Mini 2237: Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia - Game Over

[Zyla]

cause theyre the protagonists of the show and also a sample scum pm was for the witches i think

I mean, yes, they're the protagonists, but that doesn't mean they don't make sense as the scum team. If you were doing a Godfather themed game, wouldn't you want the - *googles the movie* - Corleone family to be a scum team? (I'm assuming the answer is yes, but I do not know anything about the Godfather)

[Zyla]

Fair point on the witches though, I didn't think to look at the sample PMs

[Shrek]

cause theyre the protagonists of the show and also a sample scum pm was for the witches i think

I mean, yes, they're the protagonists, but that doesn't mean they don't make sense as the scum team. If you were doing a Godfather themed game, wouldn't you want the - *googles the movie* - Corleone family to be a scum team? (I'm assuming the answer is yes, but I do not know anything about the Godfather)

no??? theyre the protagonists

[Shrek]

also this isnt a godfather themed game so your point is moot

[Guillotina]

Actually if you genuinely believe that I never considered to understand why you're pushing me, that implies you think I'm town.

No, I'm implying that you are scum with an agenda. I've been very clear that I don't town read you.

If I'm scum with an agenda and you're town, I don't have to understand why you're pushing me because obviously I am your enemy. Town can't plead with scum to try to understand them because scum's objective is to deceive and kill despite knowing the truth. So why are you pleading with scum to understand your perspective?

If I'm not a town read, then you're slipping that I'm town through TMI.

That's because I don't know that you are scum, I suspect you to be scum dude. If I knew you were scum, you'd be dead already.

[Guillotina]

If I'm gonna be the yeet, please be it today. Don't make me high effort, try to solve the game and still end up getting chopped, this is a 10-day phase game, don't make me waste my time.

[Hiraki]

I don't see a scenario - unless Vision/Wanda have needlessly complicated powers - where Vision/Wanda are the bad guys in the game. Unless the whole point of the game is that since the townies are based off of Westview citizens, they'd also want Wanda/Vision out too. But that seems a little outlandish compared to the previous possibility where SWORD & witches are the teams.

I thought about it hard on why this role could exist...and I'm not seeing many town uses for it (again - under the assumption that V&W are town roles - if you flip this, the rationale is much weirder). That being said, I think it's a bold/weird scumclaim for D1 so I'm not really ready to hop on that train of thought too tightly.

Finally, I wondered what is the use of it at the end of the day. It's not a normal role which makes me think there are inherently non-normal roles in this game outside of the weak role.

Kind of just rambling at this point but don't have much time/energy to really correct any dumb setup mistakes here. Like I said I'm trash at that sort of thinking.

[Enchant]

I just noticed i am sitting here uselessly again.


In my flavor, SWORD doesh't look like scum, because i collaborating with one of these agents. I even know this name, but i don't want reveal it yet.

[mastina]

Wtf? HEY! In what world do you believe that im scum with Roden?

I don't? You're mutually exclusive with both Roden and T3.

That is even worse, I think both of them could be scum, associating me with them implies that I'm bussing my partners for no reason whatsoever. I've scum read them based on interactions with you and now YOU think I'm scum with them.

The Audacity!

Realtalk; are you reading what I am saying???

I said that you cannot be scum with T3.
I said that you cannot be scum with Roden.
You cannot be scum with either.
One of them being scum means that you cannot be on their scumteam.
One of them being scum means that you cannot be their partner.

However, this is multiball. Just because you're not scum with T3, and just because you're not scum with Roden, doesn't mean that you can't be scum.

You can be town!

If T3 and Roden both flipped scum, in fact, you'd be the hardest of hard clears.
But until such a time, you can still be scum. Just not WITH T3 or Roden.

(BTW phoneposting so forgive my slowness and bad formatting.)

[mastina]

Roden's claim feels believable? But also he's such a minor character, I could see that as one of scum's fakeclaims.

Ditto this.
Is more or less what I thought.

[mastina]

VOTE: mastina[/b]

answer my question and elaborate on your townread of galron

Respectfully, no.

Galron looks town enough to me even without my assumption. I see no need to out my assumption today.

[Hiraki]

In my flavor, SWORD doesh't look like scum, because i collaborating with one of these agents. I even know this name, but i don't want reveal it yet.

Now this is interesting - you don't need to answer if you feel as if I'm prying here but have you seen the show and is this person a good SWORD person (i.e. Jimmy Woo or the lady at the end who helps out with the space tank)?

[Hiraki]

Mastina what do you think about the role though?

[mastina]

Mastina what do you think about the role though?

Worthless if Wanda and Vision are town (why does a town role need to find town?), too OP if Wanda and Vision are scum (why would a town role be able to out an entire scumteam?).

So either way, makes nominally more sense as a scum role. I can SEE Rodens claim being town, but I think scum is overall more likely.

BTW, current feels:
2/3 scum in {Roden, T3, Guillotina},
Element scum,
Zyla scum.

[Hiraki]

Nice - we're agreed there. I don't get the rationale of this gambit from a scum POV which is why I have hesitancy but perhaps that was the intent all along.

[Enchant]

In my flavor, SWORD doesh't look like scum, because i collaborating with one of these agents. I even know this name, but i don't want reveal it yet.

Now this is interesting - you don't need to answer if you feel as if I'm prying here but have you seen the show and is this person a good SWORD person (i.e. Jimmy Woo or the lady at the end who helps out with the space tank)?

You are right.

[Enchant]

While i didn't watch show, you actually quessed name.

What is SWORD btw?

[CheekyTeeky]

So either way, makes nominally more sense as a scum role. I can SEE Rodens claim being town, but I think scum is overall more likely.

If scum could explain why Roden was so eager to claim to clear himself. Rolefishing.

[ArcAngel9]

Vote Count 1-4

Galron:

CheekyTeeky:

Enchant:

Hiraki, MegAzumarill

cyrus62:

mastina:

Shrek,

Guillotina:

Roden, ,

Not_Mafia:

Enchant, Not_Mafia,

Shrek:

,

Roden:

, mastina, T3, Guillotina

Hiraki:

Zyla:

MegAzumarill:

cyrus62

T3:

CheekyTeeky,

Not Voting

(13): , Zyla, Galron,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: September 24th, 2021

Countdown: (expired on 2021-09-24 05:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Roden]

Roden's claim feels believable? But also he's such a minor character, I could see that as one of scum's fakeclaims.

I really just want to lim Roden here.

I'm Abilash Tandon/Norm. VT

This is such a confusing line of posts? You think I could be fake claiming because my role is a minor character, yet you're claiming Norm who has zero plot relevance? Mine actually has plot relevance in the first episode and could easily be Masons with the character who plays his wife, so it would be so unnecessarily risky to fake claim this guy.

I have no idea why you still want to elim me here if you believe my claim anyway.

[Roden]

Actually if you genuinely believe that I never considered to understand why you're pushing me, that implies you think I'm town.

No, I'm implying that you are scum with an agenda. I've been very clear that I don't town read you.

If I'm scum with an agenda and you're town, I don't have to understand why you're pushing me because obviously I am your enemy. Town can't plead with scum to try to understand them because scum's objective is to deceive and kill despite knowing the truth. So why are you pleading with scum to understand your perspective?

If I'm not a town read, then you're slipping that I'm town through TMI.

That's because I don't know that you are scum, I suspect you to be scum dude. If I knew you were scum, you'd be dead already.

Really?

Guillo fuming that he got caught early lol

You got the story crooked. I caught you and i cant wait for your flip and bet that best town performance nomination

What's this post then?

Mastina is town. They were fast to break RVS off, negating wolves the chance to blend in.

Roden is obvious scum
VOTE: Roden

Why does your very first post claim that I'm obvscum?

[Roden]

Mastina what do you think about the role though?

Worthless if Wanda and Vision are town (why does a town role need to find town?), too OP if Wanda and Vision are scum (why would a town role be able to out an entire scumteam?).

So either way, makes nominally more sense as a scum role. I can SEE Rodens claim being town, but I think scum is overall more likely.

BTW, current feels:
2/3 scum in {Roden, T3, Guillotina},
Element scum,
Zyla scum.

Assuming Wanda/Vision aren't scum, it let's me find the real ones and confirm them as town.

So either way, makes nominally more sense as a scum role. I can SEE Rodens claim being town, but I think scum is overall more likely.

If scum could explain why Roden was so eager to claim to clear himself. Rolefishing.

How is it rolefishing?

[Roden]

Roden's claim feels believable? But also he's such a minor character, I could see that as one of scum's fakeclaims.

I really just want to lim Roden here.

I'm Abilash Tandon/Norm. VT

This is such a confusing line of posts? You think I could be fake claiming because my role is a minor character, yet you're claiming Norm who has zero plot relevance? Mine actually has plot relevance in the first episode and could easily be Masons with the character who plays his wife, so it would be so unnecessarily risky to fake claim this guy.

I have no idea why you still want to elim me here if you believe my claim anyway.

To add to this, why haven't you tried to meta me yet? You usually love using meta and dumping meta analysis posts in the game.

[Roden]

The way Roden is playing rn and actively gunning for people for shit reasons means he's probably scum. I also get why mastina says Roden feels different to Yakra.

You're playing

very

differently this game.

I am.

I'm Abilash Tandon/Norm. VT

These two posts feel a lot less congruent now that you're claiming VT.

[cyrus62]

Wtf? HEY! In what world do you believe that im scum with Roden?

I don't? You're mutually exclusive with both Roden and T3.

That is even worse, I think both of them could be scum, associating me with them implies that I'm bussing my partners for no reason whatsoever. I've scum read them based on interactions with you and now YOU think I'm scum with them.

The Audacity!

Realtalk; are you reading what I am saying???

I said that you cannot be scum with T3.
I said that you cannot be scum with Roden.
You cannot be scum with either.
One of them being scum means that you cannot be on their scumteam.
One of them being scum means that you cannot be their partner.

However, this is multiball. Just because you're not scum with T3, and just because you're not scum with Roden, doesn't mean that you can't be scum.

You can be town!

If T3 and Roden both flipped scum, in fact, you'd be the hardest of hard clears.
But until such a time, you can still be scum. Just not WITH T3 or Roden.

(BTW phoneposting so forgive my slowness and bad formatting.)

you know you kinda said the same thing in corno trigger about somebody who was town when you were scum well trying to aim at one of the other people just like your doing now . At t3 do a meta dive of mistina . Check the game corno trigger.