mini 1340 ENDGAME

[Bricktoes]

Trollie: Why do you think Money is scummier than Dann? Because looking back, that is the first hipster thing you've done so far.

What do you mean by hipster here?

[Bricktoes]

Okay, I'm more than happy with where my vote is. I'll post most of my reads later. Trollie, feel free to answer the questions I've asked you.

Dann, you've reversed both of your scumreads in the last hundred posts. Who do you suspect now?
Atlas, consider this a formal invitation to post any reads at all.

[jee]

Trollie: Why do you think Money is scummier than Dann? Because looking back, that is the first hipster thing you've done so far.

What do you mean by hipster here?

As in, not mainstream. Not following everyone else and just agreeing. It was the first thing that he contributed that wasn't already said.


Side note: had some friends over tonight, so I'm like 5 pages behind, a lot happened tonight. I just happened to read this post. I'll be catching up tomorrow afternoon.

UNVOTE

[TvK]

@TvK, Internet Stranger, Iknal, and atlasblade

I want to hear your thoughts on this whole escapade. I know it's long, but I really want to know what an unbiased viewpoint sees.

The only thing I see is people disagreeing with eachother. What Monkey is doing with posts as "it's past his bedtime" is what got him on L-1 the first time, and now after he's almost confirmed town, he's still making these useless comments.

I can see what kondi is trying to do. It could have been the best way to hunt scum after he was lynched, but he should have known this would also fail. So again, not even a small step closer to lynching scum.

For Trollie and Arugula, and feeling more and more like you two are both town, even though desperately convinced that the other is scum. People are right when they say there are 13 players in this game. The only players that were targetted are Monkey, Trollie and Arugula, who possibly are all town. This leaves 3 or 4 laughing scums watching on the sidelines.

About Dannflor, I absolutely have no idea. Because of his behaviour (voting, unvoting, FoSing), I can't read him at all. Also you FoS'd and even HoS'd some players in the beginning stages. What happened to those reads?

And finally, Smooth. He seemed like sheeptown at first, but now he did something I absolutely don't like:

You three are scum together and your wincon is to piss me off.

Please tell me you're not including me in "you three." I've strayed away, or at least tried, from trollie, and have had nothing to do with kondi (Who is being mighty ridiculous).

Don't throw me in with those two, please.

[kondi2424]

I'm sorry I raged on you last night, dicknose. You're right. VOTE: Monkey

But I DO have a tough time with putting my reasoning into words. I think Trollie has said most of everything that sums up why Monkey is scum.

[Iknal]

I know I haven't posted enough recently, but I'll make a post with my thoughts tomorrow lunch - I have my exams next week, so neck deep in study.

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm sorry I raged on you last night, dicknose. You're right. VOTE: Monkey

But I DO have a tough time with putting my reasoning into words. I think Trollie has said most of everything that sums up why Monkey is scum.

Kondi and Trollie agreeing with each other on EVERYTHING is exactly why anybody needs to be suspicious of anything they say.

[kondi2424]

That makes perfect sense.

[Dannflor]

That makes perfect sense.

I lol'd

As for TvK, I don't know at the moment. I'm still trying to gather my thoughts and put together a read on someone. I'll respond fully to that soon, I have a few ideas.

[Arugula]

You three are scum together and your wincon is to piss me off.

Please tell me you're not including me in "you three." I've strayed away, or at least tried, from trollie, and have had nothing to do with kondi (Who is being mighty ridiculous).

Don't throw me in with those two, please.

SCUM ALERT!

I can't believe what I'm reading. You have been adamantly agreeing with everything that Trollie and kondi say, but then don't want to be compared to them? Seriously? What do you expect us to do when you have been sheeping them the whole game until this post?

You finally realized that you are not going to win this argument, and want to shift the attention from you to Trollie and kondi.

Smooth Criminal's play makes a lot of sense from scum perspective.

He jumps on the Monkey wagon, thinking it's an easy lynch. He buddies up with Trollie and kondi when there is any resistance to the wagon. Then, still thinking he will win the argument, he sides with kondi and Trollie the whole way through and tries to get me to be mislynched for either D1 or D2.

Then, he realizes that he is losing the argument and more people are against him, so he slowly drifts away from Trollie and kondi, putting the spotlight on them. It is a smart move, but that post made it way too obvious.

UNVOTE: Trollie
VOTE: Smooth Criminal

And I'm not saying that Trollie isn't scummy. He is, but Smooth Criminal's flip may determine his alignment, and SC is scummier due to that last post. kondi is just a bad player, but town. Just because you are town doesn't mean your reads are right. For example, if Trollie is lynched and flips town, that doesn't mean I am scum. On the flip side, if I am lynched and flip town, that doesn't mean Trollie is scum. If you really are town, lynching yourself would be the dumbest thing you can do. Literally. And on top of that, you are voting Monkey even when your allies want to wait and test if he really is the vig.

[Atlasblade]

[quote="post 367

"I'm THAT confident that both

Monkey and Arugula are scum

, as well as in

Trollie being town

."

You three are scum together and your wincon is to piss me off.

Please tell me you're not including me in "you three." I've strayed away, or at least tried, from trollie, and have had nothing to do with kondi (Who is being mighty ridiculous).

Don't throw me in with those two, please.

I think by the three people Dicknose was referring to he probably was talking about Monkey, Argula, and Kondi.

Nowhere did I see you being referred to in any way after that angry post from Kondi. If anything he was referring to monkey and Argula. Not only that, Kondi posted that he was confident that trollie would be town. So why exactly did you think that you would be lumped together with them when dicknose was more than likely implying from post 367 about argula, monkey and kondi?

Care to explain?

[Smooth Criminal]

You have been adamantly agreeing with everything that Trollie and kondi say, but then don't want to be compared to them?

This is far from true. As I said in an earlier post, I agree with them on whom I believe to be scum, but I DO NOT agree on the plan of action. Right around the time Trollie decided it would be a good idea to keep his vote on Monkey is when I dropped out of their little team.

You finally realized that you are not going to win this argument, and want to shift the attention from you to Trollie and kondi.

This would imply that I'm shifting away from my side of the argument as well, and that is entirely untrue. I'm still sticking to my guns on who I think scum is, or at least one of them. I believe still that Arugula is scum, but am straying away from the idea that monkey is scum. Yes it's still possible, but with no CC it's much less likely.

He jumps on the Monkey wagon, thinking it's an easy lynch.

I jumped on the wagon not because it was easy (and it's proven not to be very easy at all), but because of Dann's newbscum possibility of being a bus, and the idea that lynching the most experienced of the two would make most sense.

He buddies up with Trollie and kondi when there is any resistance to the wagon. Then, still thinking he will win the argument, he sides with kondi and Trollie the whole way through and tries to get me to be mislynched for either D1 or D2.

I agreed with Trollie at a point where Arugula's argument convinced me, and still has me convinced that he is scum.

Then, he realizes that he is losing the argument and more people are against him, so he slowly drifts away from Trollie and kondi, putting the spotlight on them.

Like I said above- Still with the argument, Not still with the plan of action. And I've put no spotlight on anyone.

And I'd also like to point out I've had no interaction with Kondi throughout this whole ordeal, so pairing me with him just because trollie is is a fallacy. Then Kondi goes on his suicidal rampage, which at no point did I think that was a good idea, and I ask nicely not to go down with his logic.

I think by the three people Dicknose was referring to he probably was talking about Monkey, Argula, and Kondi.

The argument was going so fast I wasn't really sure who he was talking about. I thought since he generally disagree'd with Kondi and Trollie and myself, that I was bunched with the group in his mind -- something that I'm obviously trying to avoid.

[Atlasblade]

The argument was going so fast I wasn't really sure who he was talking about. I thought since he generally disagree'd with Kondi and Trollie and myself, that I was bunched with the group in his mind -- something that I'm obviously trying to avoid.

Personally I find that hard to believe in this case. It was fairly obvious that he wasn't referring to you since I highly doubt they even mentioned you in that argument let alone lumped you with trollie and Kondi.

[Smooth Criminal]

Personally I find that hard to believe in this case. It was fairly obvious that he wasn't referring to you since I highly doubt they even mentioned you in that argument let alone lumped you with trollie and Kondi.

You know, maybe it's hard to believe, but it's true. I'm not sure what else to say.

[Dannflor]

You three are scum together and your wincon is to piss me off.

Please tell me you're not including me in "you three." I've strayed away, or at least tried, from trollie, and have had nothing to do with kondi (Who is being mighty ridiculous).

Don't throw me in with those two, please.

Wow, you're way to eager to disassociate from Trollie and kondi now that people are starting to get suspicious of them. You never mentioned how you had nothing to do with them before, it seemed to me like you were just copying them. Anyway, I'm pretty sure he wasn't even referring to you, you seem very quick to jump to conclusions and act as if you've had nothing to do with trollie and kondi. Why so nervous?

[Smooth Criminal]

Wow, you're way to eager to disassociate from Trollie and kondi now that people are starting to get suspicious of them. You never mentioned how you had nothing to do with them before, it seemed to me like you were just copying them. Anyway, I'm pretty sure he wasn't even referring to you, you seem very quick to jump to conclusions and act as if you've had nothing to do with trollie and kondi. Why so nervous?

I'm not about to associate with someone who is willing to kill himself to "prove" he's right. Read my above post.

[Arugula]

You three are scum together and your wincon is to piss me off.

Please tell me you're not including me in "you three." I've strayed away, or at least tried, from trollie, and have had nothing to do with kondi (Who is being mighty ridiculous).

Don't throw me in with those two, please.

Wow, you're way to eager to disassociate from Trollie and kondi now that people are starting to get suspicious of them. You never mentioned how you had nothing to do with them before, it seemed to me like you were just copying them. Anyway, I'm pretty sure he wasn't even referring to you, you seem very quick to jump to conclusions and act as if you've had nothing to do with trollie and kondi. Why so nervous?

Dann hit the nail on the head.

And SC, you agreed with them on all points except the "plan of action" (although Trollie ended up siding with the test), so don't make it like you only agreed with them a little bit. You were full out on a team with them, and denying it is not helping you.

Lastly, it is EXTREMELY hypocritical of you to berate me for pairing you up with kondi when you had no interactions, when you did THE SAME EXACT THING with Monkey and me.

[Bricktoes]

Dann, you've reversed both of your scumreads in the last hundred posts. Who do you suspect now?
Atlas, consider this a formal invitation to post any reads at all.

[TvK]

VOTE: Smooth Criminal, because of what I said in my last post and his last few posts.

Also Arugula, what's with the extreme buddying with Dann suddenly? First he was your main scumread and now everything he says are your thoughts exactly.

[Arugula]

VOTE: Smooth Criminal, because of what I said in my last post and his last few posts.

Also Arugula, what's with the extreme buddying with Dann suddenly? First he was your main scumread and now everything he says are your thoughts exactly.

I'm not extreme buddying with him. He's had a few posts I agree with. That's all. I already mentioned that he was first sheeping, but then formed his own opinions, which I happen to agree with. (Except for that he still thinks Monkey is scummy)

[TheTrollie]

fyi sick today. will catch up when I get over this

[Arugula]

fyi sick today. will catch up when I get over this

Feel better.

[Bricktoes]

deadline is on june 2 11:40 pst ((expired on 2012-06-02 23:40:00))

with 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Two days guys, let's hurry this up.

[Smooth Criminal]

I can see how this would incriminate me, but you gotta see it from my point of view. Kondi went on his little suicide rant and then you (or at least I thought) were comparing my ideals to his. I want no part of that.

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm fine with Trollie, kondi, or SC(in that order, preferably)