Mini Normal 2030: Day 8

[profii]

So voting records:


N_M -

Crimson

,

Performer

, Rogers
LE -

Crimson

,

Performer

,

Gamma

Profii - Rogers,

Performer

,

Gamma

Akarin -

Crimson

, No Vote,

Performer

Rogers -

Performer

,

Performer

,

Gamma

,
Creature -

Crimson

, Not_maf, Profii

[profii]

So initially i want to see if Rogers had a reason for not being on Crimson - i remember contemplating it then LE hammered when it happened but it's up for you to look for reasons :p


Then obviously why did people pretty make all the rest of the votes :-/

this will be fun

[profii]

We have the result now

VOTE: no lynch

It’s mylo

The nk will help us sort

Go from there

[profii]

So creatures been playing in 140 characters or less also, thats interesting...

What’s the low road

[profii]

Why is no lynchin the low road I don’t get it

[profii]

Result

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?? So first you wanted a NK over extended day to help give leads, Now no NK is a result?

LE - no gun
Profii - no gun
Akarin - no gun
N_M - gunsmith
Creature / Alonzo = ?

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@mod - if N_M does what he did yesterday and spends half the game week trolling his result, can we consider that non-game advancing content which doesn’t reset the prod - dodge counter and replace him out if he does it again please?

This game is nearly over and we don’t need to spend 7 days waiting for the result

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No offence n_m btw

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My list was gun smith results

You could be a scum neighbour as far as we know

Anyway - we get a result today and you never know, there may be a protective which gives us the last result tomorrow so keep the faith that should make things easy peasy

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Perdition roofl

Lol I know but there is no reason for us to drag on something which should be as simple as

Result
No lynch
No lynch
No lynch

We should literally have this wrapped up in at worst 48 hours

[profii]

If not mafias next post isn’t his result I’m gonna replace out

[profii]

VOTE: no lynch

[profii]

The point of not saying was if n_m was trolling and hadn’t come up with the reaction test himself then I might have given him an idea

Given that his first post of the day wasn’t another result he was probably trolling

we either no lynch and see if we either get another result or a n_m flip and start trusting his results more

Or we decide this trolling is lynch worthy

No one is forth coming with any cases so let’s get the result out of n_m and move on

[profii]

The point is he hasn’t actually said that, he is just continuing his troll stance on waganomics

[profii]

He's bound to his vote, He's clearly NOT the gunsmith here.. WMDYW?

Explain

[profii]

The point is he hasn’t actually said that, he is just continuing his troll stance on waganomics

Nope I clearly did say that

fine

who believes?

who disbelieves to the point where we should vote N_M over no lynching?

who just wants to no lynch and hope for the best tomorrow?

I want to lynch alonzo

[profii]

No he's pushing a fake guilty..

Wait did he claim his result?

So he says >.<

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I don’t care if we lynch Alonzo on the grounds of Roger leaving his vote open for ages or N_M for trolling I just want to end the game.

[profii]

VOTE: no lynch
If n m survives everyone’s been checked

We basically have to decide if we believe n m

Simples

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I'm a double (non)voter now, wooooo!

Nauci: Does the game end in a draw if we go a certain amount of time without anyone dying? And can we vote to end the night early?

I think 3 consecutive days of no deaths results in a draw?

[profii]

I’m pretty sure it’s 3 cycles but I thought it was town win

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But I didn’t know it was 3 votes not 4 for a no lynch to go through so don’t take my word on it

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We’ve verified N_M has a night action...

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How?

Almost50 roleblocked him
The n_m said his action failed _before_ he knew there was a roleblocker in the game
A50 then flipped town so we also know that wasn’t planned

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I’m gonna vote Alonzo.

All in favour? Against?

[profii]

So just to re affirm, NM is Conf town in your eyes?

Is there a role in this game that could give a gunsmith a False positive?

@Profii

I was gonna lie and say yes so you don’t nk me and I can push this tomorrow but there is no harm in airing my current theory now

Yes there are roles with false positives - we’ve been considering the already flipped roles as Creature mentioned plus a possible scum doc due to the Crimson fake claim on day 1

The other role that I think fits neatly is the scum-gunsmith - technically n_m obviously won’t investigate himself so imo given that you have asked me if n_m is conf town I think your plan is to take the bus today if I said I trust N _M hence I flirted with the idea of fibbing


However in total honesty I think it’s you and n_m so il vote either way

[profii]

Then NM is bluffing

To further my point you are pushing fake news - nothing stopping it being you plus n_m and a bus happening here

[profii]

I hadn’t really paid attention to that but good point let’s see what that looks like

LE revealed his full roll in day 3 (3748)
Scum killed A50 that night as he was RB and could stop their kills

They then had to shoot LE every night since, knowing, certainly after shot 1 they would have to commit to it to remove him from the game
This meant 2 things - they weren’t bothered by N_M but that doesn’t establish him as town or the existence of scum doc

It could also mean LE was being town read by someone that would make lylo harder for scum, otherwise just kill some other VT.

Imma go look for that but not right now

[profii]

well we know that 1 of Alonzo and N_M surely must be scum, they've been cross voting for so long that scum would have finished the game by now.

i just dont know which to pick

[profii]

VOTE: not mafia

I’ve had enough

[profii]

This game, wanna finish it

[profii]

UNVOTE:

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Hmmmm

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I’d suggest further cross voting but this game is so inactive iso if it’s gonna work

[profii]

creature - I’ll assume you are town for not hammering, if you pick one of n_m / Alonzo i will sheep, let’s get it done

[profii]

VOTE: not_mafia

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yep

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hi

[profii]

any idea of who you are gonna vote?

[profii]

Right I've read you and Akarins ISOs (+ your predecessors)

I guess we will see what Akarin wants to do next.

[profii]

It appears Akarin may not be site active rn

[profii]

the first question i want to ask is to Creature - what made you go against N_Ms supposed guilty on Alonzo yesterday?

[profii]

I was thinking that where Alonzo chucked that vote out for ages he was scum

Plus the cross vote made me think it was scum v scum bus to get someone over the line today.

Rogers post count did bug me which made me ok with sheeping you on n_m

[profii]

When n_m and Alonzo were voting each other I thought they were 2 scums both trying to bus for town cred

[profii]

I’m just calling the slot by the last in :-/

[profii]

Yo Nauci u ok?

[profii]

You guys still around ?

[profii]

Any questions for me?

[profii]

What about it?

[profii]

I mean: What's your hypothesis on Alonzo being killed over me?

Alonzo was a neighbour so presumably scum felt that claim was going to score town points with someone enough that their win would have been at risk today

It’s easy enough for scum to say you picked N_M yesterday because you were informed if Akarin is the last scum

Really my hypothesis is it’s probably obvious to scum I am the least certain and thus easily convincable which is why I am purposely not venturing who I believe the scum to be before either of you 2



But I do not envy a replacement having to read 100 + pages potentially

[profii]

It was Creature I knew it

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Flavor was honorary scum. On another site I play they assign least valuable town and most valuable mafia. Flavor would win both

You are lovely

[profii]

Shout out to Nauci

Probably the most comprehensive vote tracking I’ve seen on this site thus far and keeping a very long game going - well done

[profii]

I caught one scum, and i helped one scum. I balanced out.

I caught one scum more than you did. I was all over nm’s fake claim. You latched on to somebody who others suspected and tried to take credit for the lynch.

We all still lost dude

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Profii how the fuck did you not realize NM was stalling to avoid getting trapped by his GS results

Just assumed he was being his usual trolly self

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No beef here what

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Gamma did the SAME THING, but me in Creature’s spot, Creature in the NM spot, so it was destined to happen.

Scum just killed me off the perfect timing, cuz I was coming in gunning for Creature.

The problem with that is the only people that knew that were you 3- you just told us now and N_M was scum

So it was kinda bad :p

[profii]

Profii how the fuck did you not realize NM was stalling to avoid getting trapped by his GS results

Just assumed he was being his usual trolly self

Eventually you have to turn off the playstyle blinders and realize “oh wait that’s a plainly scum move”
Btw FL, I have a couple hydra ideas for you.

of course

I think self reflection says my low risk strategy of letting n_m go round the group meant game apathy increased but I came to the correct decision in the end

[profii]

We demand sass!

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I legit didn’t know no lynch works on 3/6 rather than 4/6

I kinda got so bored of the game I thought the constant no kills = town win but then when Nauci said Draw I was like shit I’m actually have to work this out and I really couldn’t be bothered


If I am being brutally brutally honest I would have liked Akarin to at least question me before voting but on self reflection if I’m not towny enough to make people not bother I’m equally at fault


If gamma wants to shit on me in dead threads he can do that, I’m genuinely not bothered and can happily admit scum played better than I did here but also i won’t forget and I’d point out it says more about you than me

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Profii: What was I supposed to question you about? From where I'm sitting, Creature could have won on the previous day and chose not to. I thought about voting then but decided to go through the rest of both of your ISOs and look at a few key other events and found nothing for you that made me think OBVTOWN! and nothing on Creature that made me think OBVSUCM! so that's when I voted.

You weren't going to convince me of anything at that point, so I saw no point in waiting for you.

I think if you'd made a case on creature (or me) in a way that looks especially towny it would have made me hesitate there, but you had the time and didn't, seemed like you had pretty much checked out of caring. I saw no reason to drag it out.

Yea that’s my point I didn’t make myself look Town so don’t really need to say any more

I put Nauci as MVP for this game

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In my mind I was like vig cop + scum doc + gunsmith could just be setup for fake guilties all over the place

The fact we removed vig, cop and never had a scum doc is beside the point!

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Why does Krazy think I’m dangerous as scum- I suck as scum haha

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it's all relqtive

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