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[Gamma Emerald]

That line of thinking doesn’t come up right now from a ScumGarmr. It just doesn’t. That’s townGarmr being misunderstood and feeling the need to explain it

Nah
His other stuff so far is way too questionable to clear him off that
Scum can say the same things, it’s just a bit of self-awareness
Now if you can show me how scum!Garmr typically isn’t that self-aware I might give it more weight

[Garmr]

Garmr wants to reference New Beginnings I’ll do it too, that’s actually really shady given what happened that game (me and Carcalilly actually were Masons, and Carca kinda went Ham And Chee

I'm not the type that's afraid to ask things and it's not like I haven't been blunt in the past before. So I don't know why you'rd holding me to someone else's standard?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because you’re blatantly mason fishing and given what happened that game I would definitely expect you to not do that.

[Garmr]

do you scumread gamma? or is he just null

Scum

because he couldnt pin point you as town after your last game together?

No him town reading me for hinting a role to him (I was but that's not the issue). So after that him scum reading me for saying I'm pseudo confirmed town as joke seems farfetched.

Yeah no, those aren’t equal
Just because I read you right once doesn’t make me a god at reading you. And like the vote wasn’t 100% because I scumread you, I just wanted to apply pressure to something that looked rather questionable. To me, what you were saying boiled down to is “I’m town because I say so”. Which is definitely something that seems scum motivated but at the same time is just a shitty line in general.

Yeah I understand that but you scum reading me for saying I'm pseudo confirmed town is pretty trash.

Can I ask what benefit does scum get out of it? Because I have a town one.

[Gamma Emerald]

It can scare the town off of pushing them
And like what benefit do you see, because if you are doing that when you can’t back it up then the only thing I can see is reaction-based.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a soft spot for Tic Tac after he told gamma how stupid his take on me using the word pseudo. My gut is telling me Tic Tac is most likely mislynch bait. That being said gamma comes off as scum to me Skitters prob town.

Looking back Skitter took a risk and scum read me when I was a universal town read to the active players. Her reasoning was awful but that doesn't just come from town. Gamma through his reasoning was like the worst I ever seen. Because at the end of the day it's kinda a joke and i'm not being serious. So what reason would town think scum would do this over town?

His town reads with flavour and sausade are easy to make as well.

Also after the last game I had with Gamma he should be able to pick up I'm town straight away.

In fact, you really should tell me this “town benefit”, because I just ISOed you to figure out exactly why you suspect me because I didn’t recall anything really expanding on that, and you claim it was a joke, but now you act like there is some positive to it
So like, show me you’re not being revisionist here

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually tried to quote that for something else btw
That first paragraph feels like pocketing so a Garmr scumflip lowers Tictac’s odds of being scum imo

[Garmr]

Because you’re blatantly mason fishing and given what happened that game I would definitely expect you to not do that.

That's pretty weak gamma. I honestly don't care if they are masons are outed after that soft. If I can force scum into a situation where they have to play a certain way then it benefits me as town. Also would know if there alignment if I was scum so I wouldn't have to worry.

It can scare the town off of pushing them
And like what benefit do you see, because if you are doing that when you can’t back it up then the only thing

I can see is reaction-based.

Did it push town off me? Was it worded in a way that pushed people off me? So the only scum point you listed is a stretch Because no one has town read me because of it. Pseudo confirmed means fake town so it was obvious I wasn't serious and bingo you listed one benefit as town. Also it good ice breaker.


VOTE: Gamma

[Garmr]

I have a soft spot for Tic Tac after he told gamma how stupid his take on me using the word pseudo. My gut is telling me Tic Tac is most likely mislynch bait. That being said gamma comes off as scum to me Skitters prob town.

Looking back Skitter took a risk and scum read me when I was a universal town read to the active players. Her reasoning was awful but that doesn't just come from town. Gamma through his reasoning was like the worst I ever seen. Because at the end of the day it's kinda a joke and i'm not being serious. So what reason would town think scum would do this over town?

His town reads with flavour and sausade are easy to make as well.

Also after the last game I had with Gamma he should be able to pick up I'm town straight away.

In fact, you really should tell me this “town benefit”, because I just ISOed you to figure out exactly why you suspect me because I didn’t recall anything really expanding on that, and you claim it was a joke, but now you act like there is some positive to it
So like, show me you’re not being revisionist here

can I ask you a question do you let people know your doing a reaction test straight away? Because that would seem dumb I did crumb it.

Because at the end of the day

it's kinda

a joke

This was my hint that it was a test kind of refers to some extent meaning there was another reason to do it. I was really cautious about letting catch on that I rewrote the sentence 5-6 times till I was happy.

[Garmr]

Oh half joking

I thought it be funny before this game if I just keeped repeating/mentioning I'm pseudo confirmed town

I planned this before this game even started.

[Garmr]

Funny how the replies were instant till I let that bombshell out.

[Gamma Emerald]

It could have created PR paranoia. And like this definitely feels like you’re scum just shouting “reaction test!” about a play you made that didn’t work out right. And like, if you are seriously calling me scum because you decided to make some dumb play and I called you out, then get freaking real. Like you honestly did the opposite thing to that other game. That time you leaned into the play you were doing, this game you edged away from it. So if you want to say I should be reading you X way because of that game, X should be scum, not town.

And I’m really not sure if “locking scum into playing a certain way” is a very applicable idea coming from you, gimme a second.

[Gamma Emerald]

What bombshell lmfao
And like, I could be doing any number of things, get over yourself

[Wake1]

V/LA until 12/18/19.

Noted

~ AF

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah you were part of that shitshow where the masons made the mistake of pushing each other
So like based on that it kinda baffles me you find this a productive line of inquiry regarding the possibility of masons
And because I cut myself short to go look for that game, you’d know alignments as scum, yes, but you wouldn’t know roles, and it would be very nice to get masons to claim super early and get them out of the way. I don’t see how that is in any way a point that would exonerate you.

[Flavor Leaf]

This TvT argument I read, and really don’t feel like responding.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see Garmr as town but he’s not doing himself any favors rn

[Non lmh]

k, up to pg.11, taking a short break, just letting y'all know in case anyone cares, not scum, so until I think otherwise UNVOTE: Leaf

[UnaBombaH]

I’m a cop. Gtfo.

This has the same chance of being true, as me feeling whole again someday..
#sadbutuntrue

[UnaBombaH]

We lynch in those 4 today. Never the first option.

I will investigate one of the others.

“Cop” is in my role title, but that’s not the only part of it. I also am Loud, so I’ll be able to prove it eventually.

Do these still work for you?

I've been away from this site for some time, since I've been leading a more ascetic lifestyle now. So no metareads from here, but I do know how much Boon loves to fakeclaim as either alignment.

[UnaBombaH]

VOTE: Tictac

Dunnstral

, I don’t really feel like Flavor is abandoning reads here, he’s just choosing which ones to press.

If Gamma and Boon are both scum here, I'm going to be sad.

[UnaBombaH]

I dont discredit anyone you are all fully welcome to express yourselves like the beautiful people you are

Well, now that you have given me an opening..
Regarding my changed lifestyle - I only recently decided to put some of my old decorations and trophies back up, but I seem to be missing one of my favorites..
It was this beautifully ornated pistol, but the set also has this holster for it, and now it's missing. I think I'm going for that holster tonight when I'm doing my christmas cleanup.
My other favorite is this brown/gold spyglass I got from my grandpa. I'm going to put that on display tonight, and feel good about myself.
I don't think my trophies really match with my aforementioned ascetic values, but they do make me feel better just by being on display. And I guess that's all that matter.

[UnaBombaH]

Garmr who is your #1 townread and your #1 scumread as of RIGHT NOW

Flavour(Town) and Gamma(Scum).

I do not see it working like this btw.
I can see all the other three mutations to some extent, but this is the one I dislike the most.

[Non lmh]

k, past 1am here, but it's Saturday so I'll try to keep going
just starting pg17

[UnaBombaH]

What makes FL so obviously scum to you? Because until his once again god awful claim (I want to puke ) he didn't really pinged me in any particular way. Did his behaviour post-claim changed your read on him?

I think it has something to do with choice of words, and the way they position themselves sort of "outside" of the discussion while still taking part in it.
Yelling from the outside.
Also his early read on me is terrible, and I think he wanted to create an opening for an Una-lynch D1. Or he was gradually going to soften his take on me, resulting in a pocketing-scenario. Not because I'd ever be a threat, but because he sees me as a tool to use. And because I wouldn't not be paranoid about him in the later stages when he'd try to "" build a townbloc" as scum.