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Post Post #6555 (isolation #400) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:15 pm

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It's clearly bus driver.
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Post Post #6556 (isolation #401) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:17 pm

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Otherwise Bulba and I banned-worthly threw the game for scum.
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Post Post #6627 (isolation #402) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:30 am

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Role isn't AI.
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Post Post #6628 (isolation #403) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:31 am

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Also, how does my town flip confirms QR as scum?
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Post Post #6629 (isolation #404) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:32 am

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If my townflip doesn't confirm anyone as scum, I refuse to be lynched.
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Post Post #6631 (isolation #405) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:50 am

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How a bus driver would work:

Bus drives Ginngie and TWIE
Scum targets TWIE

Bulba gets result on Ginngie (who was doing his action surely) and is unaware of that
I protect TWIE instead of Ginngie
Scum kills Ginngie instead of an unprotected TWIE
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Post Post #6632 (isolation #406) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:51 am

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Even if Bulba was scum, wouldn't that be possible he used strongman to override my protect?
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Post Post #6637 (isolation #407) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:34 am

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Why is Titus cleared btw? Her being BG doesn't make her town.
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Post Post #6639 (isolation #408) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:40 am

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Scum bodyguard can't exist then?

I thought that if there were a town rolecop atleast one scum would have a pro-town role.
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Post Post #6641 (isolation #409) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:02 pm

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Nobody ever said why there can't be a scum bodyguard.
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Post Post #6644 (isolation #410) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:04 pm

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It's useless to put "Titus can't be scum because QR saw her being bodyguard" if you won't explain why bodyguard can't be a scum role.
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Post Post #6645 (isolation #411) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:05 pm

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In post 6642, A2 wrote:A Bodyguard to protect from what?
Themselves?
So scum got a bunch of roles that the rolecop can easily catch?
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Post Post #6647 (isolation #412) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:06 pm

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Also, I'm assuming the safeclaims are something like "Town Roleblocker" and "Town Redirector", I don't see the point for mastina to give a completely distinct safeclaim.
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Post Post #6648 (isolation #413) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:06 pm

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If I am scum, I must be scum doctor you know.

No way I'd randomly guess there was no doctor in the town.
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Post Post #6649 (isolation #414) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:07 pm

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I saw Mafia Weak Doctor.

What was it used for? To counter role cop.
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Post Post #6653 (isolation #415) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:09 pm

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Btw, why would there be a scum doctor?
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Post Post #6655 (isolation #416) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:11 pm

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I am lol

Otherwise I am pretty pretty lucky to have guessed there would be no doctor.
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Post Post #6657 (isolation #417) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:12 pm

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I softed (where I basically had no chance of retracting) doctor when there were a bunch of unclaimed players. If I were scum any of them could be doctor.
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Post Post #6659 (isolation #418) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:12 pm

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In post 6656, A2 wrote:PEDIT: COMMON SENSE DICTATES THAT MASTINA ISN'T GOING TO PUT A DOCTOR BODYGUARD COMBO IN THE GAME WHEN THEY CAN JUST STRAIGHT UP EACH OTHER.
Scum got plenty of counters:
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Post Post #6660 (isolation #419) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:13 pm

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Just give up trying to setup spec.
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Post Post #6661 (isolation #420) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:13 pm

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The way you're doing it is assuming mastina would make a game that could be broken with massclaim.
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Post Post #6662 (isolation #421) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:14 pm

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Bus driver is like a pretty strong counter that can render most of the town roles useless.
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Post Post #6664 (isolation #422) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:14 pm

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Bulbazak, what do you think that happened with your investigation?
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Post Post #6666 (isolation #423) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:15 pm

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In post 6663, A2 wrote:Being in the dark ruins any attempt at a massclaim since you don't know what you actually are.
What about the light part?
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Post Post #6667 (isolation #424) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:16 pm

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Hence why, either I'm town doctor or scum doctor.

So the same can apply to Titus being town bodyguard or scum bodyguard.
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Post Post #6668 (isolation #425) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:16 pm

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Telling I'm no doctor is pretty much a fallacy.
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Post Post #6671 (isolation #426) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:18 pm

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In post 6670, Bulbazak wrote:Someone tampered with it.
Like a bus driver?

Oh, let's bus drive Ginngie and TWIE. Bulbazak will get an inaccurate result and Creature will fail his protect.
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Post Post #6672 (isolation #427) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:19 pm

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If I ever played that good as scum (admit most of you were townreading me at some point), I wouldn't have just thrown like that.
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Post Post #6678 (isolation #428) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:05 pm

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So bus driver can't be a factional boon?
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Post Post #6679 (isolation #429) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:07 pm

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Town has:
Primary ability

Scum has:
Primary ability (something that town can also be)
Factional boon
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Post Post #6680 (isolation #430) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:08 pm

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From my perspective bus driver must be a factional boon.
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Post Post #6681 (isolation #431) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:08 pm

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I believe QR has role cop abilities, doesn't mean I believe it's town.
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Post Post #6684 (isolation #432) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:31 pm

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If I flip town how are you going to explain it?
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Post Post #6685 (isolation #433) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:32 pm

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If I am town doctor, we have light with:
Confirmed BG
Confirmed Desperado
Practically confirmed rolecop
You

So either it's a factional boon or it's you.
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Post Post #6686 (isolation #434) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:33 pm

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Also, there's still your investigation mess-up.
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Post Post #6761 (isolation #435) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:21 pm

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This game is like SU 2 where everybody was clearing scum because alliances.
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Post Post #6762 (isolation #436) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:23 pm

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Btw, MoI is the only town player I've ever seen being bad enough to keep responding repeatedly "you're not town" whenever I asked "What if I flip town?"
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Post Post #6763 (isolation #437) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:29 pm

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If Bulba will keep arguing bus driver can't be a factional boon then he's explicitly scumclaiming.
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Post Post #6764 (isolation #438) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:31 pm

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I'm not voting anyone rn I don't need to rush.
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Post Post #6800 (isolation #439) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:16 am

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Factional boon still can't be detected by rolecop.
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Post Post #6801 (isolation #440) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:19 am

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I guess I got a virus.

Is it fine to share what that virus name is?
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Post Post #6802 (isolation #441) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:45 am

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For anyone besides Bulbazak surely

Do you think something could have messed up Bulbazak's results? What would be it?
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Post Post #6811 (isolation #442) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:02 pm

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Btw, why is Titus cleared from having a factional boon that interfered my protect on Ginn?
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Post Post #7112 (isolation #443) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:24 pm

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My mislynch costed town the game. It was so obvious there was a bus driver speacially to Bulbazak who decided to just lynch me anyway.

QR would have been lynched and A2 likely caught in the process.
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Post Post #7124 (isolation #444) » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:13 am

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In post 7120, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 7112, Creature wrote:My mislynch costed town the game. It was so obvious there was a bus driver speacially to Bulbazak who decided to just lynch me anyway.

QR would have been lynched and A2 likely caught in the process.
Your reads are decent but you need to work on being charismatic
I already do my job by being pretty direct.
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Post Post #7127 (isolation #445) » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:20 am

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Yeah, who would rather just ignore my good reads and sheep who have bad reads...
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Post Post #7129 (isolation #446) » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:27 am

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Well, I won't do like most players do by spamming "X is scum" and never ever changing my reads.

If you know I must have got good reads yet you still ignore me, it's also partly your fault.
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Post Post #7131 (isolation #447) » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:34 am

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Ninja and strongman should've been limited (maybe atleast made non-consecutive).

1-shot dayvig and vengeful should be disabled if they would give scum the win as soon they were used.
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Post Post #7160 (isolation #448) » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:09 am

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A2 was mostly townread by her role.
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