NY 117: The Vanillaside (Game over)

[MehPlusRawr]

I'm missing my fuzzy obvtown feeling from SpyreX this game. That can't be good.

[RayFrost]

I'd prefer to not risk outing a second PR.

Vezo lynch plz.

Vote: vezo

[Nachomamma8]

Is it just me, or do the reasons people have for switching get shittier and shittier as we build more wagons?

[RayFrost]

Is it just me, or do the reasons people have for switching get shittier and shittier as we build more wagons?

?

I wasn't on sera.

[Nachomamma8]

Wasn't talking about you, darling.

[DemonHybrid]

Is it just me, or do the reasons people have for switching get shittier and shittier as we build more wagons?

I agree...things are getting much more jumbled.

I can't see myself taking my vote off of Vezok at the moment until he replies to my PBPA rebuttal and stops just going along with wagons for the hell of it. He's -really- irking me very very badly.

I'd recommend someone unvotes Sera until he claims, however, just in case someone wants to be a wiseass and go along with the hammer. L-1 situations can be very dangerous.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

I agree when we should stop the bandwagoning all the time in here. The frightening amount of bandwagoning that's going on with this game could potentially out all the PRs if we are not careful here. My bandwagon already forced me to claim my role and I really don't see the case on me.

Also, I'll need to re-read the thread, especially during the Night. I really do not have that many solid conclusions on players yet due to the large amount bandwagoning that's been going on lately and hopefully this should lead me to some decent reads. The person I consider to be the most suspicious will be the person I track.

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Especially this post and this post, to a degree, offer us a lot of nothing while giving his posts quite a lot of volume. However, the interesting part is how he doesn't follow up with ANY of his "ideas". His day-rationing plan went ignored and, unlike Korts, he's not following it up, not bringing it up again, which seems to indicate that he didn't really believe what he was saying.

Regarding my day-rationing plan, I did bring it up a few times between me and RayFrost, so I didn't just completely leave it behind.

However, I am not going to spend the majority of my post (At least for Day 1) saying "Please listen to my day-rationing plan!", when I know that there are more important things to do. Like for example, find scums.

Bolded the important part. There were arguably other players at this point in the game who were putting forth minimal effort, such as Ellie and Nacho, and yet SSBF did not point them out and wagoned onto Vezok.

And I argue otherwise. vezokpiraka at the time has done absolutely nothing productive for the town. Nachomamma8 gave a decent explanation for why he voted for DemonHybrid. Ellibereth gave his town and scum reads, and asking us to stop talking about RVS ending. vezokpiraka did litterally nothing.

This is where he outlines his reasons for keeping his vote on Vezok. His reasoning(or rather lack of it):

Translation: "my initial reason for voting Vezok(his lack of effort) is pretty much disproven. I need a new reason to appear consistent so I will attack his content."

The majority of my reason toward voting vezokpiraka are reasons that people have already said, I'm not going to simply parrot them to make my case look better then they really are.

I want you to read through his posts in ISO if you haven't yet. It reveals a sort of...controlled, careful play. It doesn't read as town to me. This is more gut than anything to be honest but I rely a lot on my gut when I play so this makes sense to me.

So me attacking MehPlusRawr, bringing up the day-rationing idea, and putting forth effort toward refuting points made against me is part of a careful, controlled play?

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And abandoning a wagon because someone said "there's scum on that there wagon!" would be really dumb considering that there is scum on EVERY WAGON EVER.

I see your point here, but not every bandwagon has scums on it. On rare occasions, all scums may avoid the mislynch bandwagon. That will probably gain them all town creds.

Stop switching wagons. You will then blaim me for waggoning.
unvote
Vote seraphim

Congratulation, you just admitted to being a hypocrite.

[RayFrost]

I'd honestly prefer to move back away from sera at the moment.

I sincerely feel that vezok's blatant wagnoing and following the town needs to be dealt with - it's scummy, and he's worthless either way.

So my argument with vezo is 1. already claimed vanilla, so no risk of outing a PR

2. he's bandwagoning shamelessly and without reason while espousing "stop the wagoning" without actually attempting to stop it

3. his level of content borders on negative - his posts are so content-less they actually suck away my memory of previous posts. no joke.

4. people are commenting on how quickly the wagons are being created, but I notice that vezo is one of the mot blatant "lolol support all wagons" people, but there is nothing being done - instead, people are opting to go with sephi first and

if he isn't a PR

lynch vezo. Why risk outing a PR if you feel vezo is scummy enough to warrant a lynch? Slow your roll and lynch for least loss and most gain.

5. Vezo's scum.

[RayFrost]

Seraphim

:

I would like to request that you don't claim for the time being. I feel that the wagon is not appropriate, and I think that your claim is the goal of the more shameless wagoners (aka scum).

[RayFrost]

BTW I can get behind a vezok lynch, but Seraphim's active and I want him to squeal first.

...

Why do you want him to claim and risk outing a

second

PR on d1 when we have quite obv claimed non-PR scum in vezo, again?

[RayFrost]

Seriously SSBF isn't getting lynched without a CC. So, don't him and haw if its the truth and do it. POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

(Double hint if there is a CC and the CC is scum don't, DONT take that vig shot. Its an Ackbarian trap).

As for Vezok:

Just look at those first posts. Look at the after the fact. Then look at the nothing and lo and behold he's there to ask for the CC and give no input.

This post and this post are making me queasy.

SpyX, why did you point out the fact vezo's being absolutely worthless while not voting him and instead just wagon hopping into seraphim?

That doesn't really match my town meta on you, and nor does it match what I thin somebody that was town would do - you point out scum but reasonlessly jump on somebody else.

[SpyreX]

Because I don't feel like fighting that fight right now - Sera isn't a bastion of town I'm going to put on the armor and go to war for.

I'd much, MUCH rather lynch vezo and I still want answers from the jumpers but even moreso I want the game to progress forward.

[RayFrost]

Because I don't feel like fighting that fight right now - Sera isn't a bastion of town I'm going to put on the armor and go to war for.

I'd much, MUCH rather lynch vezo and I still want answers from the jumpers but even moreso I want the game to progress forward.

How about a deal, then?

We lynch vezo right quick so the game progresses and then question the jumpers the day after?

[vezokpiraka]

That is a good idea thinking about it. Because you get the days added to the new deadline.
Although I stil don't want to be lynched.

[Hoopla]

Day 1, Vote Count #9

With fourteen alive, it takes

8

votes to lynch. Deadline is schedueled for 22:00 GMT, August 16th <Countdown>.

Seraphim -

7

(Korts, Jack, Fate, xRECKONERx, SpyreX, vezokpiraka, MehPlusRawr)

vezokpiraka -

3

(Super Smash Bros Fan, DemonHybrid, RayFrost)

Super Smash Bros Fan -

2

(Ellibereth, Seraphim)

DemonHybrid -

1

(Nachomamma8)

Not voting -

1

(Socrates)

[Fate]

That is a good idea thinking about it. Because you get the days added to the new deadline.
Although I stil don't want to be lynched.

Unvote:
Vote: Vezok

Yeah two claims a day is good.

I like RayFrost when he's talkin sense

[Fate]

DH is still scum.
I am a VT so you can go ahead and lynch me.

[RayFrost]

That is a good idea thinking about it. Because you get the days added to the new deadline.
Although I stil don't want to be lynched.

Unvote:
Vote: Vezok

Yeah two claims a day is good.

I like RayFrost when he's talkin sense

:goodposting:

Moar votes on the vezokscum.

[Fate]

Ray if you're deflecting off Seraphim scum I'm gonna be sad.

[RayFrost]

Ray if you're deflecting off Seraphim scum I'm gonna be sad.

Who said that seraphim's town?

I'm saying I'd rather not risk outing a second PR to go for

possible scum

when we have

super obv scum MK2

right in front of us with a vanilla claim.

srsly

[Jack]

vezok reminds me of cjmiller and espeonage.

[MehPlusRawr]

The problem is that Sera is a much nicer lynch than Vezo.

[Jack]

The problem is that Sera is a much nicer lynch than Vezo.

This is not a problem.

[Korts]

The problem with the vezok wagon is that I get the impression that this is pretty much normal play for him. Is this just a policy lynch, or is there more to it?

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote; Vezok