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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:27 am

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In post 424, havingfitz wrote:Cthulu
either switched things up and visitied Ika or was killed to implicate
me.  Varian most likely visited Ika.....whom he was voting for the
majority of D1.


Cool cuz I don't need to fabricate anything when you continue to cast doubt on the plan. Saying that Cthulu could visit Ika is misdirection. It throws dirt on the plan whenever we have a quote from Cthulu saying he was following the list.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:12 am

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Haven't read most of the day so I'm sure I'm just repeating what's been said but

Well, we know that Cthulhu visited fitz because he said he was going to. Probably safe to assume Ponystar visited REM. Varian is a bit trickier. I was hoping his last few posts would have some sort of hint in it as to who he inspected, but at the very least there's nothing I can see. Probably inspected Ika? If he inspected Ika, scum HAS to be fitz and REM because ika can't have armed as scum - before ending night, the mod said he was prodding ika, so ika can't have sent in an action. Kind of a crappy way to eliminate someone as scum, but it would be stupid to ignore it. The only other real possibility is that Varian inspected either fitz or REM and that scum got a 2-for-1 special. This was the last thing Varian said about REM, unless you include this. Both of those indicate that Varian wasn't particularly suspicious of REM. The latter also indicates that Varian was probably not particularly suspicious of fitz (Varian never gave an opinion specifically on fitz). So yeah, unless, Ponystar visited someone he wasn't supposed to, the most likely scenario is that Varian did cop ika and got killed, while fitz and REM both armed and venged their visitors.

But I want to actually read what's been said today before voting, in case I'm missing something. Will read soon-ish.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:45 pm

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Marcell did say that he was waiting for Ika, didn't he? So theoretically, he could've armed. Though, it's nearly impossible to know who exactly Varian targeted. I don't think both scum would activate their powers, so I'm kinda guessing a 2 for 1 special.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:03 pm

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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:26 pm

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In post 427, RapidEyeMovement wrote:Marcell did say that he was waiting for Ika, didn't he? So theoretically, he could've armed. Though, it's nearly impossible to know who exactly Varian targeted. I don't think both scum would activate their powers, so I'm kinda guessing a 2 for 1 special.


realisticly speaking arming is not a required action.

if that was why he prodded me that would basicly be mod influence on the game.

can we drop this line of mod dicusiona anyway didnt want to bring it up cus it is doing exactly what i wanted to avoid. mod gaming
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:58 am

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I disagree with REM - the other scum couldn't have been jail-kept, and I think it's unlikely two people visited the same scum. I think both armed. However, the arming is one-shot, yeah? Lynch REM, REM flips scum, jail fitz and then we'll know what's happening with shots/kills. I'm not sure we can get much more info out of today :S
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:44 am

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In post 426, -hugs- wrote:the most likely scenario is that Varian did cop ika and got killed, while fitz and REM both armed and venged their visitors.

I agree with this assessment aside from the fact that Cthulu was not venged. He came across very townie, to me at least, and killing him would serve the purpose to both implicate me AND rid scum of a town threat. I think Ika was getting heat from Varian so had to have felt some pressure, and if he armed...stood the chance at getting rid of a town read (IMO) - ASP (if the plan was followed) AND potentially drawing a visit. Rem was getting a lot of heat D1 as well and would have definitely armed.

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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:55 am

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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:45 am

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In post 429, ika wrote:
In post 427, RapidEyeMovement wrote:Marcell did say that he was waiting for Ika, didn't he? So theoretically, he could've armed. Though, it's nearly impossible to know who exactly Varian targeted. I don't think both scum would activate their powers, so I'm kinda guessing a 2 for 1 special.


realisticly speaking arming is not a required action.

if that was why he prodded me that would basicly be mod influence on the game.

can we drop this line of mod dicusiona anyway didnt want to bring it up cus it is doing exactly what i wanted to avoid. mod gaming

Everyone in this game takes an action so prodding someone only means they did not take an action.

Also I forgot my own rule so uh.. yeah. Did that wrong. Anyways, mans nothing.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:27 am

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Yeah, you have to visit someone...
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:52 am

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In post 433, Marcrell wrote:
Everyone in this game takes an action so
prodding someone only means they did not take an action.


Also I forgot my own rule so uh.. yeah. Did that wrong.
Anyways, mans nothing.
These two statements are in direct contradiction. If you were a player in this game, I'd vote you.



Both Ponystar and Cthulhu would have been plausible night kills in order to frame REM/fitz respectively and either of them being killed almost certainly means one scum got 2 vengekills imo. Varian inspecting either of those players would of course not be out of the question at all, as both were likely lynch candidates for later days, but...I don't know.

Vote: havingfitz
, I guess

Regardless of whether or not both scum armed last night, everyone can just visit ASP tonight, since he's an uncounterclaimed jailkeeper.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:48 am

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In post 430, Bellaphant wrote:I disagree with REM - the other scum couldn't have been jail-kept, and I think it's unlikely two people visited the same scum. I think both armed. However, the arming is one-shot, yeah? Lynch REM, REM flips scum, jail fitz and then we'll know what's happening with shots/kills. I'm not sure we can get much more info out of today :S


Scum doesn't have to arm. It's also not unlikely at all that the PR visited someone suspicious. Why would both scum arm and give themselves away? I think the least likely scenario is a REM/Fitz scumteam. Fitz/Bella, I could get behind.

Bella, you're not concerned with MYLO. You want me to flip, but you're not showing initiative to put your vote on me. You're the other scum that didn't arm last night. You got JK'd. But Fitz sent in the action because someone that arms themselves gets the NK action through no matter what. Next night, you can arm yourself and get your action through no matter what.

So yeah. There's a scenario (that did happen) of scum being jk'd. It's not that out of the question that it happened either.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:08 am

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' But Fitz sent in the action because someone that arms themselves gets the NK action through no matter what'


Is that true? Coz I've played this twice now and didn't know that.

Also, I am concerned, hence not speed-lynching anyone. As far as I'm concerned it's you, and then fitz/ika as your buddy, with hugs as an outside chance. You don't have a case on me, you just want to keep yelling that I'm scum so you can avoid talking about your scum-buddy.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:16 am

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bella can you hammer plz?
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:24 am

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Can we lynch fitz tomorrow, then? I think town has this.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:24 am

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ebwop lynch not!fitz (rem) tomorrow then?
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:03 am

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Lynch REM roday, Fitz tomorrow. Ika's insistence on Fitz over REM scares me into thinking he and REM might be partners framing.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:03 am

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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:10 am

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Ok, I'm gonna vote REM and see if ika hammers. That seems the best way to tell? SP, you are conf-town, does that work for you?
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:11 am

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Fair enough.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:13 am

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VOTE: REM

Rem was baiting me into voting him and ika was asking me to vote fitz. Ugh.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:37 am

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Votecount 2.05
havingfitz: Ika, RapidEyeMovement, -hugs- (L-1)
RapidEyeMovement: A Simple Plan, havingfitz, Bellaphant (L-1)
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:04 pm

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I am not scum. Ffs...someone please unvote me before a hammer is dropped. If I'm lynched town loses.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:49 pm

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I'm kinda tempted to either hammer REM or unvote since the 2 people voting him who aren't you are almost definitely town. But idk. Decisions...
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:29 pm

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In post 447, havingfitz wrote:I am not scum. Ffs...someone please unvote me before a hammer is dropped. If I'm lynched town loses.


^scum fail

i refuse to move my god damn vote. and if this seriosuly goes to a god damn no-lynch i will out of the gate vote fitz

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