hi, i'm large normal 242. and i'm over with.

[Cape90]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I usually find

early = town
later = scum

[Frogsterking]

Frogsterking - "I may or may not post my survey start"

Gamma Emerald - Comment on elaborating something later.

Speaking of moving the game forward, cape can you justify townleaning these two above in some way that makes it seem like you

didn't

just throw a bunch of names together?

I find posting about posting the survey start thing to be completely pointless if you are mafia here as that part can easily be left out. It felt like random insecurity over... nothing which to me says towny concern.

As far as the read on Gamma, I guess it shows this thing I see town usually do to where they would have these "secret" reads on people that they want to share

later

. I just hardly see mafia do this.

Okay.

[Frogsterking]

I think Cape is probably telling the truth, so kind of a free sort for me considering I didn't have them in my "can read" pile.

[Nero Cain]

telling the truth about 50?

[Frogsterking]

telling the truth about 50?

Yeah

[Fennec]

Alright Post 50 or so reads (Take all with a grain of salt by a massive quantity, its too early to get full reads)

Cape - Pulling a lot of reads out the backside. and scum do that a lot. also, its so early so I doubt you can get any "I'll Explain Later" Level reads. Generally can't tell between town/scum with this guy. its hard to read him.
Frog - He is actually asking some important questions, and his reads aren't out his backside too much. I'm Leaning to town with him.
Nero Cain - I can't accurately get a read off him, but he feels dodgy.
SirRhett - Starts off with a joke, just like in the newbie game he is in. although, that joke is a bit different. in the game he did that joke (It was basically joking around that he was scum because his predecessor was read as scum quite early on) and was a bit like a pair like in that game. this read relies on that game he is in to progress more foward though, but i do have a meta read that i can't say is town/scum at the same time, because that game isn't over yet. Although, this is a resource that I might use to read him, the game is like D1, so this is the one to take the most grains of salt (For now at least!)
Everyone else? Needs to post more, and I need to read a little more about them and their meta first.

[Nero Cain]

don't talk about on going games

[Nero Cain]

Fennec prob town though. Scum might try to avoid breaking site rules, yeah?

[Frogsterking]

Slow start, wouldn't like spamming the thread too much but

Why did you perceive that it was a slow start?

PEdit

Fennec you can't use games which haven't been completed yet against someone, it's considered OGI (out of game influence)

Completed games are fair play for data mining meta tells, as well as linking to and analyzing, though.

[Frogsterking]

Fennec prob town though. Scum might try to avoid breaking site rules, yeah?

I agree. Do you think I'm jumping ahead of myself as far as cape goes?

[Fennec]

^ Noticed a heck ton of issues with grammar and with spelling.
So this is the one to take the most grains of salt with*
The multiple Lowercase I mistakes because i'll be honest I slightly rushed typing it
And yes, I'm only pointing out the SirRhett one for later. do not take it as a read right now, extremely Developing read there. Take it with 10000 Grains of salt of the size of mars, please. I'm listing it down in case it is somehow useful. And yes, its of a D1 Game. I don't think I should be using it as discussion, so I won't use that game unless its important to a read on him. I'm gonna read some of your meta soon, but not right now.


Also i just realise I broke a rule, won't happen again. also Nero's read is kinda bad too. Ignore that read post's 2nd half. sorry about that, I be dense.

[Gamma Emerald]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I usually find

early = town
later = scum

Is there a reason you’re making an exception for me then, assuming I’ve read this right?

[Frogsterking]

It's all good Fennec your reads make sense and it seems like you know how to play these games.

[Cape90]

telling the truth about 50?

I will try to elaborate but this is also just kind of a meta thing I have observed as it isn't black and white.

I’ll explain in a bit

So Gamma said this about

I'm gonna need more popcorn to watch all this.
I'm afraid to poke my head or the evil teddy will have my soul

interesting

this post yeah?

What I think makes it skew null-town is the obvious lack of content that there is, ultimately, the thing Gamma commented on is not at all important to the game as that particular post just kind of exists, my town lean on Charloux more came from 24 just coming off strange.

So what makes this type of comment suspicious later on? Well I would say when we get out of RVS it gets to this territory as it could mark that scum
A) "need to go now goodbye" aka don't wanna play/don't feel like making meaningful content
B) Don't want too think too hard about their answer right now then and there. This would usually be more of a substantive thing like for instance lets say Person A makes a detailed read about Person B out of RVS and then Person C says "I don't like this read on Person B, elaborating later". This is leaning scum indicative for me.

Though I have had effort reads bite me in the butt since town can be lazy too.

Also if you think that I am married to the townreads I made within the 50 posts of the game, you are funny

[Cape90]

Generally can't tell between town/scum with this guy. its hard to read him.

you have played with me? Or just the playstyle I am doing right now?

[Frogsterking]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I usually find

early = town
later = scum

Is there a reason you’re making an exception for me then, assuming I’ve read this right?

I'm going to go ahead and Town read Gamma with

very low

certainty for asking a question which seems unlikely to be scum motivated.

PEdit

I'm going to go ahead and flip my read on Cape

VOTE: Cape

[Cape90]

Slow start, wouldn't like spamming the thread too much but

Why did you perceive that it was a slow start?

PEdit

Fennec you can't use games which haven't been completed yet against someone, it's considered OGI (out of game influence)

Completed games are fair play for data mining meta tells, as well as linking to and analyzing, though.

been playing a lot of turbo style games recently so I think it's that :p

[Cape90]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I usually find

early = town
later = scum

Is there a reason you’re making an exception for me then, assuming I’ve read this right?

We are not out of RVS

I townleaned you

early = town

this does not contradict any statement I made

[Frogsterking]

been playing a lot of turbo style games recently so I think it's that :p

I don't believe you, sorry. I played thousands of hours on EM and I never had an impulse to instantly go "oh damn these 4 people are Town for xyz" unless I was scum.

[Cape90]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I usually find

early = town
later = scum

Is there a reason you’re making an exception for me then, assuming I’ve read this right?

I'm going to go ahead and Town read Gamma with

very low

certainty for asking a question which seems unlikely to be scum motivated.

PEdit

I'm going to go ahead and flip my read on Cape

VOTE: Cape

You are being swayed by Nero of all people?

[Frogsterking]

What makes you think I'm being influenced by Nero?

[marcistar]

why is being swayed by nero even a bad thing?

[Fennec]

Yeah i went from Town-Leaning to Null to Scum-Leaning for cape within 30 posts. I was finding it kinda dodgy but could of been town, but now I'm thinking it is plain dodgy. none of them made sense and were literally 20-30 posts in. and yes Early/Late blah blah can be true mattering on the player no surprise there. And also, Frog seems Town-Leaning to me, and I fully agree with him. also, the Post 69 is Dodgy as all hell.

VOTE: Cape

[Frogsterking]

why is being swayed by nero even a bad thing?

Do Cape and I look TvT yes or no?

[Cape90]

been playing a lot of turbo style games recently so I think it's that :p

I don't believe you, sorry. I played thousands of hours on EM and I never had an impulse to instantly go "oh damn these 4 people are Town for xyz" unless I was scum.

I don't do this style of RVS reads often at all because I usually don't feel inclined too. Oh and you are talking EM? 1) We've had way more time to post well-thought out posts over here, I mean cmon it's been hours. 2) I do make reads like this on m.gg early on in certain conditions, if you don't have at least 2 solid townreads on day 2 in a typical 16 player, then usually it's a skill issue :^).

Also

BlueKang would like a word with you

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread

And you know, BongWater made the same read you just did on BlueKang and flipped scum!

Curious