Open 775: Hard-Boiled Eggs [Game Over]

[Iconeum]

actually more like

looker in easter eggs, allomancer to rotten eggs, and ejji in top dog eggs

[Iconeum]

ish

[72offsuit]

if you highlight

Wow, best thing since sliced bread

[72offsuit]

I'm still doing a read through but these are my impressions so far. Depending on how Looker responds to me, I'm almost sure she's town. I've read her correctly from just a few posts in the past 3-4 games she's been in. Ico is playing completely different than what I've seen as scum. I've barely read any of the Easter Eggs' posts.

Deviled eggs

(the best kind of eggs)
Madoka
DkKoba
Iconeum
Looker

Easter Eggs

Tet
Allomancer
72offsuit
Battle Mage
Aloratom
Hiraki

Rotten Eggs

happyorange
DrDolittle
Almostejji

Ye, not bad.

[72offsuit]

like, put looker down in easter eggs and switch allomancer with ejji and that's probably good

Better.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: orange

L-3

tum tum tuuuuuum

[Iconeum]

People should stop talking about roles, it doesn't benefit village and gives the werewolves more information than they deserve about who is or isn't what role. If you feel the need to discuss the setup, do so in a way that doesn't spew you as not X role. Hider outing is a terrible idea, optimal play for hider is to hide behind their strongest townread each night unless that player is vulnerable to a nightkill and if hider outs then it becomes very simple to narrow down who they are going to visit at night. Vigilante is also a lot more power for town than tracker, and the vigilante should be shooting the counterwagon each night, so as long as the vigilante is doing their job there should never be any real risk of the vigilante inadvertently hitting the hider. Detective/psychologist is going to have false positives with a vigilante around but that should never be a serious issue when claims happen, as long as they are sensible and don't out on day 2 or day 3 if they happen to get an early result.

This whole game is a soup of ??? but at this rate I'll probably end up voting hiraki at the end of the day, don't know if their weird attempts to gaslight mage by calling them an idiot then insisting they aren't being rude by doing so actually make them a wolf given the way people seem to be behaving in general in this game, but I can see a world where they're going the discredit etc route as a wolf either because they want to make it easier to mislynch mage or because they want to dumpster mage's thread standing. Don't see any reason for them to do it as village other than out of simple mean spiritedness. Don't really know what my read on mage is, think I'd probably be townreading them if it weren't for the peformative way they've been engaging with people. Don't know if they're consciously presenting themselves in a performative manner or if I'm just perceiving their personality that way, or something else.

These are town posts

why? because they are all mech talk?

[Allomancer]

I think I might lock AlmostEjj as scum from this. First of all, aside from Dks other posts, this post in particular did not come off as arrogant. Key phrases: potential strategy, more experienced, established strategies. He was clearly looking for input. Second, this explanation is way overdone/long winded. I think Ejj is hypersensitive scum who felt the need to overjustify himself. You can tell this by the way he felt the need to explicitly show that he didn't know he was town by going through the town and scum scenarios instead of simply explaining it as a whole. Third, the reasoning doesn't make sense. I really doubt townEjj thought this: "to see if it’s possible to make them follow a slightly worse one :/"

I think it kind of did come off as a humblebrag as ejj points out. Yes he's looking for input, but he's also pointing out that he's already thought of a strategy and seems pretty confident in it.

[72offsuit]

like, put looker down in easter eggs and switch allomancer with ejji and that's probably good

Better.

Hm, actually not after rereading the whole thread.

[Iconeum]

like, put looker down in easter eggs and switch allomancer with ejji and that's probably good

Better.

Hm, actually not after rereading the whole thread.

go on?

[72offsuit]

like, put looker down in easter eggs and switch allomancer with ejji and that's probably good

Better.

Hm, actually not after rereading the whole thread.

go on?

Gonna take me ages. Its all scribbled on a super messy paperpad.

[Iconeum]

a TL;DR maybe?

[72offsuit]

Townread
DK

Townlean
Tet
Madoka

Null
Ico
Looker
HO

Null-scum
Hiraki

Scumlean
Allom

Scumread
DDL
Alora
Ejji

[72offsuit]

Voila. Thats it. No more to come.

[72offsuit]

Tet
Townleaned for the setup mechanical plan
But then basically coasted off that 1 post. NAI posts, until finally exchange with Ico in posts 379-394 felt genuinely like town.
Specifically the fact it seemed like and unplanned/not calculated/off the cuff to use hirakis term.

386 also in particular gave me townie vibes. Regarding the purpose and weight/intention of votes, rather than votes for the sake of votes.
Agree with (their) assessment, a lot of votes without substance, wagons joined without much reasoning
Noone really providing great reasons why others should join a wagon.

[72offsuit]

Madoka
Initially read 75 as pro-town, felt like usefull contribution regarding thoughts on setup.
On re-read it feels lamisty. I feel like my green coloured posting was pretty self explanatory, and feel all the questions were just questions for the sake of questions.
sake of questions - so slightly scummy post.

137 questioning my nonsensical 98 felt pro-town.
272 and 274:
a) Feel genuine town motivation here
b) This is the sort of post I've made several times as town
c) Agree with the scumread on DDL

284 comparing HO's post to a scum-flipping similar post in another game feels town motivated.

[72offsuit]

Townread
DK

Townlean
Tet
BM
Madoka

Null
Ico
Looker
HO

Null-scum
Hiraki

Scumlean
Allom

Scumread
DDL
Alora
Ejji

EBWOP - forgot BM

[72offsuit]

BM
78 and 82 - Slightly townie - agreed with his reasoning/mindset Re: the push on orange. His view of DK being aggressive and overcoinfident felt genuine.

125 and 131 - Slightly scummy - felt forced / the sort of thing scum prepares and then didnt even follow the thread to see allom had responded

174 - Slightly scummy - answer to my question wasnt really satisfactory, didnt get a town vibe from the response at all. Then I felt like he was buddying me
at the end of the post regarding me being possibly half right in Allom read

206 Townie vibe- the confbias consideration feels like someone coming from a town mindset

261 Significantly townie vibe - The analysis of the Orange wagon feels very pro-town and I agree with the rationale.
Then he goes on to say DK is scummy... lol. I think his read is still genuine, just wrong.

281 Townie vibe- Having a go at Hiraki actually oddly feels pro-town to me. Doesn't care about buddying hiraki or trying to put him onside.

[Madoka]

I think I might lock AlmostEjj as scum from this. First of all, aside from Dks other posts, this post in particular did not come off as arrogant. Key phrases: potential strategy, more experienced, established strategies. He was clearly looking for input. Second, this explanation is way overdone/long winded. I think Ejj is hypersensitive scum who felt the need to overjustify himself. You can tell this by the way he felt the need to explicitly show that he didn't know he was town by going through the town and scum scenarios instead of simply explaining it as a whole. Third, the reasoning doesn't make sense. I really doubt townEjj thought this: "to see if it’s possible to make them follow a slightly worse one :/"

I think it kind of did come off as a humblebrag as ejj points out. Yes he's looking for input, but he's also pointing out that he's already thought of a strategy and seems pretty confident in it.

Even still, his reasoning for

why

Dk made his post doesn't make sense. Also, the fact that he felt the need to explain each scenario is a newbie scum tell.

[happyorange]

BM
78 and 82 - Slightly townie - agreed with his reasoning/mindset Re: the push on orange. His view of DK being aggressive and overcoinfident felt genuine.

125 and 131 - Slightly scummy - felt forced / the sort of thing scum prepares and then didnt even follow the thread to see allom had responded

174 - Slightly scummy - answer to my question wasnt really satisfactory, didnt get a town vibe from the response at all. Then I felt like he was buddying me
at the end of the post regarding me being possibly half right in Allom read

206 Townie vibe- the confbias consideration feels like someone coming from a town mindset

261 Significantly townie vibe - The analysis of the Orange wagon feels very pro-town and I agree with the rationale.
Then he goes on to say DK is scummy... lol. I think his read is still genuine, just wrong.

281 Townie vibe- Having a go at Hiraki actually oddly feels pro-town to me. Doesn't care about buddying hiraki or trying to put him onside.

That was annoying. I fixed your post links for you.

[72offsuit]

Ico
150 Townie vibe - agreed with his read regarding Allom posting some superficial reads after i questioned him about his lack of scumhunting

152 Townie vibe - questioning of DDL's lack of posting WIM feels town motivated

185 Scummy vibe - basically agree with Hiraki's 187 . The vote feels awkward and out of place.
Initially liked the vote on Allom but it just feels a bit off to me now.

189 Scummy vibe -
Don;t really agree with the fencesitting accusation here - BM's rationale felt genuine here.
Don;t really see BM being aggressive and overly confident. Don't particularly see how that is scummy behaviour either even if it was there.

Don't like the phrasing "and this is just piling onto what you want to be a case"
- Is this not what town is meant to do? Look for scummy behaviour in their scum reads?

I really wanna do want a dkkoba wagon once we're done with allomancer
- Don;t like this last phrase, its as if the Alom wagon/lynch is going to go through, and as if its already a done deal.

362
Townie vibe - Feels like its coming from a town mindset, that DK should be looking for town reads

Townie vibe on Exchange with tet in posts 379 to 394 felt genuinely like town, and occured in real time.


Probably a Null-townlean overall actually.

[72offsuit]

Looker - Pretty much 100% NAI posts.

[Madoka]

oof that's a big post

I wanna say that I respectfully disagree with your ejjilmost scumread, I was townreading that based off of tone and the post related to hider claiming (which didn't benefit scum AT ALL)

i like the position of most of your reads, kinda
it's early for a full readlist

I don't think the hider post us AI since Dk had already begun discussing optimal strategy. As for tone, it us different from his town games where he is more inquisitive / hunter-like. Here it had an awkward, overdoness to it. If you look at his other games, his posts are much more succinct.

[72offsuit]

HO
171 Scummy vibe -Fence sitting - 0 reads.

223 Townie - vibe - Feel townie attitude saying he is leaning towards lynching Hiraki and his theories of 'gaslighting' BM and setting up a mislynch of BM
Agree with his difficulty reading into BM.
It took me ages to come to a conclusion as to where my thoughts were at Regarding the slot.

312 Townie - vibe - Agree with the thoughts on DDL and his odd responses to Madoka's read and questioning. Feels like genuine scumhunting.

455 Scummy vibe Feels like garbage reasoning to place a vote on me after several players have expressed sentiment for voting for me.
The timing seems awfully convenient for !scumHO, given my TvT read/post occured way back in post 114.

[DrDolittle]

yall be scumreading me you should vote me