Newbie 1928 - The Climax - Game Over

[Iconeum]

It's like you're hyper aggressive, beyond the point of all rationality, so you just fire things out there almost at random

About everything Fish posted was specifically directed at you, based on what you posted. How is any of that at random?

So you aren't arguing against my analysis, you're simply disregarding it?

You literally made NO analysis. You just posted quotes and call it scum (for objectively bad reasons, but that's ok)

I think voted is town btw

I believe this as well. Time to get those votes off of Voted and elsewhere. I'll be giving my scumread in next post

Is there a reason for lynching me over someone who isn't active?

Don't wanna lynch you, but if you keep tunneling over stuff that is Non-Allignment Indicative (playstyle, etc) you are not helping town.

VOTE: YyottaCat

I would like to request we lynch YyottaCat, who has been inactive for a long time.

Ryno, why are you trying to lynch an inactive player when you have other scumreads? Scumreads you are not pushing at all, not even voting?

VOTE: Redemption

ok

finally read the game properly

casing this asap

Oh curious to see this

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Redemption

[Formerfish]

i had barely read the game.

That's fair. What are you seeing as scum worthy from that slot?

[RadiantCowbells]

i'll do it later.

jsut verified that yyotta cat is being replaced and i'd like to use that time.

i have legit irl reasons to want to relax

[Iconeum]

but r u mafia tho

I'd be stupid to say yes even if I was. So I'm straight up gonna say no.

I am not mafia.

Awkward way of putting things. Especially the reiteration at the end.

There is so many people that I would quote right now so I'll just answer as best as I can to anyone that suspects me. Basically, all I did so far is answering cleverly and honestly to you guys' questions. If you think that's a good lead for town, that's an easy win for mafia.

On the other hand, I got a super good read for you guys. I'm seeing Ryno d1 voting for Fish. Then, later on, Ryno calls out Fish as he already lynched him super early in the game. Then, later again, Fish gets defensive about an unexplained lynch.

I want some input on this, including from Ryno and Fish themselves. But for now, I see one of them as scum, meaning that they must not be from the same alignment.


P.S: I know that you guys suspect me because of my honesty and will probably be even more putting out that much theory so early in the game. Just know that I'm ok with it. I'm ok with the fact that it will put me in danger and cost me the game. All I'm trying to do is make you guys see the position that I'm in so that you can tell what is my "agenda", if you will. But the fact that people already suspects me this early tells me I'm doing wrong. So I might change my gameplan, if I ever make it far in the game. Just give me a chance and try to understand what I'm trying to do. Thank you!

His 'super good read' is literally just setting up 2 players who are fighting to be lynched. 'One of them is scum', this sets up his D2 plan by lynching in one of them, then persuing the other one on D2.
All this while not pushing EITHER of these, and not even VOTING either of these. No actual read in depth about why one of them is scum.

This post has a scum agenda written all over it.

[Iconeum]

Sorry guys, I might be the only one that had two prod, yet I'm still here. Always around one time boys.

What the fuck? Why is there 14 pages now? There was like 6 the other day XD

There is now soooooo much material to go over, fuck me. Missing a day hasn't changed a thing at all.

First I'll adress Iconeum's arrival. The fact that the first thing he said was that my answer to the "are you scum" question was awkward was uncomfortable. I was to say your profile pic was cool, but nooooo (jk it's awesome, keep it up Iconeum ;;; ). In addition, I noticed that Iconeum made the same remarks as I did about Ryno and Fish (feeling driven and overdefensive). Great minds think alike.

Ryno hasn't made any good reasonable reads until the 7th page I believe, I was going to propose to lynch him but now he looks like he's just a like a you-push-me-I-push-you-back-newbie, I'm getting hesitant about him.

Former Fish, idk what is going into you but I didn't like the fact that you got into such a fuss with a new mafia player, I was expecting more from you man.

Btw, can anyone make a connection between ZOL and Voted's plays to see if it's a scum role?


I see Voted that brings up my ZOL lynch, not even mentioning that I did it as an unserious-very-start-of-d1-lynch (yes I like overextended words, shat-ap :p ). Other than that, he is the complete polar opposite of Formerfish: over offensive X) Not like the man in the mirror in any case XD

I don't get why people say I don't post much. Surely compared to Fish and Ryno, I'm well under ig. And the fact that Voted tells me that I haven't posted anything of value so far is insulting because I always make reads since the game started. As you can tell, nothing changes, still thinking about who to lynch though. RC and Iconeum are clear to me.

Yeah, why the fuckkk is there all of a sudden content so we can get reads? Fuck that shit!

I adress the scuminess in your post, and you dismiss it by talking about my avi? Trying to pocket me or something? Why is it uncomfortable to you?

You've also NOT stated any kind of opinion on the Ryno-Fish 1v1, except that 1 of them is scum (setting up a lynch in what is now most likely a TvT).

Your remark here about Ryno is fence-sitting. 'yeah i was gonna wanny lynch him but now IDK right'.

I'm 100% ok with this being D1 lynch

[RadiantCowbells]

hmm

[RadiantCowbells]

that hop on honestly just makes me scared that you're scum hopping on a me-led mislynch.

[Iconeum]

ur only leading it by a vote, not a case

as scum, i could easily wait for you to post that case and THEN jump on. Less exposure

[RadiantCowbells]

that... doesn't really seem like a thing.

[Iconeum]

do you challenge what i wrote?

[RadiantCowbells]

yes i don't think it's logic that would ever help me scumhunt.

[Formerfish]

yes i don't think it's logic that would ever help me scumhunt.

Did you ever say why you were sring redem?

[RadiantCowbells]

no.

[Formerfish]

no.

I know.

What you basically did was call redeem scum and voted him, promising a case at some point. Then when someone else came in and was like, bro I see it too, look here for what I see as redem scum. And you were like whoa, icon is sring the guy I'm sring, Icon might be scum.

Doesn't make sense bro.

[Formerfish]

It reads as you not wanting to commit to your read on Redem. It couldn't have been a very good one if another person joining you caused that much paranoia.

[Iconeum]

I'm feeling you, Former.

Redemption/RC scumteam?

Or are you actually scumreading Ryno?

[RadiantCowbells]

it reads as me struggling and failing to find my way into this game

[RadiantCowbells]

your case on me requires scum me to be completely incompetent. i am not completely incompetent as scum. there's no scum motivation in what i'm doing. i just can't do it.

if i'm not doing good enough for the newbies i can sub out or something but i have been trying to not sub out and there's not rly a good reason for this one besides just can't do it

[Iconeum]

I'm not calling you incompetent, at all dude. I think ur one of the better players I know.

That doesn't take away it's strange that you insta-scumread the first player to jump on 'your' wagon. A town!RC could be happy someone is also trying to case your scumread.

[RadiantCowbells]

so could a scum!RC.

[Formerfish]

I'm feeling you, Former.

Redemption/RC scumteam?

Or are you actually scumreading Ryno?

I don't know. I don't like the gaslighting and AtE, but he's new and could just be out if his depth.

RC could be, but I think that if he can be useful we have time to see what he is.

Redem is a possibility. What do you think about my Noodle case?

[Iconeum]

that's true.

so, i scumread Redemption for all kinds of reasons as I mentioned.
Let's lynch him instead of Voted or anyone else.

[Formerfish]

it reads as me struggling and failing to find my way into this game

I am trying to give you that in, but you are resistant to taking it for some reason.

[Iconeum]

I've got noodle closer to null then scum right now.
We need to get alligned, sooner then later. I'd like to squeeze Redemption with some votes