Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[KeyLaga]

Traitor. This role is allowed in Complex Normal games.

[Elements]

Kitty could be an informed traitor

[Gamma Emerald]

Sure. I am sorry, I am not trying to derail this thread. To begin with, I see the scum solidly in Elements. I ask you Gamma, what are the chances that Town-Elements just happened to fakeclaim Informed in an Informed themed game?

I ask because this is what Elements is asking all of us (who are town) to believe that she just accidentally claimed Informed.

Anyway, that's the beginning foundation of my scum case on Elements. Who do you think are scum?

It’s not impossible but it is slightly concerning that the false info claimed has relevance to the information a real Informed has
I feel like it could have been a weird move for cred?
VOTE: Elements
My leads are limited atm so I’ll go here

[Gamma Emerald]

Traitor. This role is allowed in Complex Normal games.

Ftr that part regarding complex doesn’t apply to this game because it was reviewed before the new guidelines came out

[Gamma Emerald]

Ate traitors normal?

This question bothers me, I think they’ve been in a normal game with a traitor before? Not 100% sure though.

[Eiralox]

Under old rules , thes3, traitors normal

[Eiralox]

Bit sus on gamma tone rn but eh

[Elements]

Ate traitors normal?

This question bothers me, I think they’ve been in a normal game with a traitor before? Not 100% sure though.

Only game I can remember with a traitor was hms mutiny

[Eiralox]

Ate traitors normal?

This question bothers me, I think they’ve been in a normal game with a traitor before? Not 100% sure though.

Only game I can remember with a traitor was hms mutiny

Had 1 in a normal hosted by umlaut

[Elements]

Ate traitors normal?

This question bothers me, I think they’ve been in a normal game with a traitor before? Not 100% sure though.

Only game I can remember with a traitor was hms mutiny

Had 1 in a normal hosted by umlaut

Fun

[Celebloki]

Sorry, I haven't had much time to post in this game so far, plus a bazillion pages appear while I am asleep. I at least want to get a read wall off, but hope to have some more time later today to interact more. None of these reads are really dead set, just my vibes so far. I need to pour over this game a bit more, plus my D1 reads are always a bit loosey goosey.

Flavor Leaf -

Null Town

- Tend to agree with Naerys, I get a town vibe from the slot so far. Need to wait and see
mayhemthrone - Null - They're in this game?
Organized Khaos -

Lean Scum

- Hasn't posted much and what has been posted been largely fluff
KeyLaga -

Lean Town

- I think his diarrhea posting and general rapid fire speculation comes off as town.
Random Nurse -

Null Scum

- Hasn't really posted much meat yet, could be trying to fly under the radar.
KittyTacky -

Lean Town

- Don't think he'd claim his informed as scum TMI, I believe the informed town claim for now. He didn't claim Jester in RVS which I've seen him do twice as town though. Little sus.
Gamma Emerald -

Lean Town

- I have yet to figure out GE's meta, but I seems to always get town vibes from her.
Eiralox -

Null Town

- light posting, but is contributing.
Celebloki -

Town

- Wow, look at how amazingly town this guy is.
Naerys -

Null Town

- Not much to add, just vibing on the town side here
Elements -

Lean Scum

- Not sure what to think of the joke claim, only called it a joke after KT's claim invalidated it.
OutWorldER -

Lean Town

- scumhunting
Bingle -

Null Scum

- There's something odd here betwen Bingle and Elements. If S/S there could have been some early bussing going on, but then Elements puts Bingle in her town block.

I realize called other players out based on light fluff posting is the pot calling the kettle black, but I'll hide behind my mod confirmation for now.

[Eiralox]

I realize called other players out based on light fluff posting is the pot calling the kettle black, but I'll hide behind my mod confirmation for now.

See yourself leading a lim on kaos today?

I know u wanna play but the more dangerous u become the more utility your role has.
Sure scum takes our inno but they miss prs. And if we got a watcher or adjacent role...

If not kaos who do you think we can push safely?
Pedsonally i think key doesnt flip worse than a vt

[Eiralox]

Ka0s has been seesaw for me. Lost town maybe but first feel was iff. Nurse idk ignoring for today.
Elementsxbingle idk.

[OutWorldER]

I'm here but reading the last few pages causes my eyes to glaze over. Why are we trying to lead a policy lim on the first 14 pages of the game?

re: Elements, I actually think the fake/joke informed claim comes from town here, for reasons I will not divulge. I think it was simply unfortunate for Elements that KT was an actual informed.

[KeyLaga]

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Oh, I understood your case. I just didn't give it the time of day.

It relies on a few presumptions:

Ele is town.
KT's claim about being informed that scum know there is a protective is a lie, and therefore KT is scum.

So in order for me to be shopping the viability of non strongman kills on the IC I have to be scum with KT who also decided to risk a potential mechanical 1v1 with a town elements for the same info I was fishing for.

Thank you for this post. I have sincerely enjoyed it. I apologize for being so far behind, its a weakness of mine. Hope we are aligned as town to work together this game.

[Gamma Emerald]

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Oh, I understood your case. I just didn't give it the time of day.

It relies on a few presumptions:

Ele is town.
KT's claim about being informed that scum know there is a protective is a lie, and therefore KT is scum.

So in order for me to be shopping the viability of non strongman kills on the IC I have to be scum with KT who also decided to risk a potential mechanical 1v1 with a town elements for the same info I was fishing for.

Thank you for this post. I have sincerely enjoyed it. I apologize for being so far behind, its a weakness of mine. Hope we are aligned as town to work together this game.

How are you behind? My brother in arms, you have the most posts!

[Bingle]

I feel like engaging with you isn't really worth it? I get a feeling you don't care to genuinely sort me. That doesn't exactly make you scum, but it means I feel like my efforts are better placed elsewhere.

I may be accurately accused of assuming the worst of your posting so far.

I'm uninterested in an elements wagon at the moment (though not townreading her). Would you be interested in joining me on any of RN, OK, Naerys?

[Gamma Emerald]

RN or OK possibly, I think Naerys seems alright currently. I will ISO the other two to determine my feelings on them soon.

[KeyLaga]

I'm here but reading the last few pages causes my eyes to glaze over. Why are we trying to lead a policy lim on the first 14 pages of the game?

The policy aspect is just to get the idea across that she lied.

[/quote]re: Elements, I actually think the fake/joke informed claim comes from town here, for reasons I will not divulge. I think it was simply unfortunate for Elements that KT was an actual informed.
[/quote]
I think its more that just unfortunate, I think it was deliberate (what are the chances?).

[KeyLaga]

In other words, I believe the "accidental" fakeclaim came straight from the scum PT.

[Eiralox]

how does this benefit scum

[Elements]

In other words, I believe the "accidental" fakeclaim came straight from the scum PT.

You keep saying "accidental" like it means something
I did a, what I thought, was a joke response to Binlge talking about setup spec specifically to undermine what he said. Then a bunch of people took me seriously so I thought I'd keep up the charade and see if I couldn't wifom scum.
What's "accidental" about that?

[KeyLaga]

I am going to wait for Kitty to come back and ask him for advice. I will state my theory once I speak with him.

[KeyLaga]

There is definitely a way scum benefits from this without a doubt IF my theory is correct.

[Gamma Emerald]

I like your avatar Eiralox.