Mini 1068: Prozacs Basic Theme 2: OVER

[StrangerCoug]

I

AM

voting you. Pay attention.

[Moospiker]

Ugh. Post was a response to FlameAxe.

[xRECKONERx]

I'll catch up here soon...ish.

[Flameaxe]

50% is more regular.

Define regular. I have never seen a 50% doc/vig in 50+ games on this site, let alone a 25% doc/vig. I would hardly call either one more likely than the other.

WIFOM

Help. Is this the answer of why, or are you just spouting buzzwords to avoid a question? It could go either way.

Because I don't believe the claim. Why can't you just accept this? If you can't, just vote me or whatever.

A tad bit overreacting? I asked you one question. Despite that, I generally find it to be a bad idea to lynch any claimed doc, regardless of what one thinks of said claim. Do you find SC scummy for any reason OTHER than his claim? (For that matter, do you find anyone else scummy for something actually scummy?)

[Moospiker]

50% is more regular.

Define regular. I have never seen a 50% doc/vig in 50+ games on this site, let alone a 25% doc/vig. I would hardly call either one more likely than the other.

It's the way I see it. Half/Half is going to be more common than Three Quarters/One Quarter.

WIFOM

Help. Is this the answer of why, or are you just spouting buzzwords to avoid a question? It could go either way.

Think about it. If he claims a regular doctor or vig, then we might see it as a 'safe' claim and lynch him. So he claims some weird role so we can't see it as a 'safe' claim.

Because I don't believe the claim. Why can't you just accept this? If you can't, just vote me or whatever.

A tad bit overreacting? I asked you one question. Despite that, I generally find it to be a bad idea to lynch any claimed doc, regardless of what one thinks of said claim. Do you find SC scummy for any reason OTHER than his claim? (For that matter, do you find anyone else scummy for something actually scummy?)

You're missing the point. 'Bad idea to lynch any claimed doc?' He's claimed a 25% Vig, 75% Doc. That's what I find scummy. Nothing else.

[Flameaxe]

But why do you see it as scummy? What exactly makes you shoot straight towards scum instead of it not actually being his role?

[StrangerCoug]

It's the way I see it. Half/Half is going to be more common than Three Quarters/One Quarter.

You can say it one million times and the only response you're going to get is "La la la, you're scum." "This does not make sense to me, so it's not in the game" can be a very dangerous fallacy.

Think about it. If he claims a regular doctor or vig, then we might see it as a 'safe' claim and lynch him. So he claims some weird role so we can't see it as a 'safe' claim.

So you think I took a gamble and lost. Sorry, but I can't figure out the more ridiculous case of yours: the one on drmyshottyizsik or the one on me.

[drmyshottyizsik]

i will have limmitted access untill after thanksgiving

[Flameaxe]

i will have limmitted access untill after thanksgiving

Looks like you're here now, a quick read with opinions would be cool. Just...something.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ebwop

limitted access

and yes I am here breefly, I was posting that message in all of my games.
I will skim really quick

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok from skimming briefly I noticed how scummy SC is starting to look, gtg

[Porochaz]

Bub - 3 - Blackberry, Reck, drshotty
moospiker - 3 - Jahudo, Bub, Strangercoug
Reck - 1 - Flameaxe
Blackberry - 1 - Rhinox
StrangerCoug - 1 - Moospiker

Not voting - 1 - q21

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[q21]

Okay, so I have the chance to tip one of Moospiker or Bub ahead of the other and onto L-2. I don't like the way Moospiker has responded to the situation and I have a better opinion of most of the people voting Moospiker at the moment.

Vote Moospiker

Better bet for scum at the moment in my view.

[xRECKONERx]

Oh for fuck's sake, the Moospiker wagon is still a thing?

*sigh*

Anyone wanna point out what he's done since the last time this was a debate that makes him a good lynch candidate?

[Flameaxe]

Oh for fuck's sake, the Moospiker wagon is still a thing?

*sigh*

Anyone wanna point out what he's done since the last time this was a debate that makes him a good lynch candidate?

As soon as you give the game a good reason why you jumped ship, sure!

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote moose

Moose and Reck scum team, I'm calling it

[xRECKONERx]

How about this:

I've been nomadic since Thursday and haven't stayed at the same place long enough to actually concentrate, not to mention some dramatic fucking shit has been going on. I said I'd get my head back in the game when I could.

[Porochaz]

unvote
vote moose

Moose and Reck scum team, I'm calling it

Do you mean moospiker?

[drmyshottyizsik]

yes i do sorry

[StrangerCoug]

Oh for fuck's sake, the Moospiker wagon is still a thing?

*sigh*

Anyone wanna point out what he's done since the last time this was a debate that makes him a good lynch candidate?

He's saying that, since I said I have one chance in four rather than one chance in two of killing instead of protecting my targets, I must be scum.

LAME.

I also have good reason right now to believe that Moospiker and drmyshottyizsik are of opposing alignments, and I want to get rid of my more confident scum read first.

[Jahudo]

It's the way I see it. Half/Half is going to be more common than Three Quarters/One Quarter.

Is there any logic behind this? I don't see any.

50% vig only seems more likely if there is not another role that can night kill. Part of balance is making sure a game does not end too soon.

If we believe SC's claim, then its likely we have a third killing power unaccounted for (unless its a redirect power of some kind). So with the setup information we can speculate on now, it seems more common for SC to be 25% vig and 75% doc.

You can still argue that SC is scum and disregard the possibility of 3 killing powers, but you can't use an argument that actually supports SC's claim.

[q21]

He's already claimed. I'm fine with a hammer any time.

[Blackberry]

Just got back.

I've now had a gender change because the mod says so.

I've read through the game and to be honest, I can't see anything that stands out as scummy. But the deadline's in 3 days and TBH I think I'd rather lynch Esp (with his unvote shenanigans) than no lynch.

So I'm ready to hammer, I want a claim from Esp.

Jeez guys. I'm obviously gonna get lynched at some point because a good number of people are hell-bent on it. So just do it now and then move on tommorow.

PS: My role PM says I'm gay and interested in a guy called Ross

Don't these kind of contradict?

If your original secret was that you were gay, why would you need a gender change?

50% is more regular.

WIFOM

Because I don't believe the claim. Why can't you just accept this? If you can't, just vote me or whatever.

Anyone that flat out says "WIFOM" gets 20 scum points.

...

And I'm bored.

Bub should be murdered. "Protect him" again Mr. Doctor please.

Unvote, Vote: Moospiker

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I'm lynching a guy because he claims to be gay. ~ Blackberry, Mini 1068, #422

[xRECKONERx]

merde

[Moospiker]

Is that hammer?