micro 951 mystery box of silver gnine: well we're done here.

[Dunnstral]

Woah woah woah woah

So we have a tracker, two confidants, and a "pig cop" ?

[Dunnstral]

+ whatever the crowd reaction is

Also it's worth mentioning that the mafia had the detective role and confidants can target that

That power seems crazy

[Dunnstral]

I give out visitor abilities each night and I'm told that certain investigatives might be able to make use out of this.

Who? None of the claimed roles seem to be able to. Or are you referring to the crowd reaction portion... or the tracker?

[hari]

Who? None of the claimed roles seem to be able to. Or are you referring to the crowd reaction portion... or the tracker?

it said the same thing when i received it.

[Dunnstral]

So we nolynch hari targets hellbooks, hellbooks targets one of hari/Olorin, and then we see what happens. I won't shoot

[Olórin]

I think we no-lynch and have hari target hellbooks, hellbooks target me, and me target hellbooks (this one doesn't really matter).

Dunny is mechanically an IC so scum will have to keep him alive if they have to kill in the trio to stop themselves being confirmed. For example, if hellbooks is lying, she'd have to kill hari or I guess she could take the 1v1 as well. In that case, she'd nightkill Dunny.
Or if hari is scum, she'd have to 1v1 hellbooks since I'd be confirmed by hellbooks, and then me or Dunny would be NKed.

Any objections?

I still have absolutely no idea what these Crowd Reactions are about btw

[Dunnstral]

This setup had 1 vt in it

[hari]

I still have absolutely no idea what these Crowd Reactions are about btw

it does make me think the 'pig cop' is slightly more likely than i would otherwise.

This setup had 1 vt in it

the plan seems good to me but this ^ does make me worry slightly about you being mafia who was able to double kill last night.

[Dunnstral]

the plan seems good to me but this ^ does make me worry slightly about you being mafia who was able to double kill last night.

bugspray was a detective

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Detective

[Dunnstral]

And they were also a jailkeeper vs being a roleblocker

[hari]

true. power level still doesn't quite feel right but double kill would be a weird compensation.

[hellbooks]

oh this is like so fun
let me have a lil think

[hellbooks]

hellbooks, how can Dunny be scum if there's two kills and he's the only person claiming to be a vig? If you're town, your role might be something like a gunsmith which is how it gets false guilties.

i was simply taking into account hari saying she might have killed Fishy Logic

to see if olorin would stick to a claim i strongly believed to be false or if he'd say something about my implication and also to more discreetly communicate to whoever did give me the ability that i received it.

Seems enormously towny

So we nolynch hari targets hellbooks, hellbooks targets one of hari/Olorin, and then we see what happens. I won't shoot

dunnstral... the mafia TWO shot vig....

[hellbooks]

Any objections?

if hari is scum this could be like a death knell but... sure. ya. i'm townreading her

[hellbooks]

i mean fuck it i'm willing to risk it. right. it seems fun

[Dunnstral]

So... do you actually think it can still be me, or are you saying it's Olorin?

[hellbooks]

Oh no, that was like a joke. i think hari could be faking the claim (hence the big risk in the scenario where she kills me and say, fakes a guilty on olorin), olorin certainly isn't faking the claim but i could see it being a scum aspect maybe (is it setup-reasonable for olorin to be just a scum visitor inventor?), i think hari's rain dance thing has pretty significant town equity. i think the least likely thing here is for you to be a scum vig yea.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: No Elim

I'm ready to progress

[Dunnstral]

(is it setup-reasonable for olorin to be just a scum visitor inventor?)

As of right now I suspect one of the investigative claims. 4 of them in a 9 person game is hard to swallow

[Olórin]

VOTE: No lynch

I'm not giving many town points to hari for her rain dance thing. She's done protown things as scum before. Dunny will know what I'm talking about (waiting at deadline to see if Titus would hammer, and then calling her town for it).

My last guess for scum just based on gut right now would be hellbooks though.

[Olórin]

What is the town motivation for doing this?

to see if olorin would stick to a claim i strongly believed to be false or if he'd say something about my implication and also to more discreetly communicate to whoever did give me the ability that i received it.

and answer me this:

If I stuck to the false claim, what would that mean for my alignment? Same question for if I admitted I was lying.

[schadd_]

since two no elim votes are enough to prevent an elimination i will give the day another 24 hours at most

[hari]

If you were targeted by me last night, please come out and say and then I can confirm.

who did you target last night?

If I stuck to the false claim, what would that mean for my alignment? Same question for if I admitted I was lying.

if you stuck to the false claim, i don't think it would mean much either way because it wouldn't make sense for you as either alignment to try to take advantage of me 'confirming' your fake claim when you know it is false. if you admitted you were lying, it would mean that we collectively would have been able to move past the 'town if true, mafia if false' dichotomy i was worried about. this would probably be pretty towny. there are other ways you could have reacted - saying that i was trying to take advantage of your claim by implying that i gave you water to accrue townpoints, for one.

all of this is pretty moot because you were the one who gave me the visitor ability so you knew what was actually being implied by my post.

[Dunnstral]

there are other ways you could have reacted - saying that i was trying to take advantage of your claim by implying that i gave you water to accrue townpoints, for one.

Why didn't you react like this by the way, Olorin?

[Olórin]

Because that's silly since she knows I knows she knows it's untrue, and it would be disproven soonish.

Once I saw the image, I knew she was signalling she recieved the visitor ability from me. The hydration reference I thought could be her referencing she knew I gifted it to her - but I didn't understand how she'd know this, so I figured she was reaction testing. I didn't reply to it or signal back because it's not beneficial for me to reveal myself as a PR to someone whose alignment I don't know.