Because Nacho was making sense, I felt Batt was town with the statement he made about wanting a lynch and pushing people to vote no matter who and after reading Nacho's comment you seemed the scummiest with my scum team possibility.AntB wrote:In all honestly I was too focused on my targets to consider anyone else... no doubt it will now be my undoing.
I still want to know the reason you voted me D1 farside...
Meh I have killed players as mafia in the hopes that it has people think like this. I consider night kills a null tell used by mafia to manipulate anyway or as DP pointed out killing the most town player in the game.lord_hur wrote:I am not buying this. It's too obvious. Scum have received a big blow, and, imho, would go for a safe path. Were I scum, and if AntB is town (I still think there's more chance he is than average), I would NK Nachomamma8 to tackle AntB, his main opponent of D1.
This is a first thought. Time for a reread.
I don't know, anyone on the wagon (and town) would have made a good target. That said, I think Nachomamma8 is the best player of the wagon (I don't count farside22 as on the wagon, as I've said earlier), so that may have been their motivation, if they have the same opinion.DavidParker wrote:My first thought of day 2 is just that nacho was night-killed for being obvious town after the whole nacho vs ant saga, and then batts turning out to be scum. I think town are more likely to night kill based on who they think is seemingly obv-town, than who they can manipulate to make other people look bad (things just get too complicated/WIFOMy there, and really it just makes more sense to kill pro-town players).
Would you, as AntB-scum, in the situation scum are now, risk confirming someone who pointed you as most obvious scum in his last twilight post ?Nachomamma8 wrote:Okay, so...
Batt/AntB/Smash
Is our scumteam. Sound about right?
My thinking in those kind of situations is that if you leave the player alive they are almost guaranteed to continue the case againt you (ie nacho would keep pushing against AntB). Whereas if you kill Nacho, it goes from 90% chance of AntB lynch down to 50-60%. Plus you get rid of a strong/confirmed (most people had him down as a townie iirc) town player. And if AntB is town it keeps the chances of his lynch high enough that mafia can jump on the wagon with relative ease. Win/win/win if you are mafia imo. Doesnt make AntB scum though, a reread is in orderlord_hur wrote:Would you, as AntB-scum, in the situation scum are now, risk confirming someone who pointed you as most obvious scum in his last twilight post ?
It's not true for all players (not for me, for example), but this is a very good point in this case. Nachomamma8 is indeed prone to tunnel-vision, and AntB-scum could have outed him because of this.Archer wrote:My thinking in those kind of situations is that if you leave the player alive they are almost guaranteed to continue the case againt you (ie nacho would keep pushing against AntB). Whereas if you kill Nacho, it goes from 90% chance of AntB lynch down to 50-60%. Plus you get rid of a strong/confirmed (most people had him down as a townie iirc) town player. And if AntB is town it keeps the chances of his lynch high enough that mafia can jump on the wagon with relative ease. Win/win/win if you are mafia imo. Doesnt make AntB scum though, a reread is in orderlord_hur wrote:Would you, as AntB-scum, in the situation scum are now, risk confirming someone who pointed you as most obvious scum in his last twilight post ?
I find you saying this interesting as you didn't switch your vote to him until the counter claim from Egg, however you did state suspicion on him.andrew94 wrote:farside, i didnt feel batt was town with his actions/backtracking yesterday
I'm surprised that this didn't come up earlier. I had just forgotten that it was the day of the deadline and didn't have much time online, so I didn't look at the thread at all. The only thing I can say in my defense is that if i were scum, I would be paying more attention to the thread, and would have kept checking and jumped to vote Batt right after the counterclaim. BUt pretty much I screwed up.lord_hur wrote:Explain this.Nachomamma8 wrote:Smash I just saw you down there where's your Batt vote?
Vote : smashbro_of_the_SSS
1. Why not bring it up on your own, then? You know town are supposed to be honest (well, unless gambitting), don't you?smashbro_of_the_SSS wrote:I'm surprised that this didn't come up earlier.
I call bullshit on this! You did not correct me when I said you were playing another game, and I know you were not, since you did not post anything at all at the time Nachomamma8 caught you!smashbro_of_the_SSS wrote:2) I just forgot that it was deadline that day, and so didn't look at it.
I shall protect you!!