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[Robbnva]

oh he posted it here. nice

[Robbnva]

Wait, mm4 was claiming neighborizor was a pure nai role earlier, but here they're saying it's a town role

where ?

[MarioManiac4]

Wait, mm4 was claiming neighborizor was a pure nai role earlier, but here they're saying it's a town role

no I'm saying it clears itself in this particular scenario (i.e can't be scum because his role was neighbourizer and neighbourizers can't break "protection")

[Dunnstral]

Here:

If Zach neighborized me he wouldn't have had to claim at the time because I would have voted Creature from the start with knowledge of his role

You convinced him to not neighborize me and I was pushing him, and in that situation he should have revealed sooner if he was going to anyway so I could see things in a new light

that's not what you said
and your vote isn't required to lynch creature

Yes a NAI role is a position changer got it

pedit: How about a quote that literally says the exact thing I said that you said :roll:

I believe he said it earlier in the game as well

[MarioManiac4]

it is indeed a nai role

[Dunnstral]

I'm voting Creature buddy

And how was I supposed to know you were going to do that? I appreciate you jumping out of your tunnel on me and Zach but it makes like no sense because at its base Neighbourizer is a NAI claim.

This too

[Robbnva]

hey dun, have you ever fake claimed as scum before? if yes can I get a link?

[Dunnstral]

Wait, mm4 was claiming neighborizor was a pure nai role earlier, but here they're saying it's a town role

no I'm saying it clears itself in this particular scenario (i.e can't be scum because his role was neighbourizer and neighbourizers can't break "protection")

That's not what you said though:

Also based on the fact that all PTs are open all the time it makes little sense for Zach to be scum!neighbourizer; it's probably more likely that town has a PT.

[Dunnstral]

hey dun, have you ever fake claimed as scum before? if yes can I get a link?

I'll get them, I remember 2 and both were under duress of being immediately lynched I believe

[MarioManiac4]

well yes at that moment i thought it was more likely for zach to be town!neighbourizer

i don't really believe that logic is true anymore but hey it was correct

[MarioManiac4]

(and neighbourizer as a role is still nai, i was referring to this scenario w/ the rule)

[Robbnva]

if true that would be interesting actually

[Robbnva]

so now I have to think if dunn would plan a fake claim out in advance or would mario ignore the claim and never kill him knowing the scum roles.

[Dunnstral]

Game 1: viewtopic.php?p=8411768#p8411768

I claim friendly neighbor at l-1 with people wanting to lynch me, I live through that day but got killed the next night after it became clear I was fakeclaiming

Game 2: viewtopic.php?p=8579910#p8579910

Scroll up to the townie flip for context

This game had a special mechanic where using a power on somebody additionally transfers that power to them (so the prs were rotating)
there was a watcher power on the dead body, I claimed that it was my spell without naming names, when I was cc'd by the person who caught me I said I had a guilty on them

[Robbnva]

I think I am leaning towards voting dunn but idk yet.

[Dunnstral]

Well you're wrong, what is making you think that?

Did you look over mm4's post links and my response to that?

[Robbnva]

I did and I think he makes good points, especially the stuff about vote counts.

[MarioManiac4]

wait i did remember my question to gratiae i noted it in 171 in the hood \o/

[Robbnva]

Besides if Mario is scum he's probably going to get banned. I can't see him doing that for an easy win.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think he makes good points, did you read my responses?

[Robbnva]

Not yet.

[Robbnva]

elena was a rc wagon

I thought you said you led the lynch.

no, i was on at the start of the wagon, when it wasn't popular. rc was the one who got the votes onto it.

This isn't true at all. you were voting creature when the wagon started. You put her to l-1

VOTE: elena
if you insist
this is l-1

This would make you in a very scummy slot on a mislynch that never should have happened. I don't see elena getting lynched with no scum on the wagon.

which negates this statement.

That wagon doesn't mean anything. All the people who jumped on it were town so the person who started it could be of any alignment.

some people unvote cause rc has 2nd thoughts or watever. wake votes me. and you replace out.

you retract your replacement when elena is back at l-2. You only appear first because everyone unvotes for whatever reason and you aren't around.


so now I think I want to vote mario because that is just a blatant in lylo. At that point knowing scum can kill the cop, going full on RC mode bussing dead weight for town cred is the smart play.

going to sleep on it but this does not look good for mario.

[Dunnstral]

D1 FINAL VOTE COUNT

Elena Fisher

(7): MarioManiac4,

RadiantCowbells, Zachstralkita, Wake88, ThinkBig, firecrocer, Elena Fisher

ThinkBig (2): DrumBeats

, Dunnstral
MarioManiac4 (1): Robbnva

Gratiae

(1):

Creature

Dunnstral (1):

Ircher

No Vote (1):

Gratiae

[Dunnstral]

if you keep reading you'll find that a lot of what mario has been saying today isn't true...

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Robbnva
If you're town and you legitimately think that because Ircher has been my TR all game I MUST BE FUCKING CHEATING then I dont even know what to say. But that's just complete and utter bullshit and a made-up argument. Eat rope.

VOTE: elena
if you insist

this is l-1

pedit: accusing someone of cheating =/= confbias
it takes a very certain kind of recreational drug to actually come to that fucking conclusion as town and even then youre scum 99.99% of the time
like that does not come from a position of "evaluate possibilities" it comes from a position of "find possibilities"

It's true that he should actually be displayed at the l-1 spot