LOST (Game Over)

[Bell]

Was this also claimed? I'm losing track of neighborhoods

Not by me. I sat on it. Klick has been my sekkrit scumread.

~Titus

Unironically are you pocketing me?

No. I'm too tired to pocket. I'd be chilling back but no one's organizing anything but a popularity contest.

~Titus

This isn’t a pitch fork thing Titus.
I always say I’m going to kill the lurkers for pressure and often times I mean it.
But I’ll still go for other stuff. I’m neutral on MB with a slight suspicion underneath.
But that’s my default.

[Bell]

VOTE: Klick

*double shrug*

[MathBlade]

Yooo RCE.

I had a scum read on your slot for a long time but then The toad, well, he started to win me over. He will be missed, but now you're here, so that's fun!

Well that’s a good trajectory because I’m basically confirmed!

?? How are you confirmed ??

The toad was inactive the entire time I am here.

Can you explain?

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: Klick

*double shrug*

Nooooo my towncore

[Bell]

They aren’t going to elaborate.
I plan to push them very hard if they don’t actually have a role that’s confirmable in the next 2-3 day phases.

[Frogsterking]

My poor towncore

[Off The Hook]

@mathblade

since you’re here I’d like to direct your attention towards 3368 as well

~GE

[MathBlade]

Umm I’m 4 pages deep and lukewarm is scum but no one cares?

I think Lukewarm is a tomorrow elim if ever.

I don’t think I have seen a Liekwarm scum game

Admittedly Luke is being weird and illogical on some things but that screams more paranoia than scum

I waffle on that though. Do you have reasoning?

[Off The Hook]

Oh, MB is doing mastina-style catchup *sigh*

~GE

[MathBlade]

@pookie, bella, RAD, JF, dwlee, math

: do you have any slots in particular you'd like me to look at?

~GE

btw I scoured Math's ISO to see if he had a read on us, and I didn't see one but I do kinda feel like he's leaning town for me after it. So that's one slots I've already managed to look over.

I would rather catch up first. Yeah I know non answer. I will always take opinions on Titus because reading her is hard. I mainly am trying to investigate and figure out the bastard part of the game because I work better with facts and being Day One there aren’t any.

I have a theory that I think might work but probably no one will like but I was hoping C&G would comment first before sharing.

[MathBlade]

...(that's a little condescending )

Also, people are really a lot more aware of their reads status than I am, generally? That's you, Luke and bbt that's bought it up.

Shit was I coming across as condescending? Sorry that wasn't my intent at all!

I'm very aware of the reads that came from pooky's collection and I think the heavy town reads absolutely need to be the focus of scum here. Any possible slip up of heavy town reads should be immediately pounced on by scum if town doesn't do it for them. Not saying it necessarily makes players who pounce scum, but it needs to happen one way or the other. So I'm definitely interested in focusing on people who may opportunistically jump at me for my DP read and the fact that you could but didn't screams townie to me.

?? Has Pooky delivered a recent sheet? And why would scum instantly focus on the townreads? This seems like weird coaching. I don’t like this interaction. It seems more strategery versus what is.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Rad

How confident do you feel in this read?

Not a whole lot but it’s the most confident I got.

[MathBlade]

Rad, are you suggesting widely town read people should be able to do whatever they want without being questioned otherwise it's scum trying to undermine town reads?

Because it sounds like that's what you're saying.

No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.

Do you disagree?

I disagree with this. Just because someone is read as town doesn’t make them dangerous. They have to be dangerous and correct. Town miselimming town and then being miselimmed is way more dangerous than a universally townread player who has correct reads. I again don’t like this abstract ness. What’s going on in this game?

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: Rad

How confident do you feel in this read?

Not a whole lot but it’s the most confident I got.

Huh who are you?

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: Rad

How confident do you feel in this read?

Not a whole lot but it’s the most confident I got.

Huh who are you?

I’m like you.
But better.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hot damn I'm convinced

[ProfessorDrapion]

Bell v TBone I think is TvT

Yo can you elaborate on this?

[MathBlade]

I dunno, like...pooky was pretty heavily town read, including by me early game, and now I too am just not feeling it - but that could be scummy, according to you?

P-edit I feel like you kinda just answered this.

Pooky is still a really hard tr for me. Like him moving me from yellow to green but not actually saying anything about it. Why does scum!Pooky squander an opportune chance at hard pocketing me?

I don’t follow. Wouldn’t yellow to green without interaction be a pocket?

[MathBlade]

Umm I’m 4 pages deep and lukewarm is scum but no one cares?

What seriously? What are you even basing this on?

I’m basing it off of the first 4 pages. What a silly question.

I’m obviously asking for a more specific answer.

I think the way flavor was approached by multiple other slots (Bell, BBT for example) Felt organic. The way Luke approached it felt more like a tool, ergo not organic. It might be overzealousness of knowing the flavor and wanting to talk about it but if that’s the case my read probably falls off further into the thread.

If I had to strip everything away I’d say it’s like, other slots were engaging in a conversation that Luke felt they needed to be inserted into.

Even at the time they are getting townreada for it so idk maybe I’m crazy.

donu think luke is scum?

I think he had a scummy opening and got chain townread for it. Which is weird.

I’m not calling anyone here a sheep but I’m no Welshman.

I really hope you’d expand more. I haven’t hard time to read the beginning of the game yet but rapid fire constant reads do match my VCA.

[Frogsterking]

Bell v TBone I think is TvT

Yo can you elaborate on this?

It looks like they're paranoid of each other and bickering like a pair of star crossed Townies

[ProfessorDrapion]

Spoiler:

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and add Taly to my Roden+Dwlee theory. Roden+Dwlee+Taly gives a nice trio of go-nowhere slots I imagine scum are likely to be sitting in.

I've not found any major problems in Taly's posts so far, not necessarily done anything exciting but feel like they've been inquisitive and keen to engage for the most part. Guess that could be scum trying to appear onside and townie but I'd need to do a fuller ISO there, certainly found them fine so far.

What's giving you the Dwlee+Roden connection? I TR'd Dwlee for their Pooky scumread initially and expected them to gradually work their way into the game but they've contributed little and their most recent posts are really lazy to be honest, adding little of value. Perhaps more viable it's a scum slot coasting by for now, I feel like Dwlee is typically more active than this? Albeit I think I may have only played with them the once.

@

Malcolm

With 5/26 slots scum it seems more likely than usual that scum don't come under much pressure D1 and the conflict is mostly TvT. I think with social loafing etc. most scum are likely chillin. That's why I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly.

I think it's reasonable to expect 1 or 2 scum are more in the heat of things, but I'm not really sure how much I can add to that discussion.

I'm sorry, there's more to it than the activity levels.

None of the players I think are Town are willing to defend those three slots either (so far.)

So I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly due to PoE as well as activity.

my main hangups with mathblade are:

(1) Corwin was a scummy scum fuck when he was playing

(2) Mathblade doesn't feel very enthusiastic and dude is like a dog with a bone when he reps in as town.

(3) when asked for why he townread C+G in the hood, I don't think his reasoning was very compelling or strong and felt more like TMI.

Alright let’s team up!

Rad, MathBlade, who else?
We need roughly 3 more I think.

[T-Bone]

Aaa fuck that's the grenade dropping I was trying to stop.

Far be it for me to jump to conclusions but there's one conclusion I immediately jump to.

I don’t know what conclusions you’re reaching?

That post is so out of context I think it was meant for a PT

[ProfessorDrapion]

Spoiler:

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and add Taly to my Roden+Dwlee theory. Roden+Dwlee+Taly gives a nice trio of go-nowhere slots I imagine scum are likely to be sitting in.

I've not found any major problems in Taly's posts so far, not necessarily done anything exciting but feel like they've been inquisitive and keen to engage for the most part. Guess that could be scum trying to appear onside and townie but I'd need to do a fuller ISO there, certainly found them fine so far.

What's giving you the Dwlee+Roden connection? I TR'd Dwlee for their Pooky scumread initially and expected them to gradually work their way into the game but they've contributed little and their most recent posts are really lazy to be honest, adding little of value. Perhaps more viable it's a scum slot coasting by for now, I feel like Dwlee is typically more active than this? Albeit I think I may have only played with them the once.

@

Malcolm

With 5/26 slots scum it seems more likely than usual that scum don't come under much pressure D1 and the conflict is mostly TvT. I think with social loafing etc. most scum are likely chillin. That's why I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly.

I think it's reasonable to expect 1 or 2 scum are more in the heat of things, but I'm not really sure how much I can add to that discussion.

I'm sorry, there's more to it than the activity levels.

None of the players I think are Town are willing to defend those three slots either (so far.)

So I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly due to PoE as well as activity.

my main hangups with mathblade are:

(1) Corwin was a scummy scum fuck when he was playing

(2) Mathblade doesn't feel very enthusiastic and dude is like a dog with a bone when he reps in as town.

(3) when asked for why he townread C+G in the hood, I don't think his reasoning was very compelling or strong and felt more like TMI.

Alright let’s team up!

Rad, MathBlade, who else?
We need roughly 3 more I think.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yo why did I double post? X.C

[ProfessorDrapion]

Bell v TBone I think is TvT

Yo can you elaborate on this?

It looks like they're paranoid of each other and bickering like a pair of star crossed Townies

So another words, they question each other and you THINK they are town from talking with each other.

Alright well again that’s not really an elaboration, like is there a back to back post specific thing you felt came more likely from 2 towns going at it rather then TvM or MvM.