Open 730: Donner Party [Terminado]

[Not_Mafia]

So let's vote scum Sando together

[OkaPoka]

only if u promise to talk a lot more or let yourself by lynched tmr if he flips town

[Not_Mafia]

I don't make promises I can't keep

[OkaPoka]

then why is sando scum

[Not_Mafia]

Yes

[UnrealSeal]

I'm convinced

VOTE: Sando

[OkaPoka]

tell me ur also trying to prove a point here unrealseal

[Sando]

A. If you feel that scum didn't bus MM, and you're pinning me as SK, what does that make Not_Mafia, who voted MM before I did?

Oka literally cannot handle the idea that there's multiple scum, as I talked about in 448. Oka has ignored this point for a while now.

[OkaPoka]

oww that hurts

[UnrealSeal]

@Oka I trust N_M's reads and I don't like your wagon

[OkaPoka]

so you are super townreading him?

[Sando]

Wanna respond to 397 there Seal?

[LuckyOtter]

i agree once i get lynched not_mafia gets lynched its a valuable sacrifice for town

a) i have no idea im guessing my reads still suck but its my guess
b1) its scummy for u because ive played with u and ur not quiet as much as i hate meta, if not_mafia was quiet but still analytical it wouldnt be scummy
b2) he is too quiet i dont have to list everything out in a basic and generic readslist
c) because sando did game theory in previous game as town so its a null read and its still a null read for ap i dont know what u want from me

A. My point is that me and NM can't both be SK so if you want us both to be scum you need to be able to argue that one of us bussed MM, which so far you said isn't plausible (and I agree with that)
B. But if my being quiet and apparently not analytical is your problem with me, I don't see how you wouldn't see that in Seal. Like, we've posted about the same amount of times and I don't see how you can argue that his posting is more substantive than mine (but go ahead and try if you'd like)
C. I just want you to admit that all your reads are bs.

[LuckyOtter]

@Oka I trust N_M's reads and I don't like your wagon

What don't you like about the Oka wagon?

[Sando]

oww that hurts

So you're just going to...keep ignoring it?

So the basis of your plan here Oka is to sheep someone you complain is completely unreadable, and when that persons target flips town, claim vindication and lynch the person you were sheeping? All the while ignoring actual content, directed at you or otherwise.

As you're so keen of asking, please, explain to me the town rationale behind that?

[OkaPoka]

a) im not game solving, im not even saying one of you or not_mafia is scum, im not saying if one is sk the other is maf. im just saying that you two were my highest scumread and i find it more likely for you to be sk than maf,
b) because meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta, its more scummy for you because ur established as an active townsplayer
c) my reads are shitty and bs thats why i didnt want to do a readslist because rn the only important read for me is the one on not_mafia i have

im pretty sure im voting not_mafia rn, ive answered questions directed at me, but nice try

[Sando]

im pretty sure im voting not_mafia rn, ive answered questions directed at me, but nice try

I literally just linked to a post from you that you ignored and instead responded with "ow that hurts".

VOTE: Okapoka

[OkaPoka]

Other scum could be anyone.

Don't know, don't care rn. Maybe it is seal, I just think not_mafia is a much superior lynch than seal today.

So you acknowledge you're considering the "other scum", which is a different faction than whatever scum you think (thought) NM is, then:

okay so if sando flips town we lynch not_mafia and if sando flips scum not_mafia is a good boi?

You assume a binary outcome here, red+red is flat out not an option for you in this scenario? Why not?

one maf is dead
that means
there is either sk left
maf left
or sk and maf left

so yeah

and to the other point:
if you flip red and game isnt over and not_mafia isnt dead
we keep sheeping him until he is wrong

this isnt a ridiculous strategy join the train

because not_mafia is an omniscient mafia genius who needs no explanation

[UnrealSeal]

@Sando my response is that in what world is abandoning a rising wagon (Oka) to put a vote on someone who most people have as a TR (AP) a safe play.

why would any scum pass up that

opportunity

. Italicized the keyword there

Oka wagon is pretty fucking awful btw, scum do not put themselves out like this and lead the discussion this much

I also think that you, Oka, should get off of N_M, and wait for the GS to get a result on him (a thing the GS should do, unless they have a stronger scum-read)

[OkaPoka]

find a new slant

ur 448 is not even accurate

i didnt assume only one of you can be scum

i was just going to sheep not_mafia until he was wrong at the time
and then lynch him

so logically speaking if u flipped red, n_m wagons up another who flips green then id scumread n_m

but k

pedit: ahem do u super townread not_mafia seal

[UnrealSeal]

I TR him for now, but i do want the GS to get a result from him unless they have someone else they think needs confirming.

[Sando]

i was just going to sheep not_mafia until he was wrong at the time
and then lynch him

so logically speaking if u flipped red, n_m wagons up another who flips green then id scumread n_m

Bullshit, you're moving the goalposts:

okay so if sando flips town we lynch not_mafia and

if sando flips scum not_mafia is a good boi

?

want to try out this experiment

[OkaPoka]

yeah teh goal post got moved before you made 448

[Sando]

@Sando my response is that in what

world is abandoning a rising wagon (Oka) to put a vote on someone who most people have as a TR

(AP) a safe play.

why would any scum pass up that opportunity. Italicized the keyword there

Oka wagon is pretty fucking awful btw

, scum do not put themselves out like this and lead the discussion this much

I mean you're pretty much answering your own question here...

[UnrealSeal]

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