Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And with that
VOTE: MariaR

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The only problem with dave is that i dont see him claiming "i has no other abilities" and then not making the kill N1.
But.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyone has any objections to what i have stated?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Although if both MariaR and dave flip scum AND the game's not over, i'd think it'd be pretty impossible for punreader to be scum yeah, he'd have to have hard bussed his entire team (or the remaining of it), with one of his teammates being known as one a very good scumplayer to his own word and prolly some others (matt), and planning on reaching LyLo alone.

[OnTheMark]

I don’t see anything wrong with what you’re saying

Brain gets it. Gut is screaming something is wrong.

[Dunnstral]

Gonna wait for MariaR to post

[OnTheMark]

Otm can you be roleblocked y/n

my legs are killing me I'm back from new york

Don't be stupid, if you mislynch me you lost the opportunity to mechanically determine Maria.

^^^^

Already has.

It seems really odd MariaR would want to be checked?

[Dunnstral]

Gonna wait for MariaR to post, after having read up on current events

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Gonna wait for MariaR to post, after having read up on current events

So you believe that matt didnt act N2 while being a role cop?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I dunno what do you want a confscum to say, but ok.

[wilky]

Oh wait...actually hang on.

ETL's vig shot is explained if ETL tried to shoot Maria and someone doctored Kaede.

I'm sure impossibear did crumb that Maria was going to be their target. I'll go find it after this post.

@Wilky who are you copping?

@Kaede that makes a lot more sense. However, I kinda think it's Dave here. Ouroborous would have had to have visited you as an IC for the copy to work yeah?

I'm not going to answer that and give scum a chance to change it/interfere with it.

I have to go now running late for carpool stuff

VOTE: Davesaz

I kinda think it's Dave and if it's not then it is worth the confirmation of a town doc existing and then being able to save themselves and Kaede each night.

@Kaede: Do you know if this would work with your role? Town Doctor claims then saves you each night. You target town doctor each night and then you save one another.

can someone run me through why Maria is scum? cos I still think Dave is scum. Maybe both, who knows?

Could be both but mechanically Maria was the only one in the hood when the visit on pmatt happened.

[wilky]

ok, I'll trust you there for today. dunn and pun can be on hold until i get more info tomorrow.

Investigative abilities should be focused on this group! Targeting outside the PoE will be considered a scumclaim.

higher priority

projectmatt
davesaz
verylazy/kokichi
mariaR

the rest

ankamius
dunnstral
punreader

I think we have a good plan of action right now. The only thing left for today is

Maria to provide the name of the other neighbor

, if such a person even exists. pmatt's flip will indicate lies or not.

and then we will shoot accordingly.

ETL

This could possibly be a crumb here.I could have sworn there was another really subtle Maria crumb but I can't find it now. Impossibear does spend a lot of yesterday on Maria too though so a Maria shot makes sense.

Another thing I thought of is the reason Maria/Dave wanted to keep one another alive could be that they are both scum and want one of them to coast off of "finding the other scum" in the neighbourhood. It does make them wanting to keep each other alive make a little more sense on Maria's behalf when she knew she would end up being conf scum.

[Ankamius]

I kind of feel davesaz might not be scum

Mariar definitely is though

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Kaede: Do you know if this would work with your role? Town Doctor claims then saves you each night. You target town doctor each night and then you save one another.

Yes, I had already asked GIF about this before iirc, would cause the doc to target me and themselves.
Of course, there' still the issue that i could be redirected.

[Ankamius]

Kaede

What do you think of YTs entrance?

[Ankamius]

Like

I don't really understand his reads?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede

What do you think of YTs entrance?

Dunno what to think about it, but as I said before matt was obsessed with lynching Ram iirc, so im just stuffing it in the town pile. At least he seems less scummy than Ram.

[Ankamius]

hm

YT what parts of the game have you gotten your reads from?

[GuyInFreezer]

4.01

MariaR (7):

Ankamius, wilky, davesaz, YT2980, Alchemist21, punreader, OnTheMark

davesaz (3):

Dunnstral, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

Not Voting:

MariaR, Kaede Akamatsu, Kokichi Oma

With

12

alive,

7

to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2018-06-09 23:05:14)

[GuyInFreezer]

MariaR, Kellogg (

Institute 1-shot Bulletproof 1-shot Strongman Reconneusieur

), was lynched Day 4.

Spoiler: Role PM

Kellogg

Welcome to Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition!

You are

Kellogg (

Institute 1-shot Bulletproof 1-shot Strongman Reconneusieur

)

.

Stone-faced killer hired by the Institute.

---

Abilities:

• Cybernetic-enhanced:
  You will withstand 1 normal killing attempt on you.
  
• Seasoned Killer:
  Once per game, your nightkill will bypass any sort of protection.
  
• Reconnaissance:
  Whoever your target visits/visits the target will be followed by you.

---

Win Condition

• Take control of half of the alive players, or when it can not be prevented.

Night 4 deadline: (expired on 2018-06-12 12:39:43)

[GuyInFreezer]

Opening in an hour

[GuyInFreezer]

OnTheMark, Strong (

Commonwealth Strong Roleblocker

), was killed Night 4.

Spoiler: Role PM

Strong

Welcome to Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition!

You are

Strong (

Commonwealth Strong Roleblocker

)

.

Strong wanders to find the secret of human strength - the milk of human kindness.

---

Abilities:

• STRONG SMASH!:
  Your action precedes ALL action resolution.
  
• HUMANS WEAK!:
  Your target is roleblocked for the night.

---

Win Condition

• Eliminate all who are sided with the
  Institute

Kaede Akamatsu received a quest to help out the settlements!

Day 5 deadline: (expired on 2018-06-26 17:15:26)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That is... interesting.
I didnt even realize MariaR had been hammered already. But then literally everyone except Jungle and Dunn had voted for her.

Well anyway seems like the previous quest failed since Jungle was able to give me a new one, so I guess I wasn't commuting, and as you can see i didnt target last night.

So Jungle I hope this time your quest does end up helping the settlements, today's your last chance.
I also still wanna know your reads, etc.

[Ankamius]

Who's still alive?

[wilky]

Ugh, action failed again. Fairly obvious I won't be getting a result here.

Jungle can you tell us about your quest today? I'm with kaede in thinking today should be the last chance to get a quest done.

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

Okay, here's my reads and efforting.

Ankamius + Kaede Akamatsu

-

Conftown

- Duh, I know I'm town and Kaede is mod-confirmed town.

Ouroboros

-

Strong Town

- I don't see this slot being scum. My initial townread was due to having very similar thoughts through a lot of the early-mid day one, but I've been noticing that whenever RC takes a step back and analyzes without his ego getting in the way, he's still having thought processes that feel like he's trying to solve the game. I think scum-RC would have played some of these moments a bit differently and caused subtle differences in the game that would ripple into a different game state. Altogether, while he

does

have an agenda (it's fucking RC, of course he has an agenda), it doesn't feel like he's trying to run cartwheels around everybody or taking all the effort to fake his thoughts. I don't think scum-him would feel like he needs to. The only reason this isn't locktown is because I still have some lingering weird vibes from some of Ghost's posting and I wasn't altogether very impressed by our brief engagement earlier. It's not strong enough to be worth worrying about, but it's something to keep in mind if RC starts looking less town in the future. (plus I think I'm one of the people that

can

read RC accurately... when I get a read at all anyways).

Impossibear

-

Strong Town

- Similarly, I don't see this slot flipping scum either. I haven't agreed with a lot of the things ETL has said so far in the game, but I still think that her thoughts come from a town mindset rather than a scum one. Her engagements have looked really town too. Jingle is somewhat similar, anytime I get a read from anything he's stated, it's leaning towards town. This read isn't super easy to explain since a lot of it comes down to general tone and trajectories, but it's been consistent enough that I don't believe this read is going to change unless something drastic happens.

Nero Cain/projectmatt

-

Strong Town

- Nero Cain is a weird one; I think the best way for me to read Nero Cain is that the more we disagree on things, the more he's town. And... well, I disagreed on close to everything he's said. His posts have felt icky, but... not scum-motivated icky. I think the way he entered the game and engaged with my then-strongest townread would have pinged me if he was scum. projectmatt I'm more confident about; I think the two of us are similar in how we get reads, or at least it seems that way because a lot of the thoughts he has (and I'm not counting the mechanics debate posts) just makes sense to me. Plus, the way he handled the engagement with RC's case on him felt like he was engaging a townread to try to help them refine their reads rather than just remove/deflect the scumread, if that makes sense? I don't feel like his entire approach to the game comes from scum.

hebichan/OnTheMark

-

Town

- I'm willing to trust Jingle on this one, I think. His reads are still way off (like I think his scumreads are just those who resisted the dave wagon?), but that's null. If something crazy happens, I'll revisit this slot.

Alchemist21

-

Town

- I think this slot has been looking better despite the holder being relatively inactive lately; I'm willing to admit I might be wrong on the early posts being scum-indicative and there's been some posts he's had that I actually really like for town. Plus after some time and distance from the engagement we had, it doesn't look quite as bad to me as it used to. Not impossible that this is still scum but I think that's fairly unlikely right now.

Wraith

-

Town

- It doesn't show up super often, but when Wraith's posting looks town, it looks

really

town. The recent posts from him are giving me that same feeling, so I'm a lot less convinced that it was a case of strong-entrance-into-coasting-scum, just a town with a strong entrance that continues to keep up that string when he tries.

verylazy/Kokichi Oma

-

Lightly Town

- I think my reason for calling Kokichi town isn't really as strong now as I used to, but still kind of town indicative. Most of my hesitation is solely because I've only ever seen Kokichi as scum. Shrug. verylazy could have gone either way, he was null for a lot of the day for me for pretty good reason.

REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

-

Lightly Town

/Null

- I don't really know how to judge this slot. I somewhat remember thinking this slot was town, but I can't remember any

reason

to townread this slot. Could just be null and I'd feel about the same about this slot I think. I think this can be sorted for sure later on (assuming this player stays, I'll just reset on this slot if it gets replaced)

MariaR + Dunnstral

-

Sort Later/Likely Town

- I still think Dunnstral is independently scummy, but my townread on MariaR is just strong enough to trust that her investigation is both true and accurate. Not much I want to say about this beyond it, I'll revisit if both of these slots are around for too long.

Wilky + davesaz + Tchill13/punreader

-

PoE Scumreads

- I remember very little of Wilky; a lot of his posts haven't given me vibes either way outside of his early posts looking really scummy. davesaz is always hard to read for me but I haven't seen a whole lot of reason to townread him? Overall pretty much null. Tchill13 was very scummy... but I want to see what punreader does to see if they can reverse my read.

Ramcius

-

Scum

- Consistently having scummy posts, mainly. I don't think his entire approach or play comes from town here.

In conclusion

Ramcius is my pick for scum.
Wilky is probably second pick pending other slots being resorted.
davesaz/Tchill13slot can go either way, but it's more likely the third scum is here than anywhere else.

If scum is not in that list, then it's probably REALMEN? Maybe Kokichi.

If scum is STILL not contained in the above, then I am giving someone a pass that I shouldn't. Very likely within MariaR/Dunnstral.

Ankamius

Kaede Akamatsu

Ouroboros
Impossibear

projectmatt

OnTheMark

Alchemist21

Wraith

Kokichi Oma
REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

MariaR

Dunnstral

Wilky
davesaz
Punreader

YT#########