'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 415, JasonWazza wrote:
So big claim here, make sure you read each part of it.
Claim: i WAS scum with Ircher, meaning each of us has 2 states, Quantum Townie and Quantum Mafia, this is actually eluded to in flip of Merlyn.
Note: The Mafia team absolutely don't have access to any additional information.
Suspicion: This means that it is very likely that CJ is scum right now, Merlyn was number 1, so i suspect that the movement of roles is either +/- 1 meaning CJ would be scum in every case.
However, this doesn't always help us, we don't know that putting him in the box keeps his alignment the same and Aliana's flip might change the alignment.
Note: The Mafia team boxing is also not compulsive, so it might be worth it for whoever the Mafia team is to not actually box someone at night, as your likely to alignment change again.
Plan: Box CJ, Mafia team should avoid using the box mechanic, observe if the Alignment's change affects people in the box.
VOTE: ceejayvinoya
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 424, Doctor Drew wrote:
Also, and again a dumb question, this basically clears Heip and Bianco as not D1 scum? And depending on which direction it changed, one of them is cleared today as well......again if we were to believe your theory.
Especially since my role/alignment didn't change.
I am just trying to talk through this claim lol
Yes to be clear, your D1 scum were Ircher/JasonWazza, and yes haha I was scum and no one guessed.
It's possible that one of the scum would be Bianco (-1 skipping Aliana) or even that Aliana turned into scum if the box doesn't shield Alignment changes
Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
In post 424, Doctor Drew wrote:
Also, and again a dumb question, this basically clears Heip and Bianco as not D1 scum? And depending on which direction it changed, one of them is cleared today as well......again if we were to believe your theory.
Especially since my role/alignment didn't change.
I am just trying to talk through this claim lol
Yes to be clear, your D1 scum were Ircher/JasonWazza, and yes haha I was scum and no one guessed.
It's possible that one of the scum would be Bianco (-1 skipping Aliana) or even that Aliana turned into scum if the box doesn't shield Alignment changes
Hold on, who is this Aliana you speak of?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 415, JasonWazza wrote:
So big claim here, make sure you read each part of it.
Claim: i WAS scum with Ircher, meaning each of us has 2 states, Quantum Townie and Quantum Mafia, this is actually eluded to in flip of Merlyn.
Note: The Mafia team absolutely don't have access to any additional information.
Suspicion: This means that it is very likely that CJ is scum right now, Merlyn was number 1, so i suspect that the movement of roles is either +/- 1 meaning CJ would be scum in every case.
However, this doesn't always help us, we don't know that putting him in the box keeps his alignment the same and Aliana's flip might change the alignment.
Note: The Mafia team boxing is also not compulsive, so it might be worth it for whoever the Mafia team is to not actually box someone at night, as your likely to alignment change again.
Plan: Box CJ, Mafia team should avoid using the box mechanic, observe if the Alignment's change affects people in the box.
VOTE: ceejayvinoya
I refuse to play along with this. That "Suspicion" makes the game too easy and predictable too. Where did you even get the movement of roles stuff anyway?
Why don't we vote Ircher first anyway? There's no guarantee that his state has changed. Mine certainly has not.
VOTE: Ircher
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
In post 424, Doctor Drew wrote:
Also, and again a dumb question, this basically clears Heip and Bianco as not D1 scum? And depending on which direction it changed, one of them is cleared today as well......again if we were to believe your theory.
Especially since my role/alignment didn't change.
I am just trying to talk through this claim lol
Yes to be clear, your D1 scum were Ircher/JasonWazza, and yes haha I was scum and no one guessed.
It's possible that one of the scum would be Bianco (-1 skipping Aliana) or even that Aliana turned into scum if the box doesn't shield Alignment changes
Hold on, who is this Aliana you speak of?
I think he's talking about Arugula
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
In post 415, JasonWazza wrote:
So big claim here, make sure you read each part of it.
Claim: i WAS scum with Ircher, meaning each of us has 2 states, Quantum Townie and Quantum Mafia, this is actually eluded to in flip of Merlyn.
Note: The Mafia team absolutely don't have access to any additional information.
Suspicion: This means that it is very likely that CJ is scum right now, Merlyn was number 1, so i suspect that the movement of roles is either +/- 1 meaning CJ would be scum in every case.
However, this doesn't always help us, we don't know that putting him in the box keeps his alignment the same and Aliana's flip might change the alignment.
Note: The Mafia team boxing is also not compulsive, so it might be worth it for whoever the Mafia team is to not actually box someone at night, as your likely to alignment change again.
Plan: Box CJ, Mafia team should avoid using the box mechanic, observe if the Alignment's change affects people in the box.
VOTE: ceejayvinoya
I refuse to play along with this. That "Suspicion" makes the game too easy and predictable too. Where did you even get the movement of roles stuff anyway?
Why don't we vote Ircher first anyway? There's no guarantee that his state has changed. Mine certainly has not.
VOTE: Ircher
Do you realize how shitty the game would be if one scum changes and the other doesn't?
Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
Drew's response to Jason feels like Drew knows ceejay isn't scum, and the only people who could know that are the new scum...
(Well barring cop inno results but if alignments can change like Jason and Ircher are saying then cop results are worthless)
Pedit: 431 is really bad
VOTE: ceejay
Lol, this was quite the journey.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
Ngl, having to junk all of D1 since people's alignments could've changed makes this a challenge.
I'm struggling to see with this setup why scum won't just claim the next day (assuming alignments change each night) which gives us two innos ish each day...
Actually to be fair ceejay does have a point:
@Jason: why would this setup be broken if only one scum changed alignment rather than both?
"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy
In post 437, imaginality wrote:
@Jason: why would this setup be broken if only one scum changed alignment rather than both?
Because it's an even easier solve then movement via the numbers, we find out on D3 that Ircher was scum the whole time, and given that the next scum is guaranteed to be his current partner.
Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
Hint: CJ is a victim of circumstance in that both directions make's him scum, but consider it from a wider game perspective, and where scum aren't just 2 slots away from each other, this movement wouldn't be easy to detect, and would normally result in 4 possible targets.
Whereas one scum changing always has the same issue every time, in that at D3 the second scum to change can always out the third scum member.
Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
In post 415, JasonWazza wrote:
So big claim here, make sure you read each part of it.
Claim: i WAS scum with Ircher, meaning each of us has 2 states, Quantum Townie and Quantum Mafia, this is actually eluded to in flip of Merlyn.
Note: The Mafia team absolutely don't have access to any additional information.
Suspicion: This means that it is very likely that CJ is scum right now, Merlyn was number 1, so i suspect that the movement of roles is either +/- 1 meaning CJ would be scum in every case.
However, this doesn't always help us, we don't know that putting him in the box keeps his alignment the same and Aliana's flip might change the alignment.
Note: The Mafia team boxing is also not compulsive, so it might be worth it for whoever the Mafia team is to not actually box someone at night, as your likely to alignment change again.
Plan: Box CJ, Mafia team should avoid using the box mechanic, observe if the Alignment's change affects people in the box.
VOTE: ceejayvinoya
I refuse to play along with this. That "Suspicion" makes the game too easy and predictable too. Where did you even get the movement of roles stuff anyway?
Why don't we vote Ircher first anyway? There's no guarantee that his state has changed. Mine certainly has not.
VOTE: Ircher
This sounds like caught scum. VOTE: ceejayvinoya
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In post 415, JasonWazza wrote:
So big claim here, make sure you read each part of it.
Claim: i WAS scum with Ircher, meaning each of us has 2 states, Quantum Townie and Quantum Mafia, this is actually eluded to in flip of Merlyn.
Note: The Mafia team absolutely don't have access to any additional information.
Suspicion: This means that it is very likely that CJ is scum right now, Merlyn was number 1, so i suspect that the movement of roles is either +/- 1 meaning CJ would be scum in every case.
However, this doesn't always help us, we don't know that putting him in the box keeps his alignment the same and Aliana's flip might change the alignment.
Note: The Mafia team boxing is also not compulsive, so it might be worth it for whoever the Mafia team is to not actually box someone at night, as your likely to alignment change again.
Plan: Box CJ, Mafia team should avoid using the box mechanic, observe if the Alignment's change affects people in the box.
VOTE: ceejayvinoya
I refuse to play along with this. That "Suspicion" makes the game too easy and predictable too. Where did you even get the movement of roles stuff anyway?
Why don't we vote Ircher first anyway? There's no guarantee that his state has changed. Mine certainly has not.
VOTE: Ircher
Do you realize how shitty the game would be if one scum changes and the other doesn't?
To be fair, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities. bugs did give us the disclaimer.
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OK. Another big claim after jason's post
Jason has been telling the truth. The current scum is imagine and I, and we have put no one in the box.
Jason's hypotheses of the +/-1 is wrong. My only guess for day3 scum is bianco and doctor, who haven't been the scum in the previous days.
