Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Alisae]

Like Mena, read our interactions with the understanding that I am one of the most easy people to emotionally manipulate on site
There is a lot of emotional manipulation that is just geared specifically towards me

Her reads that she recently posted are also geared towards me.

Firebringer has to tell her that she’s flailing and she just needs to find scum because Lexi isn’t being given room to breathe.
Lexi has to say that other townies can think for themselves and not follow me because she isn’t being given room to breathe.
Ari has to come out with this really fucking weird ass defense because he as a person feels so bad for Lexi and he wants to do whatever he can to help her out. She’s probably trying to calm her down in the scum PT and be there for her because Ari is just that nice of a person.

Its all connected dude.

[Alisae]

That moment when you accidentally call Ari a she lmfao
Gimmie a bit I’m still waking up.

But yeah
LLD is scum.
We can’t leash her, thats just not a play.

[Alisae]

Like
I have never seen Ari ever decide to hard defend someone to the point where he points

And LLD should not be lynched

At the bottom of every single one of his posts.
And if ANYONE did that, they would get called out for it.
Its not normal, its weird as fuck.

[Alisae]

ali, werent you talking about not using drafting as reads?

???????????????
Dude why aren’t you voting LLD?

[Alisae]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80863&ppp=200
Reck that link should make the thread 200 posts per page
I don’t know how well this is going to help you, but yeah


Also part of why I really want a lynch is that Reck/Titus can try to use some of the night to catch up without having to worry about a page number increasing

[Alisae]

Reck all I am going to ask of you for now is to use that link I posted in thread and read pages 6-7
Thats uh
Kinda why the game blew up to be so big

[Alisae]

Ur good Alyssa

[Alisae]

Pops should take it imo

[Alisae]

I say this in the nicest way possible but Ari is so obvtown because the amount of stupidity around the LLD wagon is so genuine I doubt he can fake it.

Because I want her too?

[Alisae]

Dunno how that got quoted but ok

[Alisae]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK IS THE ISSUE WITH LLD'S CLAIM? WAS IT COMMUTER? OK SO WHAT
LLD is an enigma wrapped in a mystery pita

I gotchu
1) The game has non-random roles. You mod Reck, would you ever give LLD a full commuter
2) mastina claimed BP vig. Really don’t think thats a town role with this in mind.
3) its a FULL commuter with NO restrictions. LLD can just COMMUTE whenever she wants.
4) A full commuter is something that should be claimed right away. It was kept to her self for a good 48 hours.
5) I have 2 masons. This really doesn’t have to do her claim, but I have 2 masons.

Pedit: Yes mister tree that explains it perfectly

[Alisae]

Eh fuck it
I’ma drop this bomb right now

Jingle gave me a request as to one role that I know will not be in the setup
Anyone wanna guess what that role is?

[Alisae]

Commuter?

WE HAVE A WINNER
WOOOOOOOOT

[Alisae]

Lets lynch LLD before page 100!
Preferably, now!

[Alisae]

Ari
Where’s that vote at
WHERES THAT VOTE AT

[Alisae]

Maybe maybe not

What isn’t a lie is that PEOPLE DON’T PUT FULL COMMUTERS IN GAMES
PEOPLE DON’T EVEN PUT COMMUTERS IN GAMES

I’m pretty sure there are statistics for this as well.

[Alisae]

O wait
People do put commuters in games

But seriously
A full ungated commuter?

[Alisae]

Oh

[Alisae]

T-that kinda stings
I’m kinda a jerk huh

[Alisae]

Sorry

[Alisae]

You’re right
I don’t really know how I can deal with myself as a person now, i feel just, bad
I feel like this isn’t just a game anymore and that its become too personal to the point where I just can’t take it anymore

Sorry

[Alisae]

You’re right
I don’t really know how I can deal with myself as a person now, i feel just, bad
I feel like this isn’t just a game anymore and that its become too personal to the point where I just can’t take it anymore

Sorry

Please stop with the self pity.

Because right now I can't even tell if you're doing this in genuine remorse or as another angleshoot to try and garner sympathy for a wagon.

That's what you've done here. I'm not angry, I'm not enraged I'm not yelling and I'm not insulting you.

You've literally convinced me that this could just be crocodile tears.

When all I want is to tell you it'll be fine.

That's concerning.

I don't know what length you would go to for this game.

It come across as yelling
It comes across as friendship ruining
I come across as a jerk

You make it so hard to make me not think its any of those and that its not a personal attack.
Like its not a personal attack, you just make it seem like it is

[Alisae]

What the FUCK
ERP in MY MAFIA GAME????????????????

[Alisae]

I nominate
Pops!

[Alisae]

I am just gonna leave thread a bit

[Alisae]

Can you answer this first, Ali?

Ali, you know those messages you sent everyone?

Can you do more? Can they contain anything you like?

FUCK OFF
I have too much on my plate atm

[Alisae]

I’m sorry I didn’t mean it like that but just
Leave me alone for a bit please

[Alisae]

Anyhow look
I’m not retracting
Its not fake

[Alisae]

I’m upset but I can’t not post I’M FUCKING ADDICTED

I DON’T KNOW HOW TO STOP

[Alisae]

OH NO

[Alisae]

PINE YOU EVIL SON OF A BITCH

[Alisae]

The fact you can just put a bounty on someone’s head like that is hilarious

[Alisae]

AND ALSO EVIL


DIE YOU STUPID TREE DIE

[Alisae]

OH NO

Oh and one more thing.

I wasn't gonna say this because it felt like piling on when you were acting remorseful, but here is a fun anecdote.

This is the second game you have angleshot at me. First time I forgave it as maybe a mistake of emotion.

This time is a bit harder. Not the least of which because for someone so concerned with being manipulated, you sure seem to do a lot of it yourself. This whole interaction has been you doing exactly what you have done all game.

Cry wolf about things people supposedly do to you while doing them without remorse to others.

???????????????????????????????????

[Alisae]

Here’s a hot take as to why I don’t feel remorse as it try to lynch you in THIS game
YOU CAN THROW THIS ATE AROUND WHEN YOU’RE SCUM
ITS A THING YOU CAN DO
ITS A PLAY YOU CAN MAKE
AND YOU MAKE IT A LOT
BECAUSE TRYING TO LYNCH YOU IS THE MOST MENTALLY TAXING THING EVER


MAYBE
JUST MAYBE
IF THIS WASNT A FACTOR THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN TO YOUR PLAY AS BOTH ALIGNMENTS, THEN IN

THIS

GAME, I COULD FEEL SYMPATHETIC

LEXI WE BOTH UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A GAME
IF YOUR GENERAL STRATEGY IS TO THROW ATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
THEN THE COUNTERPLAY IS TO NOT SHOW SYMPATHY

I, AS THE TOWN INNO TREESTUMP, HAVE TO STAY STRONG MENTALLY, CANNOT BREAK, AND HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON A LYNCH.
ALL OF THAT STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO PUSHING YOU, SOMEONE WHO WILL CONSTANTLY TRY AND BREAK YOU DOWN EMOTIONALLY AND WEAR YOU OUT
I CAN’T FUCKING TAKE IT
I WILL LOSE MY SHIT

I AM SORRY
I CANNOT SHOW YOU SYMPATHY
OTHERWISE I AM TOO WEAK AND CANNOT LEAD THIS TOWN IN A DIRECTION BECAUSE IF I SHOW YOU SYMPATHY, THAT SHOWS THAT I CAN BE BULLIED
AND I CANNOT BE BULLIED AT ALL COSTS
I CAN’T LET THAT SHIT HAPPEN TO ME

[Alisae]

If i decided to just let people walk all over me, then I’ll just be badgered into whatever Pine wants me to do.
Thats a loss

[Alisae]

Y'all are really set on making it impossible to keep up huh

i posted a url that made the gamethread 200 posts per page.
Use that

[Alisae]

You know what I'm done trying to catch up I'll just play from here, and maybe do ISOs if I want/need to.
PEdit: less pages doesn't reduce the time it takes to read

vote lld

[Alisae]

Idunno Ari
Is it a scumslip?

[Alisae]

I just want a lynch
And I want it now
I wanted it before page 100
And I want a lynch now

[Alisae]

Please send this game to the night phase

[Alisae]

Ari
You still wanna push it as a scumslip

[Alisae]

Chennis
Vote
Lld

[Alisae]

Mastina u can shoot ari

[Alisae]

The trade off is an lld lynch

[Alisae]

Can you vote LLD chennis?

[Alisae]

Fire there's a guilty on lld

[Alisae]

who faked a guilty?

There is a guilty
On lld

[Alisae]

lol just head pat ali a bunch grey. Ali is a good boy full of energy.

Yeah yeah go fuck yourself

[Alisae]

LLD
Ari
Xof
DGB
Pink Ball
Chennisden

[Alisae]

actually
I need to start calling Pink Ball Pinky Boy instead
I feel like thats a more appropriate name for him.

pedit: Yes

[Alisae]

Can someone explain how PB is scum
I don't see it at all

pinky boy is just underwhelming

[Alisae]

UNVOTE: all

VOTE: LLD

[Alisae]

GreyICE
Pops
Mena
Formerfish
Firebringer
MariaR
jjh
Gamma Emerald
Iconeum
mastina

[Alisae]

suuuure thing pops, sure thing

it's not because you guys are fucking spamming the entire game

in general, you have been very non involved with the game and kind of just sitting back

[Alisae]

I think your play is more dynamic then just powerscum in the whole town.

[Alisae]

GreyICE
Pops
Mena
Formerfish
Firebringer
MariaR
jjh
Gamma Emerald
Iconeum
mastina

your list is multiplying. I dont think mastina is shooting herself.

thats a town list

[Alisae]

after being comforted by Pine and others in our trashtalk PT

I think I am ready to
KICK
SOME
FUCKING
ASS

[Alisae]

You fucking morons I've been playing differently this game because Alisae SPECIFICALLY ASKED for us to play a certain way not to make things shitty.

I'm so feuas;shdfa'f'sa'j

LIKE OF COURSE I SOUND FAKE, I'VE BEEN LITERALLY CONTROLLING MY POSTS SO NOT TO BREAK THE FUCKING REQUEST WE WERE ASKED.

WOULD YOU PREFER I TELL ALISAE WHO LITERALLY ONE GAME AGO WE PLAYED ALMOST BROKE DOWN BECAUSE I YELLED AT HER, TO GO FUCK HERSELF AND I'M LYNCHING XOF ANYWAY?

I'VE BEEN DOING NOTHING BUT WHAT I LITERALLY ALWAYS DO AS TOWN, HUNT AND PUSH, MUTED AND WATERED DOWN BECAUSE ALISAE ASKED FOR IT.

YOU'RE ALL PIECES OF SHIT FOR TAKING THAT AND USING IT AGAINST ME.

ALISAE DOES IT BY LITERALLY DOING WHAT SHE ASKS US NOT TO DO IN ABSENCE OF US DOING IT.

AND NOW Y'ALL ARE LIKE "OH LLD SOUNDS FAKE" LIKE BITCH MY HUSBAND DIDN'T SOUND LIKE HIMSELF EITHER BUT NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT ME. YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ME, LET'S PLAY A GAME

WHICH OF YOU MORONS NEEDS A FUCKING HISTORY LESSON

I HAVE NEVER BEEN DRAFTED BY SCUM INTO A SCUM TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.

NO SCUM WILL EVER DRAFT ME IN A GAME LIKE THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS DRAW EYES.

DEATHWORLDERS MAFIA: NOT DRAFTED
FIRST PINE GAME: NOT DRAFTED

LIKE

I LITERALLY GOT TAUNTED BY PINE FOR FUCKING BEING UNDRAFTABLE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE ME FUCKING SERIOUSLY AND IGNORED IT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE STUPID FOR EVEN DISCUSSING PINE, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S FUCKING PSYCHIC BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY SAT HERE WITH TWO SCUM UNDER MY BOOT, DOING ACTUAL LITERAL SCUMMY THINGS UNDER MY WATCH, AND Y'ALL LIKE.

"OH YEAH THAT SILLY GIRL SHE'S NOT YELLING MUST BE FAKE"

FUCK YOU ALL.

HEY PEOPLE
ITS ME, ALI
I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IF ANYONE
ANYONE
MADE THIS POST
THEY WOULD GET LYNCHED FOR IT
ON THE SPOT

YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE ITS FUCKING GARBAGE TRASH SCUM PLAY
AND LLD IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME GOD OF SCUMPLAY?

WELL GUESS FUCKING WHAT
LLD IS TRASH
SHE'S WASHED UP

NOW LET'S LYNCH THIS WASHED UP SCUMFUCK

BECAUSE IF ANYONE MADE A POST LIKE THIS
THEY WOULD GET LYNCHED ON IT FOR THE SPOT
AND LLD AIN'T NO FUCKING EXCEPTION
SHE AIN'T SPECIAL JUST BECAUSE SHE HAS A BITE

SO LETS GET
THAT LLD
SCUM LYNCH
RIGHT
FUCKIN
NOW

WOOOOOOOOOOT

[Alisae]

Pops

Can you expand on pops read a bit?

I am fucking PUMPED right now
and let me tell you something

its because THEY'RE FUCKIN TOWN LETS FUCKING GO

[Alisae]

I feel fuckin HYPED right now
I'M READY TO FUCKIN FIGHT

[Alisae]

actually I probably can't handle it

but if I can't handle it
I can't lynch Lexi
and I am filled with determination
so I will fucking try and fight it because
I
NEED
THIS
LYNCH

[Alisae]

and even then
its not FOR her

I am fighting Fire with fire but I'm not fighting her

I'm rallying up the goons
If LLD is gonna use Fire to get people off of her, then I am going to use Fire to get people onto her

[Alisae]

Where's an LLD defender

LLD DEFENDERS
WHERE YOU AT

[Alisae]

no I'm ending this day
I NEED THIS LYNCH MY GUY

[Alisae]

You fucking morons I've been playing differently this game because Alisae SPECIFICALLY ASKED for us to play a certain way not to make things shitty.

I'm so feuas;shdfa'f'sa'j

LIKE OF COURSE I SOUND FAKE, I'VE BEEN LITERALLY CONTROLLING MY POSTS SO NOT TO BREAK THE FUCKING REQUEST WE WERE ASKED.

WOULD YOU PREFER I TELL ALISAE WHO LITERALLY ONE GAME AGO WE PLAYED ALMOST BROKE DOWN BECAUSE I YELLED AT HER, TO GO FUCK HERSELF AND I'M LYNCHING XOF ANYWAY?

I'VE BEEN DOING NOTHING BUT WHAT I LITERALLY ALWAYS DO AS TOWN, HUNT AND PUSH, MUTED AND WATERED DOWN BECAUSE ALISAE ASKED FOR IT.

YOU'RE ALL PIECES OF SHIT FOR TAKING THAT AND USING IT AGAINST ME.

ALISAE DOES IT BY LITERALLY DOING WHAT SHE ASKS US NOT TO DO IN ABSENCE OF US DOING IT.

AND NOW Y'ALL ARE LIKE "OH LLD SOUNDS FAKE" LIKE BITCH MY HUSBAND DIDN'T SOUND LIKE HIMSELF EITHER BUT NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT ME. YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ME, LET'S PLAY A GAME

WHICH OF YOU MORONS NEEDS A FUCKING HISTORY LESSON

I HAVE NEVER BEEN DRAFTED BY SCUM INTO A SCUM TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.

NO SCUM WILL EVER DRAFT ME IN A GAME LIKE THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS DRAW EYES.

DEATHWORLDERS MAFIA: NOT DRAFTED
FIRST PINE GAME: NOT DRAFTED

LIKE

I LITERALLY GOT TAUNTED BY PINE FOR FUCKING BEING UNDRAFTABLE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE ME FUCKING SERIOUSLY AND IGNORED IT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE STUPID FOR EVEN DISCUSSING PINE, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S FUCKING PSYCHIC BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY SAT HERE WITH TWO SCUM UNDER MY BOOT, DOING ACTUAL LITERAL SCUMMY THINGS UNDER MY WATCH, AND Y'ALL LIKE.

"OH YEAH THAT SILLY GIRL SHE'S NOT YELLING MUST BE FAKE"

FUCK YOU ALL.

FIRE
WOLF
BRINGER

You just gonna see Lexi write this and just let it go by?

[Alisae]

Thats not a town post my dude
and just because Lexi wrote it doesn't make her town

[Alisae]

how many I told you so do I get when LLD flips town?

As many as you want my dude

[Alisae]

you can wave it in front of me for the rest of the days I get to live

[Alisae]

Ali. Just go lay down with the cat and shut up for now. Leave this to the rest of us kay?

I'm fuckin HYPED
I WANT BLOOD

[Alisae]

how many I told you so do I get when LLD flips town?

As many as you want my dude

you can wave it in front of me for the rest of the days I get to live

fine. I also want infinite town points even though I am lynching a town read.

then I shall vote LLD.

granted my guy

[Alisae]

WOOT
LETS FUCKING GO

[Alisae]

WHERE'S THE NEXT ONE AT

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

??????????????????????????????????

[Alisae]

Ali pls slow the fuck down because you are making it a challenge to post at all with how often you ninja me

I just had a really awful day
but now I'm better now and I feel happier
but most importantly
I'm hyped to play some FUCKIN MAFIA

and you gonna tell me to chill?

Bruh
I'm fuckin HYPED

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

??????????????????????????????????

get back on there -_-

[Alisae]

I made a promise to Ank

I'll vote LLD when I'm good and ready

Krazy be patient my friend

*sigh*
can you give me an ETA of when you'll be ready?

[Alisae]

an hour or two probably

you can keep campaigning for votes idc

but I'm not ready to end the day RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW

just a couple more hours

oh okay
you're a vote
people will be itching to hammer
I just need one more

[Alisae]

LLD DEFENDERS
WHERE YOU AT

[Alisae]

WHERE YOU AT

[Alisae]

REMEMBER PEOPLE

type in bold

Bargain: Watcher

before you start placing votes

THERE'S A BOUNTY ON LLD'S HEAD
AND IF YOU GET THAT
YOU ABOUTA COLLECT DAT BOUNTY

[Alisae]

You fucking morons I've been playing differently this game because Alisae SPECIFICALLY ASKED for us to play a certain way not to make things shitty.

I'm so feuas;shdfa'f'sa'j

LIKE OF COURSE I SOUND FAKE, I'VE BEEN LITERALLY CONTROLLING MY POSTS SO NOT TO BREAK THE FUCKING REQUEST WE WERE ASKED.

WOULD YOU PREFER I TELL ALISAE WHO LITERALLY ONE GAME AGO WE PLAYED ALMOST BROKE DOWN BECAUSE I YELLED AT HER, TO GO FUCK HERSELF AND I'M LYNCHING XOF ANYWAY?

I'VE BEEN DOING NOTHING BUT WHAT I LITERALLY ALWAYS DO AS TOWN, HUNT AND PUSH, MUTED AND WATERED DOWN BECAUSE ALISAE ASKED FOR IT.

YOU'RE ALL PIECES OF SHIT FOR TAKING THAT AND USING IT AGAINST ME.

ALISAE DOES IT BY LITERALLY DOING WHAT SHE ASKS US NOT TO DO IN ABSENCE OF US DOING IT.

AND NOW Y'ALL ARE LIKE "OH LLD SOUNDS FAKE" LIKE BITCH MY HUSBAND DIDN'T SOUND LIKE HIMSELF EITHER BUT NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THAT.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT ME. YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ME, LET'S PLAY A GAME

WHICH OF YOU MORONS NEEDS A FUCKING HISTORY LESSON

I HAVE NEVER BEEN DRAFTED BY SCUM INTO A SCUM TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.

NO SCUM WILL EVER DRAFT ME IN A GAME LIKE THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS DRAW EYES.

DEATHWORLDERS MAFIA: NOT DRAFTED
FIRST PINE GAME: NOT DRAFTED

LIKE

I LITERALLY GOT TAUNTED BY PINE FOR FUCKING BEING UNDRAFTABLE BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE ME FUCKING SERIOUSLY AND IGNORED IT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE STUPID FOR EVEN DISCUSSING PINE, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S FUCKING PSYCHIC BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY SAT HERE WITH TWO SCUM UNDER MY BOOT, DOING ACTUAL LITERAL SCUMMY THINGS UNDER MY WATCH, AND Y'ALL LIKE.

"OH YEAH THAT SILLY GIRL SHE'S NOT YELLING MUST BE FAKE"

FUCK YOU ALL.

HEY PEOPLE
ITS ME, ALI
I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IF ANYONE
ANYONE
MADE THIS POST
THEY WOULD GET LYNCHED FOR IT
ON THE SPOT

YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE ITS FUCKING GARBAGE TRASH SCUM PLAY
AND LLD IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME GOD OF SCUMPLAY?

WELL GUESS FUCKING WHAT
LLD IS TRASH
SHE'S WASHED UP

NOW LET'S LYNCH THIS WASHED UP SCUMFUCK

BECAUSE IF ANYONE MADE A POST LIKE THIS
THEY WOULD GET LYNCHED ON IT FOR THE SPOT
AND LLD AIN'T NO FUCKING EXCEPTION
SHE AIN'T SPECIAL JUST BECAUSE SHE HAS A BITE

SO LETS GET
THAT LLD
SCUM LYNCH
RIGHT
FUCKIN
NOW

WOOOOOOOOOOT

oh wait a min
I see what I did wrong here

I'ma clearify

this isn't a personal attack

remember kids
attack the play not the player

[Alisae]

okay Pine you're right, give me a bit.

[Alisae]

Lexi

I kind of feel like a dick for somethings
I'm sorry for how things got earlier. I kind of acted irresponsibly and i know I can be manipulative. I should have just owned up to it and said so like a decent human being.

I was in a bad spot all day, I came around, just feeling a bit better just now.

I'm kinda hyped and fired up atm, and I didn't really see what was wrong with that post until I really really looked at it.

I don't want to destroy a friendship with you, you mean a lot to me and I look up to you a lot. I know I don't act like it, but those feelings of deep respect are so there.
I appreciate you a lot, I know I am bad at showing it, but I do.

You're a great player that I have only admiration and respect for.

And I want to lynch you
and I'm fired up
and I wanted a yelling match to have some fun.
I may have went about it poorly, and the adrenaline got a bit too much into my head.

sorry.

[Alisae]

Lexi I hope you can accept that as an apology for all my behavoir today.

I still want a yelling match tho

[Alisae]

i just want a lynch tbh

[Alisae]

LLD DEFENDERS
WHERE U AT

[Alisae]

LLD DEFENDERS
WHERE U AT

Besides Ari who is really defending LLD? Xof?

Chickadee
Icon

[Alisae]

Chennisden who is not voting LLD for some reason even tho he has been badgered multiple times and doesn't say anything about it

Questionable behavoir right there btw

[Alisae]

LLD DEFENDERS
WHERE U AT

Besides Ari who is really defending LLD? Xof?

Chickadee
Icon

Oh... yeah

oh wait I just realized
Chickadee probably ain't moving her vote

[Alisae]

LLD DEFENDERS
WHERE U AT

Besides Ari who is really defending LLD? Xof?

Chickadee
Icon

Oh... yeah

oh wait I just realized
Chickadee probably ain't moving her vote

Not if she wants the 1shit

she wants that neighbourizer

[Alisae]

I just realized that going all hype mode was unneeded because mostly everyone is on board with an LLD wagon and there's a good chunk of people just not posting.

oops


Still want a yelling match tho

[Alisae]

okay it would be a real dick move to lynch her before she said some final words

[Alisae]

Jingle ain't up
ywall got time

[Alisae]

o shit 24 hours before going into night
I forgot that rule was implimented to avoid quicklynches and to make sure everyone got a chance to post

[Alisae]

Using fruit to incentivize people to push through a lynch you want is a dirty move, and you're supposed to be our IC.

Pine was the dirty one who put a bounty on her head

[Alisae]

like thats was just DIRTY

[Alisae]

and also fucking HILARIOUS

[Alisae]

how many votes we at till hammer

[Alisae]

you didn't even fucking bargain the fruit

i'm so FUCKING TRIGGERED atm

HOLY SHIT

[Alisae]

wait it's a fake hammer FF is already on LLD I AM drunk UNVOTE:

ye i knew that

[Alisae]

Pops
how you feel about being exploited?

[Alisae]

Formerfish is that a BDSM video

BDSM in my Mafia game?????????????????

[Alisae]

FORMERFISH
you can't EXPOSE ME TO THAT STUFF

BRUH
I'M INNOCENT

[Alisae]

Formerfish is that a BDSM video

I have no fucking clue what that is, but its auto playing and this shit is horrible

lmfao

[Alisae]

bruh im so high right now

[Alisae]

popsofctown
more like
popsofcbest

[Alisae]

<3 LLD

[Alisae]

Can we have an LLD appreciation page real quickly?

[Alisae]

autoplay on point

GET THAT RICK ROLLIN LOOKIN GUY OUT OF HERE

[Alisae]

Lexi

I kind of feel like a dick for somethings
I'm sorry for how things got earlier. I kind of acted irresponsibly and i know I can be manipulative. I should have just owned up to it and said so like a decent human being.

I was in a bad spot all day, I came around, just feeling a bit better just now.

I'm kinda hyped and fired up atm, and I didn't really see what was wrong with that post until I really really looked at it.

I don't want to destroy a friendship with you, you mean a lot to me and I look up to you a lot. I know I don't act like it, but those feelings of deep respect are so there.
I appreciate you a lot, I know I am bad at showing it, but I do.

You're a great player that I have only admiration and respect for.

And I want to lynch you
and I'm fired up
and I wanted a yelling match to have some fun.
I may have went about it poorly, and the adrenaline got a bit too much into my head.

sorry.

Lexi here are somethings I am thankful for

I am thankful for you getting me straight when it came to the cabd situation and the pie situation and all of that
I am thankful for that one time I was hydraing with Pine and you said something to me when it came to that game and it wasn't cool and that I was out of line.
I am thankful for Guns and Roses where even though you were scum and you fooled me in that game, we were still able to talk about issues and sort them out.
I am thankful for that one time we played waterdeep and Keith and tn and that was a really fun experience
I am appreciative of how you influenced me as a person.
Thank you :3

[Alisae]

Also LLD I'm lynching xofelf tomorrow
I'll follow your heart there regardless of what you flip
its probably flipping scum and your read helped influence that

[Alisae]

wait has hammer been dropped?

[Alisae]

mastina when LLD flips scum
you can shoot Ari

when LLD flips town
you can shoot xofelf

[Alisae]

LLD was hammer
shame no fruit

[Alisae]

I didn't bargain

I tried to hammer specifically because I wanted none of pops/PB/menal to get it

it was super ok for pops to have it

[Alisae]

hard disagree on Ari, mastina

his defense of LLD was not scum defending scum

okay regardless of alignment she can shoot Chennisden

[Alisae]

Ari
Chennisden
Pink Ball
Xofelf

there you go mastina
Those are your shots
happy firing

[Alisae]

YO TEAM
YO

Hear me out
I want ywall to hear me out
I can call people out, but
if you usually like to post a lot
stop posting

Ik its important to get your voice heard and all, but I don't want an additional 50 pages during twilight

lets try to let people catch up now

[Alisae]

lets call it a night
LLD needs to get her last words in
People who are behind need to catch up

[Alisae]

I've been trying to figure out how to say it and I think you realize it, but I feel you really crossed a line with your earlier post towards LLD, Alisae.

No matter how hard you may think she's scum and even if she is, at the end of the day, she is still another player in this game you are playing. I've been coasting in the back seat since the game was developing in the direction I wanted, but I do wish I said something sooner before things reached this point. I whole heartedly believe Lexi to be scum, but that does not mean we degrade her humanity as town. After all, we're not actually lynching someone here.

Hope you don't take this the wrong way, Alisae. ^_^

Pine told me in our trashtalk PT
told me exactly what I did wrong
told me to take a step back a min

I realized what I did wrong there.

[Alisae]

i rly hope LLD accepts my apology
but if she like
hates me and thinks I'm cancer
then yeah I get it I could see why

[Alisae]

shit I'm down

[Alisae]

my fuckin best friend wants to watch anime instead of play league with me
what a loser

[Alisae]

who else is down for some LEAGUE
OF
LEGENDS

[Alisae]

pedit: I really agree with Katsuki that Alisae needs to review the way she's been treating LLD. I'll save some of it for postgame

wait
my apology wasn't good enough

[Alisae]

I am trying like
kinda hard when it comes to that.

Like uuuuuuh
I saw what I did wrong Pine told me
ik I was really out of line this whole day

idunno how to express it other then post what I've currently been posting about the topic

[Alisae]

Stop bullying Alisae
E obviously realizes what e did was wrong, no need to keep sticking it in eir face

no I really fucked up
I deserve like
everything I get

[Alisae]

I let the adrenaline get to my head I said some really bad things.

[Alisae]

I have a bunch of reasons for it
but I don't want to come off as trying to justify it and I just want to own up to it and say I fucked up

[Alisae]

pedit: I really agree with Katsuki that Alisae needs to review the way she's been treating LLD. I'll save some of it for postgame

wait
my apology wasn't good enough

Can;t just cut someone then go stick a band-aid over it and call everything ok.

I know you'll feel bad about it. But the words from your mouth are like water in a basin, once you spill it you can't take it back.

yeah
ik

[Alisae]

at the end of the day I'm a stupid kid

[Alisae]

o ima stop posting about it

[Alisae]

pedit: I really agree with Katsuki that Alisae needs to review the way she's been treating LLD. I'll save some of it for postgame

wait
my apology wasn't good enough

Can;t just cut someone then go stick a band-aid over it and call everything ok.

I know you'll feel bad about it. But the words from your mouth are like water in a basin, once you spill it you can't take it back.

yeah
ik

I am still not sure you understand why claiming mod-info in this game is unsportsmanlike, and how it's therefore natural that LLD found it upsetting.
I am still not sure you wouldn't do it again.
No one needs to apologize twice for anything.
But you apologized about that, then actually doubled down, and then Pine eventually anticonfirmed, and so I don't know whether if I rolled scum and played a reroll of this game with you tomorrow you'd do that again so I'd be playing mafia against 1 slot instead of 20 slots like I signed up for because you think your scumread is better and will lie to force it to be correct play to sheep it.

I don't want to be specific but I have been fake cop guiltied before, I don't want to flame the specific player that did it ettiquette etc.
I think it's really messed up.
I kinda don't care if it's technically legal.
I just think it's messed up.
It's like tackling with intent-to-injure in 1960's football or something if that's considered a component of the game and something players think is ok to do I'm out.

I am thinking about these
and I am getting it

It won't be happening again.

[Alisae]

Ari
Chennisden
Pink Ball
Xofelf

there you go mastina
Those are your shots
happy firing

TOP PREF ARI BUT YOU DECIDE MASTINA

SHOOT THESE

SHOOT ARI THO

[Alisae]

Ari there was a lynch.
Read what you missed.

[Alisae]

public service announcement.

as a person who mods games, pls don't replace out of a game that is over 100 pages. It becomes very hard to find replacements and your being a dick replacing at this point.
take the game slow if you need to

We're going into night.

Something I actually suggest doing is just
not reading D1.
Start fresh on D2 if you've just replaced in

[Alisae]

also lean on me
I can help people catch up or whatever

[Alisae]

public service announcement.

as a person who mods games, pls don't replace out of a game that is over 100 pages. It becomes very hard to find replacements and your being a dick replacing at this point.
take the game slow if you need to

We're going into night.

Something I actually suggest doing is just
not reading D1.
Start fresh on D2 if you've just replaced in

Wait, someone who agrees with my philopsy?

its something I believed in for a very long time

[Alisae]

tbh I replaced into Zaph's game that just ended
didn't read anything
and just sheeped Dunn until it was correct not to sheep Dunn

It worked out

[Alisae]

Ari
Chennisden
Pink Ball
Xofelf

there you go mastina
Those are your shots
happy firing

TOP PREF ARI BUT YOU DECIDE MASTINA

SHOOT THESE

SHOOT ARI THO

[Alisae]

PINE
You NK’d Nacho
When we were ALL excited to play with him
Before he could even post

You ARE evil.

[Alisae]

Anyhow, new day
New me

I’m still rotten to at the core, that’s not being changed in 3 days. That takes time.
I honestly feel nothing but ashamed of myself, and I’m not sure if I’ll be happy with a win, but unlucky, just be a better person next time.

With that said

I think we should lynch VOTE: xofelf if we can’t find the guilty.
The interactions are very SvS from both sides.

I’ll do what I can to not get in the way of actual gamesolving.
I’ll do what I can to let people, play mafia.

[Alisae]

super rushed ISO check I think she crumbed Mastina

Fuck this game.
I am a bodyguard.
I bodyguarded Ankamius last night.

nope
I’m lynching you for this.

[Alisae]

I will help contribute to Alyssa crumb hunting later.

[Alisae]

I feel like I need to be not stoned to contribute in that regard

[Alisae]

Am stoned*
Like holy shit I’m high

[Alisae]

You know what IS the right power to use on Ank N1?A protective, because she will ALWAYS die N1.

You do this everytime you fake claim. Ive seen it a dozen times. You rewrite history of your posts to pertend you crumbed shit. Stop lying.

Yeah if you think that's not a real 'crumb you don't know fucking shit.
I PMd the mod about my role, twice, talking about it. Once was telling Jingle "You know I'll never get a successful protection off, right?"
The other was exactly that: telling him, "You know what IS the right role to use on Ank N1?" more or less.
Then there was also submitting the night action where I said that Pine was probably killing someone he thought was a mason, but fuckit, that I was protecting Ank because I wouldn't be able to predict who he'd kill when mason-hunting but COULD predict who would be a probable nightkill.

There is no other player in the game who I would've protected N1.

Least of all given she was my second strongest townread D1.

You are lying.

+1

[Alisae]

Ank definitely did crumb something
I am 100% convinced that she did.

I’m stupid and dense tho so I’m not figuring it out even when I’m sober
But I have to try.
So I will tomorrow

[Alisae]

I definitely don't crumb anything

solved the case boys

yes, you indicated a signal.
Thank you Dann for this very helpful contribution.

[Alisae]

2 dead, mastina now claims bodyguard, and guarded one of the dead people who ended up being a hider who dies when hiding behind scum.

Are we assuming that Nacho was the scum kill and that Ank died from hiding and not from other means?

wat

[Alisae]

holy on i’m stoned nvm dude

[Alisae]

I thought Ank was the scum kill before I saw the hider

Nacho is a strange scum kill ??

nacho is a good scum kill.
killing replacements is like a scum mo in most games on site.

how have u not picked up on that?

cause it was a terrible slot imo

unless the replacement is literally RC it feels weird

bruh
Its nacho

[Alisae]

I am so mentally challenged
Fucking lmao

[Alisae]

It was like the optimal scum NK you fools

yeah because you made it
Duh

[Alisae]

what was the logic behind xof being scum again? are we thinking LLD was bussing because i don't really see that rn.

dude she was definitely bussing.
Also look at Xof’s read on her.
Its not really good at all.

[Alisae]

Like, I think the incentive for LLD to bus xof like that is really high
And I think Xof’s read on her, and Xof’s comments about the commuter claim, were definitely not a good look for her.

Also that case that LLD posted on Xof totally applies to her last post.

[Alisae]

I missed, but seeing what the deaths were I don't feel like I had a good shot of predicting the kill.

Predicting the kill is pretty hard with so many people anyway.

I should probably claim my target anyway right? Never rolled watcher before.

did you use it?

[Alisae]

Oh wait yeah you used it HOLY FUCK

[Alisae]

Of course I did it's use it or lose it

I'm like 90% sure it's correct to claim who I watched and got no results on, but I'm just confirming.

riiiight
Sure

[Alisae]

Of course I did it's use it or lose it

I'm like 90% sure it's correct to claim who I watched and got no results on, but I'm just confirming.

riiiight
Sure

what is there to even be skeptical about here

dude i’m just stoned

[Alisae]

Alisae, you know I'm bad at mechanics, I lynched conftown in G&R :/

I
AM
STONED

[Alisae]

I assume the scumteam shot Nacho. Fuckers.

Goddamn it.

Our vig is also apparently on crack. To the point if it wasn't literally mod-confirmed otherwise I'd assume they're a serial killer. Still might assume it's a scum vig honestly.

Ank flipped hider??????????????????

Pedit: o you noticed

[Alisae]

Alright it looks like there's already been some discussion on whether Ank has a comprehensible crumb. I'm not sure my theory is better than anyone else's but I figure it's at least worth asking about.

Ankamius
Alisae
Chickadee
Aristophanes
The worst
Firebringer
Greyice
Skygazer
MariaR
Untrod Tripod
Krazy
DrippingGoofball
Xofelf
Pink Ball
Katsuki
Formerfish
PenguinPower
Jjh927
Popsofctown
Gamma Emerald
Iconeum
Dannflor
Mastina
chennisden
Menalque
Lady Lambdadelta
Pine

Roughly where my reads are at atm

4. I'm pretty much always a nightkill by scum this game as town, most likely in midgame somewhere before I hit my stride and start hitting outright solves. I'd be surprised if scum didn't have at least one person that was aware of this, and Pine has seen a recent enough example to believe it.

5. Alisae, this is specifically to you: I've literally never played with Menalque before. I don't know how he plays. He fits the specific type of player I've been trying to hunt for because the way I'm seeing the game, that specific type is the most likely to hold scum. His response to me was horrific. At best, he has a playstyle that will always result in false positives for me, but I don't actually understand what about him is townreadable unless he just has one of those weird playstyles I can't actually read.

1906 is Ank's longest post, and she spends a whole point emphasizing how likely she is to be killed at night, and then immediately follows it with a discussion of Menalque and how difficult it is to read him, specifically calling out Alisae. I'm just saying, given 1906 is Ank's longest post, she wanted Mena basically all day, but she also wanted him gone *in part because she felt he was unreadable* he sounds like someone she would be very inclined to want a mech result on, unlike other people who she only mentioned in passing. Additionally, given her reads list on 1548, there's no reason to think she would have had an incentive to seriously reconsider her reads after LLD's flip.

I say this as someone who spent day 1 mostly townreading Menalque, and I am well aware I could be wrong here. But she was still scumreading Mena late into the day and ultimately I've only played with scum Mena once so I have to consider I was just wrong there.

Obviously other people have theories on what might have been Ank's most likely crumb, but overall I think ignoring Ank's actually likely targets is a bad idea. In any case I do see there being likely opposed candidates for crumbs from later in the day but to me this really looks like a Mena check.

VOTE: Mena

I like this theory.

[Alisae]

Scum!Krazy jumping on the LLD wagon since the beginning before I posted endorsing it?
Idunno dude, I’m not exactly sure about that.

[Alisae]

mastina, i hope u didn't actually copy and paste your role pm in here, because i don't think that's kosher regardless of mod rules.

varsoon literally got banned a few months ago doing that.

and varsoon made an argument that the rules didn't say he couldn't copy and paste his role pm as reason for why he could do it, btw.

are we really talking about this.

[Alisae]

You literally could have asked Jingle for a fakeclaim of that natur-

Oh fuck it
Maybe mastina could be town?

This angleshooting feels town.

[Alisae]

Okay I guess the "personalized role PM" thing never happened
I checked Ank's flip and the role wasn't woven in the flavor in any way
But there's the fact that Mastina had that available to just change to a bodyguard role PM so I'm not convinced by usage of the role PM to prove anything

we scrapped the personalized role pms and instead we’re doing our messages.
Me and Pine can send those out.

[Alisae]

Like, I think the incentive for LLD to bus xof like that is really high
And I think Xof’s read on her, and Xof’s comments about the commuter claim, were definitely not a good look for her.

Also that case that LLD posted on Xof totally applies to her last post.

omg DUDE
FIRE

[Alisae]

I think it's possible Ank just didn't crumb.

I don't think she was suicidal. I think she wanted to come out with a secret town read inno (or maybe two if she could get away with another night) that would strengthen her read list and start solving the game. She specifically asked for Mastina and mine's lists before the day ended yesterday. Her delaying her own reads list did seem strategic, and I think she was waiting for her result to come through. She just didn't expect to die at all and thus didn't crumb it.

idk maybe that's not giving Ank enough credit

tbh, thinking about doing the bitch move and that is defaulting to this

[Alisae]

Pops why MariaR?

[Alisae]

I don't think that LLD is scum, I legitimately don't. Yes she is a force of goddamn nature who will do anything and everything to further her own win condition, but I think she's on our side. Her reactions to everything don't read to me like a caught scumLLD, but a genuinely frustrated and upset LLD who is feeling attacked and with only so much she can actually do to defend herself. I don't know anything about the role she's actually claimed, and it's possible that's a lie, but her behaviour just doesn't have the underlying feel to it when she's lying and manipulating to get one over on you.

So I've seen people call this out as why xof is scum. Can I get some background of why?
@Dann yeah probably, but either we isolate one suspect now or we can determine a pool to work with going forward.

Read the whole post, and tell me which one of those things in that post just doesn’t belong

[Alisae]

Like what thing in that post Gamma is not like the other.

[Alisae]

Your jojo reference is

[Alisae]

@Penguin: I know I'm not voting and you'd rather I was. I'm not the kind of person who votes all willy-nilly. I tend to only vote when I feel confident where I'm voting is scum, or to reaction test to what I say my reasons are for voting that slot. Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages, I don't want to have a vote somewhere I'm not confident in and to come back and find my vote helped a lynch happen that I didn't want to have happen.

Warmer.
Why did she write that paragraph in the first place?

[Alisae]

Or actually the fact she directly addresses Penguin like that

Warmer

[Alisae]

The mistake is that part 5 is garbage

[Alisae]

Part 5 was my first real taste of jojos
Sure it was fun to watch
But I don’t think its actually any good.

[Alisae]

I heard that it just had new characters and wasn’t really about the latest parts, so I don’t see the harm in it.

Ik the older jojos were better but I was interested in what part 5 was like specifically

[Alisae]

She posted that response to Penguin to address her not voting silly Billy. That seems consistent? What am I missing?

You’re half way there!
We established that PP wrote a post that had her not voting and told her to do something.

I can’t lead you the rest of the way there, but the issue is not the consistency.
I think the last think I can say to help you figure this out is
Why does she feel like she has to respond to that PP post?

[Alisae]

Okay hi, so, I am very aware that posts I've made as well as how few there have quite a few of you wholly convinced that I'm scum that needs to die asap. And I can definitely see why you all would think that. But I'm not. I did believe that LLD was town, I was wrong, and I can see where how I stated what I was thinking and why would look like I was scum defending my scum buddy, but I wasn't. I was giving my perspective on one of the few people in this playerlist I have any familiarity with, without really considering that it might look less than genuine. even if I wasn't rusty at mafia, I'm just really bad at it. And this particular game has gone so goddamn fast that keeping on top of it has been quite a chore. I'm aware that I'm in a problem of my own making, and I honestly don't expect to be able to convince many of you that I'm not scum because fuck I walked myself right some bullshit. And it's not exactly been easy to figure out what to say to actually get myself out of it without getting into a worse pickle, and the thread went some places during the last day that reminded me why I don't play and why this game isn't always fun, but I am here anyways and I want to actually contribute in some way that actually matters. Lynching me isn't going to do that. I'm not scum, and I'm not even useful town. I get it if y'all want to lynch me anyways, but I'm telling you, it's a waste of a day where we can actually be scumhunting and eliminating someone who will actually matter if they go, cuz me leaving doesn't help anybody.

Also @Grey, as I'm reading, I try to remember to respond to comments specifically directed at me when I do make a post especially if it's something that isn't going to take a long response.

@Ari: I didn't mention Chickadee and feeling weird about her still because the more she posted the less I felt weirdly about her. But I probably should have updated about that, you're right.

Xof, have you read the game overnight? Any amount is fine its just have you read anything.
Do you have any thoughts that you would like to add?

[Alisae]

Hello:

Not Voting (5): xofelf, UntrodTripod, Formerfish, Aristophanes, ankamius,

Do something.

And, you're welcome, Jingle.

So xof has to be responding to this post there, no other PP post is aimed at xof. Fyi for now I should be fine without spending more Hint Coins

thanks, I think you’re town, so I don’t want to tell you the answers because I want you to discover them.
Discovery leaves way more of an impact then just being spoonfed.

But if you need me to, I can tell you the answer.

[Alisae]

Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages

This is the issue, final answer. Xofelf came out to respond to PP rather than do what she described.
Inb4 it's wrong and I lose Picarats

close enough.
the answer is on the same page as the xof post
its a good post and I agree with it.

[Alisae]

@Ali, I have been reading the game, yes. I haven't reread since LLD's flip because frankly, being able to step away from the game without feeling stressed about the fact I'm not posting in it and being worried about being wrong or stupid for what I think, was a welcome change. I need to do some rereading with the new information flips gave us, but I'm not really sure what I think about anything. A lot of reactions and interactions weren't the most comfortable to be around. But it's also really late and I should sleep and look at this when I'm actually somewhat coherent.

okay, is it possible I will be able to see any content tonight? Like some reads would be nice

[Alisae]

@Penguin: I know I'm not voting and you'd rather I was. I'm not the kind of person who votes all willy-nilly. I tend to only vote when I feel confident where I'm voting is scum, or to reaction test to what I say my reasons are for voting that slot. Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages, I don't want to have a vote somewhere I'm not confident in and to come back and find my vote helped a lynch happen that I didn't want to have happen.

Christ I was like "who the fuck is Penguin?" Then I discovered this ISO:

viewtopic.php?t=80863&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

Are you seriously responding to THIS POST?

Hello:

Not Voting (5): xofelf, UntrodTripod, Formerfish, Aristophanes, ankamius,

Do something.

And, you're welcome, Jingle.

The only way you found that was if you used the search function in this thread for every mention of your name. Um... what. The. Fuck. Are. You. Doing.

Aha! Now I get it, I agree it's kinda shady. Not sure if it's super damning though.

Well given the LLD defense and that LLD was probably bussing,
and now you have a slot that has very high scum equitity.

[Alisae]

@jjh: I don't know. There's people saying and doing things that I don't quite get why, but I don't know how much of that is just me not being familiar with them as players and thinking that way, or if they're actually scum. I'm sorry I don't have actual names to give to you right now at 4 am.

@Ali, I will try to give actual content, yes. I'm not a readslist player though. I observe and I give my perceptions and ask questions and give responses when asked for them. But the amount of posts people have been putting into this game is a lot more than I am used to and I'm aware I am falling behind and looking worse and worse by what I do give and how.

was there anything that stood out while you read?

[Alisae]

PINE
You NK’d Nacho
When we were ALL excited to play with him
Before he could even post

You ARE evil.

Curious. We didn’t, actually. There’s a Vig out there with shit aim.

We no-killed to fuck with you.

yeah sure dude whatever you say

[Alisae]

PINE
You NK’d Nacho
When we were ALL excited to play with him
Before he could even post

You ARE evil.

Curious. We didn’t, actually. There’s a Vig out there with shit aim.

We no-killed to fuck with you.

I really don't buy this.

Yeah dude, there's no vig.
I say shoot Ari.
They shoot Nacho instead
??????????????????????????????????

[Alisae]

mastina, am I allowed to leash you?

[Alisae]

hey guys
who wants a powerpoint presentation on why xofelf is scum

I know I do!

[Alisae]

I'll do a PowerPoint on why xofelf is scum sure

no because my powerpoint presentation will be better! D;

[Alisae]

Powerpoint Presentation will be posted when I feel comfortable ending the day.
That time is not now, its not ready yet (obv) and More players need to check in and post.

[Alisae]

omg Titus content
im hyyyyyyyyyyyyped

[Alisae]

Titus I’ma let you finish

But
When you’re done
What do you think of DGB

[Alisae]

What are you seeing that suggests ank hid behind mastina?

[Alisae]

If DGB has been here since the start, I'd lynch there but not lead it.

yeah she has.
Cool, we’re on the same page

[Alisae]

Can you also ISO xofelf?

[Alisae]

Can you also ISO xofelf?

Based on xofelf early interaction with LLD and her defense of LLD after what I think was the choice to hard bus, I'd say less likely scum.

LLD probably has 1-2 scum on her wagon but not no more.

[Alisae]

Can you also ISO xofelf?

Based on xofelf early interaction with LLD and her defense of LLD after what I think was the choice to hard bus, I'd say less likely scum.

LLD probably has 1-2 scum on her wagon but not no more.

Strongly disagree. LLD is widely regarded as an elite player and has no counter wagon on day 1.

yes because I was shoving it down people’s throats and not allowing anything else to come up.
If anything, the bus is on the tail end.

[Alisae]

Can you also ISO xofelf?

Based on xofelf early interaction with LLD and her defense of LLD after what I think was the choice to hard bus, I'd say less likely scum.

LLD probably has 1-2 scum on her wagon but not no more.

Strongly disagree. LLD is widely regarded as an elite player and has no counter wagon on day 1.

yes because I was shoving it down people’s throats and not allowing anything else to come up.
If anything, the bus is on the tail end.

Alisae, sheer force of will, even from conftown does not always prevent counters. The bus might be on the end. That I wouldn't know exactly. I just am pretty sure we should find at least 3 scum on LLD's wagon. (I believe there's 7 total right?).

6
Pine is a Treestump and that number includes him.