Open 696: Cosmopolitan [END]

[Jules and Vincent]

VOTE: Havingfitz

OMGUS doesn't agree with me. And people who OMGUS vote against someone who has voted for them, doesn't sit well either.

- Kop

EBWOP

- Kop

[osuka]

I'm sort of tossing between osuka and iisq. Iisq with the L-1 stuff, osuka with the voting himself (probably shitposty but it still makes me a little paranoid).

For now I'll go VOTE: osuka since I don't know what Iisq is on.

p.s sup paul

out of all the things you could've pushed on/voted me for, you choose the fact that i voted myself

unbelievable. Just when I thought i'd seen it all

[Creature]

Already got a scumread.

However, as always, not gonna tell who rn.

[osuka]

Spoiler: quote

Cloaked in wifom? I'd say I've been pretty open about everything. You're the one creating wifom by suggesting that I intended to hammer.

Also you are overrated.

that's bullshit

the setup, shitty as it was, was obviously meant to give you obvious opportunity (actually more than one) to question the obvious shit you were gonna be given following the obviously reckless vote to l-1
"why did you vote/'pretend' to quickhammer" -> "I knew it wasn't a hammer,

why would I draw attention to it

" (25 and 31)

italicized part is wifom

i'm not gonna explain how it works to you but you obviously did it and wifom on the first page after voting someone to l-1 (and believing it was a hammer) is mind bogglingly scummy

like on a scale going from 1 to confscum, you're the lynch today

It's not wifom. It's evidence. Wifom is when you have two choices, you pick one and try to convince people you picked the other. I didn't have two choices; either I thought I was hammering or I didn't.
I know which it was. And to prove to you which it was, I'm showing something I did that makes sense if it's a test but is idiotic if I think it's real. HOW. IS. THAT. WIFOM.

Now you're mixing two arguments here. Nobody can deny that I was at least being a little reckless. I still think scum would need to be ballsy to hammer and go into night with no idea who to kill, with a wrong kill being devastating. Not to mention there's always the fear they'd be hammering the other team. But that alone is a very poor reason to call me today's lynch.

Since you're either at least slightly dense, or pretending to be so, I'll break the order of events down for you:

1. You vote him to l-1 to what looks like a hammer
2. You post "quickest day ever?"
3. Your vote turns out to not be hammer
4. You get called out on it

WIFOM: you use 2 as cover, and it brings up the question: did you do it because you meant to say that? Or did you do it because you wanted to look scummy and wanted someone to say that your shit is wifom, just so you could refute it and look town? And so it begins

If you can't see it at this point then I'm sorry: in that case, nothing can be done.

[osuka]

pebwop because I'm on my phone and didn't see 52

I'll bet 5 bucks with all of you that creatures scumread is on me

[Creature]

Still not telling who it is.

[iiSq5024]

Or did you do it because you wanted to look scummy and wanted someone to say that your shit is wifom, just so you could refute it and look town?

I don't even have words for this. It's wifom because I might be trying to get someone to call it wifom so I can prove that it isn't wifom.

Also I'm laughing at you trying to convince me of the motivation behind MY action, and then saying that nothing can be done about it when I refuse to be convinced.

[osuka]

Still betting it's on me

I'm not pressuring you to say it, don't let my gambling addiction intimidate you

[osuka]

Or did you do it because you wanted to look scummy and wanted someone to say that your shit is wifom, just so you could refute it and look town?

I don't even have words for this. It's wifom because I might be trying to get someone to call it wifom so I can prove that it isn't wifom.

Also I'm laughing at you trying to convince me of the motivation behind MY action, and then saying that nothing can be done about it when I refuse to be convinced.

Sure, because in this game nobody has ulterior motives

Foo fighters kinda sucks by the way. They have like one or two good songs but that's about it

[iiSq5024]

Yes but I know that I don't have ulterior motives and trying to convince me that I do is pointless.

It would make more sense if your given ulterior motive made sense though, but it doesn't. I'm trying to look scummy so I can get attacked for it and then look towny? That's not wifom it's just stupid.

[NotTheRealPaul]

pebwop because I'm on my phone and didn't see 52

I'll bet 5 bucks with all of you that creatures scumread is on me

hah u think i have five bucks. i wish!

ps i think ur taking this wifom thing too far. pretty sure quickest day ever was just a joke.

[osuka]

Yes but I know that I don't have ulterior motives and trying to convince me that I do is pointless.

It would make more sense if your given ulterior motive made sense though, but it doesn't. I'm trying to look scummy so I can get attacked for it and then look towny? That's not wifom it's just stupid.

It's pretty silly to think that I'm trying to convince you of your motives, or convince you to say what your actual motives are (or whether they're any different than the ones you say you have). I'm trying to convince people of what I think your motives are, and that's kind of how the game works

Looking scummy as town has its applications, such as not getting nkd n1. It could also be a consequence of bad play, in which case it's probably unintentional

Saying that you have no ulterior motives or stating that something you're being accused of is untrue just because it is completely worthless is not a good defense

[iiSq5024]

I mean, it wasn't supposed to be a defense. "If you can't see it at this point then I'm sorry: in that case, nothing can be done." sounds like you are trying to convince me.

Anyway, I don't think this argument is getting anywhere. You've made your stance clear even though I think it makes no sense, so I guess other people can decide for themselves. In the meantime, I don't want to be distracted by it anymore. Do you have any other reads?

[osuka]

ntrp is permaconfscum and i have a scumlean on myself

this osuka guy was a townlean but the last page or so was super weird

[havingfitz]

I'm not really voting Creature (his lie is nai to me) but I'm not sure where I want to vote and unvoting isn't an option. So I'll vote Snarky who has none.

VOTE: Snarky

[Creature]

Sorta thought we should wagon someone who's likely going to do something when pressured.

[NotTheRealPaul]

creature tell me who to vote

[Creature]

Wherever you think will give results to move the game forward.

[nykus]

pebwop because I'm on my phone and didn't see 52

I'll bet 5 bucks with all of you that creatures scumread is on me

hah u think i have five bucks. i wish!

ps i think ur taking this wifom thing too far.

pretty sure quickest day ever was just a joke

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Scum team a) paul, iisq
Scum team b) osuka, ?

VOTE: paul

[NotTheRealPaul]

are u serious fykus?

[nykus]

Sorry

[nykus]

Ok ill explain my reads.

Pauls lowkey defense of iisq could be seen as a newbscum tell (no offense paul).

Osukas scum leaning himself and self depricating could be lowkey signalling to the other half of his team that he is in fact scum too

[nykus]

These reads will probably change but it shitposting time and i gotta use whats available

[NotTheRealPaul]

Fair enough

[NotTheRealPaul]

i didnt think i was reaally defending him but i guess sure.

*shrug*

also id like to add my scum!game is much better than my town!game