat.

Titus · Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:41 pm

If my analysis is correct, one of JJH, Yoda, and Gobble can be town.

If Drew is scum, Creature or Chennisden likely is. Alch goes to locktown. We'd still have 2 scum in JJH/Yoda/Gobble.

Titus · Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:44 pm

In post 3271, Doctor Drew wrote:I meant more leaving the PT cop to just roam free all game, even though town PT cop would be their biggest threat.

Right because they'd run into too many clears problem.

That is unless they had neighborizers and deliberately didn't claim.

Can you give me your thoughts on JJH, Yoda, and Gobble? 2 of them should be scum no matter your alignment.

Titus · Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:46 pm

In post 3271, Doctor Drew wrote:I meant more leaving the PT cop to just roam free all game, even though town PT cop would be their biggest threat.

In Alchemist's defense, scum vanillaized the known role n1, the doctor n2, and went for the win n3 in a scum!Drew world.

I just don't buy scum!Drew letting me live here. He'd be better off with the same night actions and Egix dead.