Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[RachMarie]

Mikan do we HAVE to do the gimmick? It is getting old rather fast...

[Transcend]

it appears rachmarie is trapped in the stone age era

someone bring her a time machine and retrieve her to present time plz

[Transcend]

trans is prpb town but I have been fooled by him before so will hold off a bit on that.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Someone intelligent bounce this off me.

if we are running some fool up and they claim PR is it optimal to have a CC period and leave both alive yes/no

Okay
I'm going to go OOC to explain this becuase I spent some time thinking about what would happen if we massclaimed.
The answer would be Traitor would just claim VT here no matter what and would just rely on other methods to signal to their scumteam.
Claiming PR is a bit too risky I think.

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Let me preface that the following joke was much funnier before I realized nested spoilers don't work on this site and I'm a little upset about that.

Spoiler: A ketchup post

Spoiler: Sorry I meant catch-up

Hello this is your fearless leader CHECKERSMAN7 here to give you the THREE SIMPLE STEPS to winning this game.

1. SHAMELESSLY AND BOLDLY SHEEP CHECKERSMAN7
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4(Bonus). UTTERLY HUMILIATE THOR AND MAJIFFY SUPPORTERS AROUND THE WORLD

Gonna need you to go ahead and just check that Flowchart I have handily linked in my siggy there because your steps appear to be in direct conflict with the proper order of operations.

A TOWNBLOC OF 11, with a MAXIMUM OF THREE IN THE SMALLEST GROUP, CAN DECIDE THE DAY ONE SCUMFUCK

This is actually a good idea so I'm gonna claim it as my idea and we can proceed.

o7

the fuck is this nonsense

Looks like me looking for who the fuck asked you tbh

Sucks i have to forfeit my vote to get the anime account or chess lynched but \_O_/

I don't want to cusse you emotional conflict! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Please break my arms!

Boy this account went from desudesukawaii-masochism to wtfasaur at breakneck speeds

Vote: Group B

Both Majiffy and I are inside of it - this sounds like money to me.

But I

like

voting

I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea. That would mean that one of you or Majiffy would likely be the NK, since scum would be forced to kill in that group.

Oh shit now I see what he's doing. Thanks Zak.

VOTE: Group B

Hey bulb how come you are sure that both Thor and Jiffy are town?

I'm not, but it's extremely likely that at least one is. If either or both are town, it'd be nice to have them around for as long as possible, so I'm not really wild about the idea of giving scum the guaranteed ability to kill some of the best players in the game right off the bat.

I legit haven't played a single game of mafia in like 2 years I don't know why you think I'm worth a damn beyond shouting loudly and demeaning people merely on the basis that they disagree with me.

Not that I was any better before my very long hiatus.

actually I am in agreement that I would like to see thor and jiffy stick around a while, if they are town.

I wouldn't. This shit is eating into my Rocket League time.

Ain't gon be no scum in my house VOTE: Group B

lul the interactive based reads on page 5. This will be entertaining.

IME early interactive reads trend more accurate and towns actually get worse as they start second-guessing themselves.

Oh how I've missed this phrase. The cornerstone of every wagon I try to start.

ugh ok fuck the syntax for a bit reading up and just waking up

pedit: omfg

You have shattered my worldview by posting OOC

Gimmick accounts need to be banned rofl

>Half the playerlist

Unnecessary text-based stuttering

You gotta self-narrate as a high-pitched stereotypical anime voice it makes it much funnier.

@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?

@mod In addition it appears from the role pm's that were provided that Secret Agents do not have a private topic to speak in, is this correct? And in addition, if the answer to the first question results in the goons not knowing the secret agents identities, what would occur if a Goon were to night kill a Secret Agent?

They would die like a normal traitor does

Have you people never played with traitors before?

This game really shouldn’t be off to such a boring start

DW Thor and I will get into a hefty multi-paragraph multi-quoted argument around page 25 or so

And that'll probably carry us through Day 2 or 3 before one or both of us is dead.

That’s also my entrance for every game so good luck pushing that it’s AI

Okay this can get lynched today

traitor is


a traitor

not hard to understand

I think the Uzz is town

fite me

@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?

Goons only know who each other are. Traitors do not know who the Traitors are and do not know who the Goons are.

what happens if goon kills traitor

The Goons can kill the Traitor just as the Goons can kill Town as long as the goon doing the kill isn't RBed or the Traitor that is targeted isn't RoleStopped.

Oh look it's like every other mafia game with traitors ever

Someone intelligent bounce this off me.

if we are running some fool up and they claim PR is it optimal to have a CC period and leave both alive yes/no

Always CC if you're town unless the run-up is result of an investigative report. In which case, soft your reports before day ends and hunt for partners.

And because it's buried in the spoiler
VOTE: Group B

This catchup is terrible and no one should be TRing this I'm sorry but its true! Please burn me if you think otherwise.

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The question really should be "Does

LUV

makes this post as town or as scum?". This isn't a generic town/scum argument, this is a LUV argument, which is why I think this "he softed" argument is dumb and likely a distraction.

I-I think I'm starting to coming around to LUV's cockiness coming from town tbh.

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P-edit: I'm saying that I think LUV is probably the type of player to do this sort of thing without thinking. I've seen it before, and he kinda fits what I'd expect to see. I don't think it's folding, but probably not thinking. If you have experience otherwise, go ahead and give it, but this is looking like a kneejerk lynch to me.

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And regardless of LUV's role, whether town PR, stupid VT, or scum (goon or traitor, doesn't matter), there's no way that a town PR in that group CCs him during DAY PHASE FREAKING ONE! That would essentially be signing their own death warrant, which would not be worth it at this point. They'd be more likely to just try to steer the lynch LUV's way anyway, because there's more than enough players who'd be willing to lynch him. The very thought is scum-sided, and not town-sided.

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VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

Ok cool thanks.

@LUV: Please hardclaim in your next post thank you

No.

Anyone who asks for a claim, or claims will get my undying condemnation. If you cannot convince us you are town by your play, you deserve it.

VOTE: Group C

I understand the reasoning behind no claims provided (it is actually fairly good) but I do feel like this post seems a bit harsh. If Rauth was scum, this right here would be a good excuse to jump on a wagon away from his group

. This is definitely something to consider if we get to a B lynch as well as the stuff on snarky I said above.

That being said, Rauth has been contributing and trying to further discussion. Anyone who has played with him before...can you tell me about his meta? Does he normally make tunnel threats as town?

I-I'm sorry but please kill this!

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Babies, for those who look to have them, wear you down and out, just like trying to keep up to simply slam down initial thoughts, omg. Just as an FYI. Initial thoughts:

Checkers/Chess, doing what I expected for the game, attempting to be the loudest one in the room and run the town/call the shots.
Ginngie, shit and caps posting as usual.
Bulb, It's day 1, I'll see what happens with you as the day(s) go on
Thor, being a god of thunder.
Rauth, we'll get to you in the question round/segment of things....
LUV, mehillgettoyouatsomepoint
Anime Apologist Account, dear me this is gonna be a long game....
The rest.... Dear thunder god the damn posts keep piling up.....

Questions:

Rauth, open set up yo, what -townie/scum PR- in their right mind is going to go "I'm the PR of group Z?!"
Checkers, why B, bb? I'm understanding the surface level, on a baby mind you, but I'd like a deeper explanation
LUV, if you want Checkers/Chess gone so badly, why is your vote not on group C? Also, within your group, who do you think is scum?
Bulb, reads so far?
Ginngie, reads?
Thor-Jiffy, who in your group do you think is scum?
Momo, why Snarky?!

Checking out for the night. I know when I come back tomorrow, it's gonna be another slog to bloody read.

mumbles and curses about everything

This screams extremely faked to me okay I'm sorry please run me over if you disagree!

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Momo, why Snarky?!

VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

I think this post covers that. Adding on, Snarky gives 0 specifics. On top of this, he mentions his own group [to avoid suspicion] but is not ready to act upon it at all. Even if he does not want the hammer in his own group [for whatever reason including that he is scum trying to avoid a lynch] he should at least give some reads. It just reads very scum to me.

Just found out ginngie is gin.

From what I remember, Gin does not play like this.

Does the alt account always act like this?

I honestly don't know.

If they do , it's a TR. If not....

Edit: Checker stop...this is looking like scum diversionary tactics from my point of view

Either way, gn everyone, seeya tomorrow

Again, please murder this.

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Be aware that there is a somewhat loose rule against posting too much and too little. We don't want to have to take it any further because we want people to be able to gauge for themselves if they are posting too much or too little, but if it gets out of hand, we are prepared for that.

The mods are mafia!

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Mikan do we HAVE to do the gimmick? It is getting old rather fast...

I'm breaking character in and out sometimes I think its managable and if you don't like it well, you can pl me, but I'm better alive then dead

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if you don't like it well, you can pl me, but I'm better alive then dead

these lines contradict beeteedubz

also i think you are who i think you are

i think

[Mikan Tsumiki]

also i think you are who i think you are

Yeah no shit the way I write my catchup posts I can only name two people who do that.

One of them is MoI.
The other is me.
Guess I just suck at doing the hidden alt roleplaying thing.

[Transcend]

*opens up a jar of animal crackers*

it's okay no worries

[Bulbazak]

@Mikan: You don't like Momo? I like Momo.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

@Mikan: You don't like Momo? I like Momo.

Are you illiterate?

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hey guys if you don't know momo read his signature and i can testify that all those quotes are true

[Transcend]

why are you being so feisty this game?

is it cause i didn't buy the frosted animal crackers :'[

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I-I'm sorry I'm just moody please tie my legs together!

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sounds kinda kinky

[Bulbazak]

@Mikan: You don't like Momo? I like Momo.

Are you illiterate?

That was a hint for you to go further into your Momo read.

[RachMarie]

@ Trans

what do you mean about the stone age? I am not THAT old, dude

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@ Trans

what do you mean about the stone age? I am not THAT old, dude

i meant that komitsu whatever dropped her gimmick very early in the game hehehehe

[Desperado]

wake me up when i can vote luv

[Surreptitious]

Group A	Group B	Group C
EddieFenix Assemblerotws Bulbazak WhyMafia Elliberetta InactionDan Creature	Majiffy Rautherdir SnarkySnowman Thor665 momo Lil Uzi Vert ConManMick	vonflare Desperado RachMarie checkersman7 Transcend Ginngie Mikan Tsumiki

Vote Count 1.4

Group A (0): [L-11]

Group B (9): checkersman7, Ginngie, InactionDan, Desperado, Mikan Tsumiki, WhyMafia, Majiffy, momo, RachMarie [L-2]

Group C (7): Transcend, ConManMick, Assemblerotws, Bulbezak, Thor665, SnarkySnowman, Rautherdir [L-4]

Not Voting (5): EddieFenix, Elliberetta, Creature, Lil Uzi Vert, vonflare

DPI ends in (expired on 2017-11-19 19:13:00)

DPII ends in (expired on 2017-11-26 19:13:00)

Mod Notes

Creature is V/LA until 11/15

Ginngie is V/LA until 11/17

[Transcend]

there's 4 people i wana lynch into next dimension and none of them are in group B

:think:

[Ginngie]

there's 4 people i wana lynch into next dimension and none of them are in group B

:think:

considering there is 2 scum confirmed in group B, this sounds like a personal problem

[Transcend]

i have a lot of trs in B and if i was lynching in that group, i'd be lynching a null read

[Ginngie]

considering there is 2 scum confirmed in group B, this sounds like a personal problem

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: c

[Mikan Tsumiki]

P-Please vote for C, Desperado is openwolfing ok I'm sorry!

[Transcend]

disagree