Open 895 - 09:12 PM - Postgame

[DragonEater70]

1.02

Votecount 1.02

Black (2): Cook, ssbm_Kyouko
Mizuki (2): Elements, Doc and Drew
gob (2): gob, shaddowez
Cook (1): Mizuki

Not Voting (2): Black, Claptastik

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-12-12 17:30:45).

[Claptastik]

V/LA until Tuesday afternoon or so.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Honestly limming me here might be the most optimal play

Because I am town, and if the mafia knew my capabilities they would know I win here if left alive for more than 1 day as town. So mafia should kill me tonight.

Therefore the most optimal thing for me to do is die and give info on my way out, since I can give more info being the mislim than I can being NK'd.

What do you all think?

Is anyone in the playerlist familiar with you as town? You've rolled scum in like every completed game on site iirc - maybe one town game?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Honestly limming me here might be the most optimal play

Because I am town, and if the mafia knew my capabilities they would know I win here if left alive for more than 1 day as town. So mafia should kill me tonight.

Therefore the most optimal thing for me to do is die and give info on my way out, since I can give more info being the mislim than I can being NK'd.

What do you all think?

I think it's an open setup and you're full of shit.

What does it being an open setup have to do with gob's post?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I guess speaking of it being an open setup, I'm not sure if everyone knows we just finished this setup and won in 2 Days, half of this playerlist was in that game, also modded by Alianna. I think it was mentioned in her /in to mod in open queue.

Anyways, we hypoclaimed as 2/4/8/10 roles on the clock due to Mafia Rolecop being repeated at 3/9, and due to being able to disguise some of the 1/5/7/11 claims as 2/4/8/10. I think in hindsight that it worked out well but it was mainly because we killed the Goon on D1 so we had 2 clears by the morning of D2.

It pretty quickly became apparent to me as VT with less info than scum, who one of the PRs was and fortunately due to the hypoclaims we were in a strong spot assuming I had identified the Vanilla Cop/Rolecop correctly. Turned out that I had, but I think in most cases the hypoclaiming is going to lead to the PRs being easier to find. Maybe if we D1 scum again it makes sense to hypoclaim again because of the possibility of POEing the last scum by way of innos, but short of killing scum D1 I don't think it's a good idea.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Technically scum!Gamma conceded N2 because she was mechanically guiltied in the morning

[gob]

Honestly limming me here might be the most optimal play

Because I am town, and if the mafia knew my capabilities they would know I win here if left alive for more than 1 day as town. So mafia should kill me tonight.

Therefore the most optimal thing for me to do is die and give info on my way out, since I can give more info being the mislim than I can being NK'd.

What do you all think?

Is anyone in the playerlist familiar with you as town? You've rolled scum in like every completed game on site iirc - maybe one town game?

Who cares?

Meta is pointless, just read me how I am

[ssbm_Kyouko]

You say

"if the mafia knew my capabilities"

- so if nobody knows your towngame as I suspect is the case, what is your goal in bringing this up in the first place?

[Alianna]

VOTE: Gob

Technically V/LA, will be back Monday

@mod

I'll be v/la on the 4th, 5th, 6th

V/LA until Tuesday afternoon or so.

Noted.

[gob]

You say

"if the mafia knew my capabilities"

- so if nobody knows your towngame as I suspect is the case, what is your goal in bringing this up in the first place?

Well first things first, you can know somebody's towngame from their scumgame and vice versa.

My goal was to taunt the mafia, because I think the mafia will let me live and beat them if I taunt them. They want to shut me up, so they try to beat me fair and square.

[Elements]

Gob is just town here

[gob]

Gob is just town here

I am but I urge everyone to not give simple reads on me based on tone. Just look at Topaz game. Simply giving people what they don't expect and making them manually read you is an easy way to get townread as scum. But you'll need to look at what im actually trying to accomplish with my actions, if anything.

[Elements]

Sure, but you're just town

[gob]

Sure, but you're just town

I'll keep note that you're easy to trick. Unless you're mafia here, in which case I appreciate and accept the pocket.

[Cook]

VOTE: Elements

this is a soul read for the moment

[Cook]

i'm on board for the claim game. it seems like claiming in semiopens like this is pretty vanilla for the course

[Cook]

^ invented a newd3 breaker

[gob]

VOTE: Elements

[Doc and Drew]

You say

"if the mafia knew my capabilities"

- so if nobody knows your towngame as I suspect is the case, what is your goal in bringing this up in the first place?

Well first things first, you can know somebody's towngame from their scumgame and vice versa.

My goal was to taunt the mafia, because I think the mafia will let me live and beat them if I taunt them. They want to shut me up, so they try to beat me fair and square.

It is definitely not as simple as 'they only do this as scum, never as town.....and vice versa'. Any decent player can blend in as scum, even if you are familiar with their town game.

-Doc(tor Drew)

Fyi, going forward I will be signing my posts as Doc, Gamma will sign as Drew, to go with the theme of this hydra.

[Mizuki]

elements and ccs are the second generation of not_mafia on this site

I thought Enchant was the N_M successor

[Mizuki]

You say

"if the mafia knew my capabilities"

- so if nobody knows your towngame as I suspect is the case, what is your goal in bringing this up in the first place?

Well first things first, you can know somebody's towngame from their scumgame and vice versa.

My goal was to taunt the mafia, because I think the mafia will let me live and beat them if I taunt them. They want to shut me up, so they try to beat me fair and square.

This seems like a somewhat coin-toss strategy.

[gob]

You say

"if the mafia knew my capabilities"

- so if nobody knows your towngame as I suspect is the case, what is your goal in bringing this up in the first place?

Well first things first, you can know somebody's towngame from their scumgame and vice versa.

My goal was to taunt the mafia, because I think the mafia will let me live and beat them if I taunt them. They want to shut me up, so they try to beat me fair and square.

This seems like a somewhat coin-toss strategy.

I'm always down to get fear killed Night 1. Adds to the mystique of my character.

[gob]

Can we no-lim here?

[Mizuki]

I'm curious why we should do that.

[Alianna]

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