Guns & Roses II [Game Over]

[Alisae]

if anything, I think the idea of "Fire is scum because his claim is pro-scum and his strategy is pro-scum because it has no use for town" is fairly easy to push, especially if you randed scum and thats the first thing you see.

Like, the thread just opened, and you see Fire's post, You're scum, and you wanna post.
Well now you have a free read to push that was practically handed to you like candy.

basically, Fire's post is the definition of a post that scum will jump on like dogs to a bone

This is also why Pine is scum

[TiphaineDeath]

Also it's, ya' know, scummy AF.

[Alisae]

Also like, Pine is scum because this is always faked and his strenght and confidence is really strong in these reads when its really impossible for it to be if he were town

There are 3

Town

Roses

remaining.

Oh shit what the actual fuck

all roses claim day 1. if there are more than 3 claims, then we lynch in the roses to find the liar. if not more than 3. we have ICs.

Good plan

That is an AWFUL plan.

VOTE: Firebringer

VOTE: creature

every claim helps mafia.

Yeah, this. Even "I'm going to shoot X" comments help scum narrow down who the Roses are.

Last game, when we had 1 Gun and 9 Roses, this didn't matter. Right now, though, we need to

protect and conceal

the Roses.

pine we have one outed rose

what do you think of a semi mass claim tmrw, where we start with scummy peoples and cut it off whenever we feel like we are in a good spot?

It's an awful idea

scum have a secondary wincon. Claiming helps scum, and does

nothing

for Town

and these posts are also faked and just flatout look bad

Town should agree on like one or two people to shoot at the end of the day and all N1 guns should be aiming towards them.

No like let the roses claim.
And we shoot in everywhere else.

If there are more roses claims that is our Poe pool for lynching

Wait a sec, this idea isn’t completely awful. It might legit break the game

It needs consideration when I’m not just getting out of the shower

UNVOTE:

Town should agree on like one or two people to shoot at the end of the day and all N1 guns should be aiming towards them.

No like let the roses claim.
And we shoot in everywhere else.

If there are more roses claims that is our Poe pool for lynching

Wait a sec, this idea isn’t completely awful. It might legit break the game

It needs consideration when I’m not just getting out of the shower

UNVOTE:

Mafia will have a bunch of vigs though

Town should agree on like one or two people to shoot at the end of the day and all N1 guns should be aiming towards them.

No like let the roses claim.
And we shoot in everywhere else.

If there are more roses claims that is our Poe pool for lynching

Wait a sec, this idea isn’t completely awful. It might legit break the game

It needs consideration when I’m not just getting out of the shower

UNVOTE:

Mafia can probably shoot multiple roses within the first two nights. Please no.

lets do this bitmap
VOTE: chennisden

++Town

Yup you’re right. Didn’t account for scum Guns. Too risky. Post-shower brain, disregard.

VOTE: Firebringer

and then this post honestly just confirms it

VOTE: Croag

Solve looks like Croag, Firebringer, pops.

I don’t see the TD problem.

Like, where did his Fire push go that he suddenly decided to give up on?
Like I get his read is still there, but this post is so out of place it doesn't make sense and I'm a firm believer that this post is actually meant to fuck with people
I willing to bet that none of these (the bolded) are scum.
And if TD actually does flip scum, it makes sense that Pine is also scum here too.
In fact, this post really suggests "lynch Pine first"
so I am going to move my vote there right now
VOTE: Pine

[Alisae]

@Creature and everyone
we lynch Pine today i think

[Alisae]

Like, Dunn is connected to Pine probably
and the fact Pine doesn't mention Pine probably means that Pine is connected to Dunn and thats only because of Pine's meta and if Pine is scum, he probably didn't mention his 3rd buddy in that post, so the next reasonable conclusion is that the person Pine isn't mentioning is Dunn or lmao since I am a very firm believer in that all of the people who I said are definitely town are in fact, definitely town

[popsofctown]

I kinda buy that the condescending mechanics posts would come from both flavors of Pine but your point about it being implausible that he's solved the game so quickly is persuasive.

Particularly scumreading me on so few posts wtf.

Creature townread me on almost no posts too.

But, I dunno, it's creature, he plays the game in creatury ways sometimes.

[Alisae]

Like, Dunn is connected to Pine probably
and the fact Pine doesn't mention

Dunn

probably means that Pine is connected to Dunn and thats only because of Pine's meta and if Pine is scum, he probably didn't mention his 3rd buddy in that post, so the next reasonable conclusion is that the person Pine isn't mentioning is Dunn or lmao since I am a very firm believer in that all of the people who I said are definitely town are in fact, definitely town

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[popsofctown]

Like, Dunn is connected to Pine probably
and the fact Pine doesn't mention Pine probably means that Pine is connected to Dunn and thats only because of Pine's meta and if Pine is scum, he probably didn't mention his 3rd buddy in that post, so the next reasonable conclusion is that the person Pine isn't mentioning is Dunn or lmao since I am a very firm believer in that all of the people who I said are definitely town are in fact, definitely town

Does anyone else watch Ali's avatar and imagine it saying all of the words out loud?

Oh just me?

Nevermind

[Alisae]

I kinda buy that the condescending mechanics posts would come from both flavors of Pine but your point about it being implausible that he's solved the game so quickly is persuasive.

Particularly scumreading me on so few posts wtf.

Creature townread me on almost no posts too.

But, I dunno, it's creature, he plays the game in creatury ways sometimes.

im pretty sure this is creature's towngame

[Creature]

VOTE: Pine

[Bitmap]

I don't agree on Dunnstral-kun being scum.

However, I like the Pine scum idea.

VOTE: Pine

[Alisae]

I don't agree on Dunnstral-kun being scum.

i don't get this mostly cuz I rly don't think anything he posted is impossible for him to fake

[Bitmap]

I don't agree on Dunnstral-kun being scum.

i don't get this mostly cuz I rly don't think anything he posted is impossible for him to fake

ok

doesn't mean it's not legit though, and my TR on him can flip anytime based on my bipolar reads.

[Alisae]

well either way ur fine so u can keep doing u
as long as all 5 people who I want to die are flipped the game is in a okay state

[Alisae]

I'm also gonna towncase everyone I TR because I want people to care about what I said if I do die so here I go

WOOOT WOOT I GOT SCUM GUYS

Town.

all roses claim day 1. if there are more than 3 claims, then we lynch in the roses to find the liar. if not more than 3. we have ICs.

Good plan

Shit plan. Town read.

all roses claim day 1. if there are more than 3 claims, then we lynch in the roses to find the liar. if not more than 3. we have ICs.

Good plan

That is an AWFUL plan.

VOTE: Firebringer

Scum read.

Hey Creature

HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS GAME?

Scum read.

I think I'm shooting chennisden tonight

I love you.

VOTE: creature

every claim helps mafia.

Scum read.

Not necessarily. N1 Rose is a solid choice.

VOTE: Firebringer
Chenn can die too

Slight town read.

The less chenn talks, the higher his win %

Yes.

Talking about mechanics this early kills scumhunting

What needs to be said (and a lot that didn't need to be said) has been said.

ur scum

{Pine}
{Creature Dunn}
{everyone else}
{FB}

Who even does a reads list this early?

I know I am playing this game right when chennisden scumreads me

I love you.

VOTE: chennisden

This is scum. Wagon up bois.

I really feel like this post comes from town because Bitmap is going in gun blazing with a bunch of reads on people with very little reasoning as to why, and I feel like I catch-up in a way thats sorta like this, and he feels like he would be the type of person who would catch-up this way as town > scum.
I feel like its pretty easy to misjudge this as a scumpost but the why just doesn't really make sense for why this would actually be a scumpost.
It just kinda makes more sense from town imo

--

There are 3

Town

Roses

remaining.

tOwN iS tHrOwInG1!1!1!

I dunno, a better question would be why I put Creature as town when I was scumreading him 2 pages ago.

can u stop being obv scum?

I need a challenge for once.

Like in these 2 posts here, I don't feel like bitmap would fake these if he was scum

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Town should agree on like one or two people to shoot at the end of the day and all N1 guns should be aiming towards them.

No like let the roses claim.
And we shoot in everywhere else.

If there are more roses claims that is our Poe pool for lynching

Wait a sec, this idea isn’t completely awful. It might legit break the game

It needs consideration when I’m not just getting out of the shower

UNVOTE:

Mafia can probably shoot multiple roses within the first two nights. Please no.

And in this post, he doesn't realize that rose gives total immunity on the night they picked so there's no way for a rose to die on the night he picked and as scum I think he would have realized that by now.

[Creature]

The first point I don't really see anything special.

The second point I can actually see that.

The third point I think shouldn't be actually AI.

[Alisae]

The first point I don't really see anything special.

The second point I can actually see that.

The third point I think shouldn't be actually AI.

I mean our answers are still the same so I don't see the diff it makes when it comes to how we go there

[TiphaineDeath]

Yo, alisae, scumslip>all it's not that hard to understand.

[Alisae]

Creature as long as your the sane person to keep me in check im happy

[Alisae]

Yo, alisae, scumslip>all it's not that hard to understand.

yo, TD, your scum

[Alisae]

I don’t see the TD problem.

I figured out this bullshit and what I feel like Pine is trying to accomplish here, and yeah I do feel like it points more in favor of them being buddies.

The reason why I don't feel like Pine is trying to get more votes onto TD here without really pushing the read (because he knows that he's in the solve, he's not an idiot) is because it makes no sense? The same effect is caused by putting a vote on the slot, and it could be possible he thinks he might get pressured for putting a vote on TD? Like, if this is trying to get TD lynched, the same effected is caused by putting a vote on him.

Now if TD was scum, this phrase is probably mean to fuck with people to make TD look town and was meant to put him under the limelight i think.
And Pine can fake this, so don't TR him just because it could seem like he doesn't know why TD is being wagoned.

And TD is just individually scummy
so my solve is {TD, Pine, Dunn} but I can see lmao or Croag being here.

We just lynch Pine because he is scum and his flip breaks the game open tbh.

[Creature]

so my solve is {TD, Pine,

Dunn

}

Waaaaait

[popsofctown]

The first point I don't really see anything special.

The second point I can actually see that.

The third point I think shouldn't be actually AI.

[Alisae]

pops is town because in this post, I buy their hesitation on TD here, and the way they bring up that they feel the game isn't solved I buy

Chen has the most posts and I think I townread the slot.

In the more general sense I don't get calling the game "solved" when you get reads off of people on 1-2 posts each? Maybe this is that I am old-fashioned or don't understand site meta or something but I would think that's something you say when your reads are very very confident. Like there is two scums left to lynch and you hard scumread one of them and gunsmithed the other one.

I nodded along with the TD votes but then he seemed to be pretty earnest in sorting chennisden (into the wrong bucket, I think) and that brought me back closer to the middle. I think if I had to pick a slot right now it'd be VOTE: Croag

pedit: there was a hammer?

[Alisae]

I mean aside from the fact that a bunch of scum are pushing Fire for this

all roses claim day 1. if there are more than 3 claims, then we lynch in the roses to find the liar. if not more than 3. we have ICs.

Good plan

I really don't see how scum!fire comes up with this plan so quickly, or why he would even post it for that matter if he was scum.
He could just go about his day and not post this and no one would have thought of this, since I think most people are fairly confident that the first thing they're going to think when they see 3 roses is "We need to protect the roses and keep them hidden!"