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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:17 am

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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:20 am

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In post 49, Elements wrote: Why don't we not focus on either to begin with and just play normal mafia, then figure stuff out later in the day when we get closer to the deadline
Yeah that's what I was meaning.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:29 am

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In post 48, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 46, DragonEater70 wrote: Regardless, I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads. I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.
this is just the wrong strategy for the setup, and also if you think like this,
isn't giving out 2 townreads something scum is more likely to do?
I don't think this idea that "focusing on townreads let's scum blend in" is your actual opinion if you're giving out a TR to Appearance for giving 2 TRs early in separated posts. Pretty much everything you've posted so far feels like a performance, and to cap it off with this I just think you're trying to throw a wrench in the coalition phase.
Not really unless you think scum is more likely to give 2 TR's in regular mafia (which I don't think).


On the other hand this post feels really forced. How would me having scumreads be throwing a wrench in the formation of the coalition? If anything I'm the person working most actively on forming a coalition, considering I have 3 people in my coalition while you only have yourself.

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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:05 am

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tbh i'm scared of scum distancing in this setup.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:08 am

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elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:09 am

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ngl best thing about this setup is townhunting is easier for me.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:33 am

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In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.
half my posts are about towning T3?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:36 am

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In post 56, Elements wrote:
In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.
half my posts are about towning T3?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:36 am

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:45 am

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In post 37, Elements wrote:
In post 19, implosion wrote: T3 townish.
I thought the same things from T3's first post
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:47 am

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In post 59, T3 wrote:
In post 37, Elements wrote:
In post 19, implosion wrote: T3 townish.
I thought the same things from T3's first post
Why
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:52 am

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In post 42, DragonEater70 wrote: Actually let me just explain my Appearance read

I thought this:
In post 22, Appearance wrote: hi y'all!
will post more later
Quickly followed by this:
In post 25, Appearance wrote: implo and t3 prob town for now.
Was more likely to come from town. Felt like a towny who didn't plan to post a read or anything but had a thought so posted it.

I also think that having 2 reads is likelier to come from town than from scum, who (like implo did) would be more likely to have a single read.
I agree with the first part of this read.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:03 am

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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:31 am

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In post 56, Elements wrote:
In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.
half my posts are about towning T3?
i would say that since t3 is a consensus tr at this point, i don't see scum!you benefiting much for doing something that implo has done too and was sred for
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:32 am

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:48 am

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In post 63, Appearance wrote:
In post 56, Elements wrote:
In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.
half my posts are about towning T3?
i would say that since t3 is a consensus tr at this point, i don't see scum!you benefiting much for doing something that implo has done too and was sred for
do you have any concerns about t3 being so town read so early?
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:29 pm

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In post 52, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 48, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 46, DragonEater70 wrote: Regardless, I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads. I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.
this is just the wrong strategy for the setup, and also if you think like this,
isn't giving out 2 townreads something scum is more likely to do?
I don't think this idea that "focusing on townreads let's scum blend in" is your actual opinion if you're giving out a TR to Appearance for giving 2 TRs early in separated posts. Pretty much everything you've posted so far feels like a performance, and to cap it off with this I just think you're trying to throw a wrench in the coalition phase.
Not really unless you think scum is more likely to give 2 TR's in regular mafia (which I don't think).


On the other hand this post feels really forced.
How would me having scumreads be throwing a wrench in the formation of the coalition?
If anything I'm the person working most actively on forming a coalition, considering I have 3 people in my coalition while you only have yourself.

HURT: Kyo, implo
This is not the point I'm making. In 46, you say that we should focus scumreads more than townreads because focusing townreads lets scum blend in. At the same time, you say Appearance is town and so far all he'd done was give out 2 unexplained TRs. If you think scum blends in by focusing on TRs, you don't also think that Appearance is town. You're claiming to have one philosophy on how to play the setup that contradicts your reads.
In post 42, DragonEater70 wrote: Actually let me just explain my Appearance read

I thought this:
In post 22, Appearance wrote: hi y'all!
will post more later
Quickly followed by this:
In post 25, Appearance wrote: implo and t3 prob town for now.
Was more likely to come from town. Felt like a towny who didn't plan to post a read or anything but had a thought so posted it.

I also think that having 2 reads is likelier to come from town than from scum, who (like implo did) would be more likely to have a single read.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:26 pm

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o/ haven't felt like posting but prepare for me tomorrow. you have been warned
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:40 pm

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In post 53, Appearance wrote: tbh i'm scared of scum distancing in this setup.
this was actually something I was thinking too.

Was it klick/dragoneater that pinged you as a potential distance as well, or more of a general fear?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:41 pm

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ssbm, elements, t3 and appearance are all provisional townreads for me
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:21 pm

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In post 66, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 52, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 48, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 46, DragonEater70 wrote: Regardless, I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads. I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.
this is just the wrong strategy for the setup, and also if you think like this,
isn't giving out 2 townreads something scum is more likely to do?
I don't think this idea that "focusing on townreads let's scum blend in" is your actual opinion if you're giving out a TR to Appearance for giving 2 TRs early in separated posts. Pretty much everything you've posted so far feels like a performance, and to cap it off with this I just think you're trying to throw a wrench in the coalition phase.
Not really unless you think scum is more likely to give 2 TR's in regular mafia (which I don't think).


On the other hand this post feels really forced.
How would me having scumreads be throwing a wrench in the formation of the coalition?
If anything I'm the person working most actively on forming a coalition, considering I have 3 people in my coalition while you only have yourself.

HURT: Kyo, implo
This is not the point I'm making. In 46, you say that we should focus scumreads more than townreads because focusing townreads lets scum blend in. At the same time, you say Appearance is town and so far all he'd done was give out 2 unexplained TRs. If you think scum blends in by focusing on TRs, you don't also think that Appearance is town. You're claiming to have one philosophy on how to play the setup that contradicts your reads.
In post 42, DragonEater70 wrote: Actually let me just explain my Appearance read

I thought this:
In post 22, Appearance wrote: hi y'all!
will post more later
Quickly followed by this:
In post 25, Appearance wrote: implo and t3 prob town for now.
Was more likely to come from town. Felt like a towny who didn't plan to post a read or anything but had a thought so posted it.

I also think that having 2 reads is likelier to come from town than from scum, who (like implo did) would be more likely to have a single read.
Misrep.

I merely said we shouldn't have our entire focus on TR's, like DeasVail seemed to insinuate.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:23 pm

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In post 46, DragonEater70 wrote: Regardless,
I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads.
I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:41 pm

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In post 69, DeasVail wrote: ssbm, elements, t3 and appearance are all provisional townreads for me
Why do you TR kyo?
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:51 pm

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In post 70, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 66, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 52, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 48, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 46, DragonEater70 wrote: Regardless, I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads. I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.
this is just the wrong strategy for the setup, and also if you think like this,
isn't giving out 2 townreads something scum is more likely to do?
I don't think this idea that "focusing on townreads let's scum blend in" is your actual opinion if you're giving out a TR to Appearance for giving 2 TRs early in separated posts. Pretty much everything you've posted so far feels like a performance, and to cap it off with this I just think you're trying to throw a wrench in the coalition phase.
Not really unless you think scum is more likely to give 2 TR's in regular mafia (which I don't think).


On the other hand this post feels really forced.
How would me having scumreads be throwing a wrench in the formation of the coalition?
If anything I'm the person working most actively on forming a coalition, considering I have 3 people in my coalition while you only have yourself.

HURT: Kyo, implo
This is not the point I'm making. In 46, you say that we should focus scumreads more than townreads because focusing townreads lets scum blend in. At the same time, you say Appearance is town and so far all he'd done was give out 2 unexplained TRs. If you think scum blends in by focusing on TRs, you don't also think that Appearance is town. You're claiming to have one philosophy on how to play the setup that contradicts your reads.
In post 42, DragonEater70 wrote: Actually let me just explain my Appearance read

I thought this:
In post 22, Appearance wrote: hi y'all!
will post more later
Quickly followed by this:
In post 25, Appearance wrote: implo and t3 prob town for now.
Was more likely to come from town. Felt like a towny who didn't plan to post a read or anything but had a thought so posted it.

I also think that having 2 reads is likelier to come from town than from scum, who (like implo did) would be more likely to have a single read.
Misrep.

I merely said we shouldn't have our entire focus on TR's, like DeasVail seemed to insinuate.
I don’t think it’s intentional, but I think it’s also a misrep to suggest that I want the “entire” focus to be on townreads.

As for kyouko, I liked the assertiveness of post 48. To tell someone that they are wrong like that takes a confidence that I think scum here are less likely to possess, especially since I think it could have been predicted that you would react in a similar way to what you did, which is not good for kyouko if scum here.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:56 pm

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In post 68, DeasVail wrote:
In post 53, Appearance wrote: tbh i'm scared of scum distancing in this setup.
this was actually something I was thinking too.

Was it klick/dragoneater that pinged you as a potential distance as well, or more of a general fear?
Distancing? DragonEater ended our earlier exchange with a townread on me, and my stated read on DragonEater is ambiguous atm. I don't see how you come out of it thinking it looks like distancing.

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