Newbie 1027: Trick or Treat! [Game Over]

[andrew94]

^ for a second i thought nikanor replaced maniamax

[Neruz]

Your ability to appear around me is uncanny.

[Thor665]

Because he has done things that are "scummy", I'm not going to write him off, but at the moment, the possibility of him being poor-town is slightly higher IMO (no offence Park). Whilst I'd hammer him to avoid a no-lynch, I think there are scummier players out there atm.

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@Park - How well do you think you've played so far?

You're really trying to cloud my reads on you, aren't ya?

Though I like the introspection of the park case you really do no more then examine it and sort of softly admit you don't think it is necessarily the perfect lynch of the day. No thoughts as to who might be?
Also, after semi-clearing park of some of his scumminess what purpose did that follow-up question to him serve?

[Thor665]

@andrew - also, I love you man, but you don't feel as clear to me today as yesterday. Who are your current top two suspects again?

[chkflip]

Sorry I havent been able to post lately.

1

I suppose everyone can see it, I noticed the strong buddying of Neruz and Chkflip during the past few pages.
Not only did they voted me (one with reasons, other with intention to sheep) they never seem to be really addressing each other on anything.This shows a weak distancing between these two players. Although it isn't completely buddying, their connection to each other is undeniable.

2

First, Neruz votes me with reasons of contradiction in my early posts with enough details.
Then, Chkflip comes along straightafter and then votes me with i-dunno-i-know-you-are-scum attitude and claims that his arguments are COMPLETELY different from Neruz's.

3

Obviously if they use similar reasons with each other to attack me would be found by others as fishy. However, forcibly using different angles to attack is quite noticeable as well.

4

Neruz wasnt really on my radar before (or should i say Huntman) but now, after replacing the previous player, Neruz does almost everything to undo what Huntman did before.
I'll have my eyes on him.

- 1] When

have

you been here, short a slight stint when the game started? Your lurking is beyond scummy.

- 2] I'm not even going to acknowledge this again beyond this post, because you're

blatantly

trying to spin using Argument from Repetition.

- 3] Actually, I added my own on top of everything he'd stated. I agree with everything he's found and, honestly? Idk why people "let you off the hook" when you were so obviously slipping D1.

- 4] Everything in mafia is subject to interpretation. You didn't exactly need a GED to figure that one out. What a terrible spin, btw.

[andrew94]

@andrew - also, I love you man, but you don't feel as clear to me today as yesterday. Who are your current top two suspects again?

by yesterday do u mean day1 or yesterday?

current top 2: chkflip, neruz
top 3; bazz

[Thor665]

Why aren't you voting chkflip or neruz?

[andrew94]

^ faints*

how the hell can i vote when chkflip is doing what gud did to me on day 1. and neruz is just saying- andrew's case is terrible.

wtf

[Thor665]

Why does that prevent your vote?

Either they should look scummy and deserve a vote or they shouldn't and don't. What am I missing?

[andrew94]

because chkflip is doing what guderian is doing- and gud turned out to be town
neruz is not even acknowledging me- just saying- hes case is terrible terrible. + giving me a choice between idiot and scum. ATA.

[parknourie]

I agree with Thor that Andrew's reason of not voting is not quite justified well enough.

[Nikanor]

Vote Count

[L-2] parknourie - (Neruz, chkflip)

[L-3] ooBAZZoo - (Thor665)
[L-3] chkflip - (parknourie)
[L-3] Thor665 - (ooBAZZoo)

[2]

Not Voting

- (andrew94, Maniamax)

With

7

alive, it's

4

to lynch!

Deadline is at Saturday, December 11, 2010 at 12:00:00 Noon (San Jose time).

Prods & Replacements

Prodding

Maniamax

again because I'm an anal douche.

[andrew94]

post 535 just destroyed most of my town read.

how is it not justified? i dont want to mislynch again.

[Thor665]

@Nikanor - I approve of anal douchery

@chkflip - thoughts on the BAZZ case, go!

@park - just to clarify, I never said andrew's reason weren't justified enough or not.

[Maniamax]

I apologise for my actions, but I am afraid I will have to drop out for some family issues ;_; I really am quite sorry about this, but it's out of my hands at the moment

[chkflip]

- How are park's posts

not

giving you guys red flags? Every time I see his name in the last couple pages, I see something scum motivated to the right. More on this when I'm not sick.

- Like I just said, not feeling great. Maybe I ate some bad meat on T-Giving, I dunno. Just letting you know that my thoughts on the Bazz case will have to wait.

- FFS, what's next? Thor stubs his toe and has to leave? I'm sure mania has a valid reason, just a little disappointed. Now we have another point where we have to start all over again.

[Nikanor]

A replacement will have to wait until tomorrow when KittyMo comes back from V/LA, as I do not have the roles. Sorry for that, folks.

[andrew94]

@chkflip, make no mistake, park's last post looks like potato flinging to me, which as i saaid destroyed my town read.

however there is another more pressing issue.

chkflip, can you look at neruz, just because he says that park is scummy doesnt mean that you guys are automatically both 'townies agreeing with each other'.
look at the 180 degree change in angle from hunt

[chkflip]

- All I can genuinely get from it is that Neruz is a far better player than Huntman was. Remember, he'd only played mafia IRL and hadn't done so in a while. This was something quite fresh to him. If you can prepare some examples I'm not seeing, by all means I'll give them a onceover.

[Thor665]

I really agree with chkflip (egads!) - there is NO obligation for a new player replacing in to have the same reads that his predecessor did and certainly changing them is not inherently scummy. If you think his individual push is scummy, more power to you, but saying two players had different reads is a bit like noting that the grass is green.

I think I'm actually getting a town read on chkflip at the moment, and that's horrifying.

I still would like to see another vote on BAZZ and am surprised I can't get it. Does everyone else have a town read on him?

[Neruz]

How could a replacement possibly have the same reads as his predecessor? Replacements are different people, which means they form their own opinions, it's just the reality of the game.

[Thor665]

ECHO...Echo...echo...

[Neruz]

I'm tired leave me alone :C

[andrew94]

How could a replacement possibly have the same reads as his predecessor? Replacements are different people, which means they form their own opinions, it's just the reality of the game.

but remember, if huntman was scum (which i didnt really think so) and he aimed for someone. you came in, decided it was a scummy move, so decided to go aiming for someone else and using the advantage that your a replacement to say ' i changed my views, so what'.


people, respond to my bazz case (i think only thor did)

[parknourie]

Well, on Chkflip's point on saying that Neruz is far "better" player than Huntman, isn't convincing everyone that s/he is town the quality of being a good player? Also, are you applying that since Neruz is better than Huntman, we must say that he is both Town (as Huntman was) and a good scum-hunter? Does that mean we have to listen to him?