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[Malakittens]

Vote: JasonT

I'm out of RVS now.

PEdit - and it pains me, because I want to vote the flashwagon - but I think JasonT actually looks worse.
That said, I'll agree with the core idea of voting anyone derp enough to random vote so...meh.
I think Jason i sprobably actually scum though - look at that post again.

Eh, Jason didn't feel too bad to me. I can agree that he was looking cautious, but that's about it. I'm just not seeing it super scummy.

I have to agree with the random number generator thing, but it's a thing for some people, but I don't see why he didn't just "vote" randomly. It's basically the same thing.
I didn't like the multiple posts in the span of a few minutes that could have easily been put in one post though.

VOTE: JasonT

Sheeping Thor.

HYPE

This feels... so fake...

VOTE: Micc

Anyways, I am at work so I'll be back later!

What do you think of the Jason case?

What DO YOU think of the Jason case? I'm just happy we are out of RVS tbh and Thor took us out so we can get to the "meat" of the game. I didn't agree with it enough to sheep btw.

I'm a little put of by the fact that Dragons is excited to play the game but isnt willing to help move us into the actual game.

I'm a little bit put off at the fact you are willing to take jabs, but you're not putting your money where your mouth is. Instead of trying to interact you're willing to 'sheep' someone on P1, whom you don't even know the alignment of.

I'm a little put of by the fact that Dragons is excited to play the game but isnt willing to help move us into the actual game.

I don't see how I'm not. If I were to join on the jason wagon I would be dishonest. I have no reason to move my vote quite yet.

What I am doing is trying to figure out Thor, trying to figure out your motivation based on your blatant sheeping without your own commentary and your nitpick shots like the post quoted, and thinking about the sleepykrew wagon that formed from my die roll.

I don't really see you trying to figure out Micc's motivation. You didn't ask him a question until now. So how are you trying to sort out his motivation?

I also snicker at the fact you think you're the reason why the SK wagon formed and that it couldn't have just been random instead.

UNVOTE: SK

Can someone finish my shift so I can play mafia instead? I'm so ready because I'm off for two days after this shift today!

[Save The Dragons]

I didn't like the multiple posts in the span of a few minutes that could have easily been put in one post though.

How is how I format my posts alignment related?

[Save The Dragons]

I don't really see you trying to figure out Micc's motivation. You didn't ask him a question until now. So how are you trying to sort out his motivation?

I'm thinking about it.

[Save The Dragons]

I also snicker at the fact you think you're the reason why the SK wagon formed and that it couldn't have just been random instead.

I'm not sitting here trying to take credit for it; a wagon literally formed and it started with a die roll, I never implied it was BECAUSE of my die roll.

But it is weird that two people just added their votes onto SleepyKrew, that is all.

[Thor665]

Thor:

Do you typically imply people are stupid when they have a different opinion than you?

Depends on their opinion - but, yes, people's thoughts tends to qualify my belief in how brilliant or silly I find them. I think...everyone does this?
Also, on a very broad scale - by definition people would tend to think people who disagree with them are dumb. People who think people that agree with them are dumb would be calling themselves dumb, which is kind of dumb.

I find this question kind of dumb.

I am not jumping on your wagon cuz I disagree with it. Does that make more sense?

That's different than your initial commentary of saying what he said was okay because "RVS".
Do you disagree with it for any particular reasons - or just "RVS".
Because if only "RVS" then, yeah, I think you need to defend that belief.

Thor, I hate to repeat the point I brought up in 40, but do you realize you completely ignored the post that answered your question 24 just so you could harp on the fact I used the "sanctity" without definition? Is your intent to libel me?

Your commentary there was so much on the fence that it didn't excite me.

But right now I do think Thor is maybe extremely trying to over justify things in his posts.

Okay - what conclusions do you draw from this thought, if any?
Clearly I'm not scummy, because you're not voting me.
So do you agree that your first post was questionable?

[Thor665]

But it is weird that two people just added their votes onto SleepyKrew, that is all.

So that does not fall under "sanctity" in your mind?
I repeat my need to understand sanctity.

[Malakittens]

I didn't like the multiple posts in the span of a few minutes that could have easily been put in one post though.

How is how I format my posts alignment related?

It was just spam that wasn't needed early game when you could have just consolidated it into one post. I mean I don't really care because I'm used to people spam-posting in my games, but wasn't expecting it as much during TM.

I don't really see you trying to figure out Micc's motivation. You didn't ask him a question until now. So how are you trying to sort out his motivation?

I'm thinking about it.

Interesting.

Preedit:

You distinctly said "MY" dice roll.

Oh right you never played a game with me from the beginning, carry on.~

[Save The Dragons]

Depends on their opinion - but, yes, people's thoughts tends to qualify my belief in how brilliant or silly I find them. I think...everyone does this?
Also, on a very broad scale - by definition people would tend to think people who disagree with them are dumb. People who think people that agree with them are dumb would be calling themselves dumb, which is kind of dumb.

I find this question kind of dumb.

I disagree, I think people are capable of having a different opinion than I am and still be smart, but really this is neither here nor there. My point is that I have a different opinion, you aren't validating that, and I'm not sure where that comes from.

I am not jumping on your wagon cuz I disagree with it. Does that make more sense?

That's different than your initial commentary of saying what he said was okay because "RVS".
Do you disagree with it for any particular reasons - or just "RVS".
Because if only "RVS" then, yeah, I think you need to defend that belief.

I disagree with the wagon because I don't think that his goofy post makes him scummy. I don't think I'm being unclear at all with this viewpoint.

[Save The Dragons]

You distinctly said "MY" dice roll.

because I literally rolled the die? I don't see how that still implies I meant that I was the grand propagator of the wagon, I'm literally stating a series of events.

[SleepyKrew]

Thor, thoughts on the recent developments between Trojan and I?

[jasonT1981]

Okay - what conclusions do you draw from this thought, if any?
Clearly I'm not scummy, because you're not voting me.
So do you agree that your first post was questionable?

You really want me to justify and answer questions about a post that included fire bad - scum bad - scum confirmed... lol??

I don't think you're scummy as such, but I do think you are over trying and drawing attention to yourself.

While I don't agree SK is scummy due to his first post. I am a bit worried that he has been asked a few times what his reads/thoughts are and has not given any independant thoughts right now.

Right now though, if I was going to see anyone as scum it would be

vote:Micc

As I pointed out, its not the sheeping that bothers me, hell if someone didn't sheep thor I would have been surprised, thus is the nature of RVS.

What is bothering me is #27 where he attacks Dragons for, is exactly what he has done himself, nothing to actually try and move the game forward.

[Save The Dragons]

But it is weird that two people just added their votes onto SleepyKrew, that is all.

So that does not fall under "sanctity" in your mind?
I repeat my need to understand sanctity.

I don't seem to be voting for or attacking the two players who voted for SleepyKrew so I'm not sure I understand why you think that does or doesn't imply sanctity.

I've repeated myself many times. I don't know how much clearer I can make myself. I have a different read than you do on Jason and I'm starting to think that you're being intentionally dense. I don't think that people are immune from suspicion, but I also don't think that I'm going to catch scum from one post, and I certainly don't think you will, no offense. That's extremely unlikely. I don't think his post looks like what you think it is, partially because it occurred in RVS. You are certainly allowed to draw reads from RVS and whatever as you like, I have not in recent memory, and I think a lot more can be derived from the discussion that stems after RVS than saying "this RVS post looks fishy."

So I'm done with this topic, and would appease you to reread my posts if you are still unclear.

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Micc

[Boonskiies]

what the heck? we're all just unvoting out of RVS already? And why is their a wagon on Micc?

[Boonskiies]

Jason, are you concluding that you are town reading someone based off of 1 post said in the first 3 pages of the game?

[Fenchurch]

Yayyyyyy!

reads:
SleepyKrew - prob town
Thor - maybe town
jason - maybe scum
Mala - maybe scum

not being read yet:
Micc
Egg
Dragons
Trojan Horse

not posted yet:
Pieguy
sthar
Delta
Boon

VOTE: jason

Save The Dragons, there's a reasonably established argument that dice-voting in RVS is anti-town.
Were you aware of this already?
What do you think of it?

[Fenchurch]

jason - when did you last play scum?

[Save The Dragons]

I am sorry, Malakittens. I'm not trying to be belligerent, I'm trying to clarify what I meant.

My games as of late have been characterized of me being angry and fighting people and it has made me feel a lot worse about myself as a person. I do not appreciate being talked down to. It is clear we are not jiving, Thor, but if you are town I would appreciate you pack up the attitude if you are unable to understand me.

[Boonskiies]

Alright. That makes me feel better. ^ For some reason I thought Jason was already slipping through cracks. Also...I forgot to do my RVS...


VOTE: Pieguyn

Let's please be both town this time...haha. I don't want to have to deal with you being scum.

[Fenchurch]

what the heck? we're all just unvoting out of RVS already? And why is their a wagon on Micc?

I don't think there is a wagon on Micc. Micc has 1 vote, jason has 4.

[Boonskiies]

was referring to Fen's post makes me feel better.

[Boonskiies]

Oh, what did I read then? Haha. I thought I read everyone that started the wagons unvote.

[Save The Dragons]

Save The Dragons, there's a reasonably established argument that dice-voting in RVS is anti-town.
Were you aware of this already?
What do you think of it?

I do not know what the argument is so I have no opinion. I do not see much of a difference between me rolling a die and me saying "hey SK! What's up bud! Imma vote you now" or me saying "I hate people who's names start with the letter J, so it's time to vote Jason."

pedit: micc has two votes.

[Boonskiies]

ah, that was sleepykrew they all unvoted. That changes things...

[Boonskiies]

eh not really.