Mafia 48: Himalayan Mafia - Game over!

[Twomz]

What's the point of signing up for a game if you're not going to play?

putting it on your college resume

true story

i wrote an essay yesterday on sin city

i got a hundred

ROFLMAO!!!

unvote, vote: DG

That's seven.

I'm still here, but i don't really have anything to say besides i still think one of Cesspit and MoS is scum. Since no one else is following me on my hunch (or really Hez's) then i have to compromise. DG is acting slightly odd, and i agree w/ most all of the points against her... here's hoping eh?

[Mastermind of Sin]

FOS: twomz

I really hope DGB comes up scum so I can lynch you next.

[Lloyd]

Do you think that, if I were scum, I would cook up a hare-brained scenario with LML to make sure that one of him or me might be lynched on Day 2?

Yes, because the other could use it to decrease suspicion throughout remainder of this game.

If Lee is a townie, his bet of possibly sacrificing himself doesn't help our town. In the worst case, his gamble could result in a potential loss of two townies.

- Why would a townie suggest sacrificing him / herself in this game, when the current chance of our town winning assuming random lynches is 30.6%?

Lee's gamble seems more likely to benefit scums than our town. Lee's continual certainty in you possibly being scum, reinforces my belief that both of you are probably scums.

Your actions do indeed deserve a vote, so I'm going to give it to you, but town, be aware, I may very well unvote if this bandwagon grows too fast.

When Lee initially voted for you, he was less certain with his vote. As you became more suspicious, Lee clamored onto his initial suspicion of you.

It's been 12 days, Lee hasn't directly answered points that I initially raised; his response brushed off my points.

If Lee is scum, then it would be in his interest to cut losses, and make a bet that he probably cannot lose.

- If you are lynched and turn out as scum, then I believe Lee would use it to decrease suspicion of him throughout remainder of this game.

- If you are lynched and turn out as town, then I believe Lee would be willing to sacrifice himself tomorrow, but while comparing his posts to lurkers, to possibly get a lurker lynched tomorrow.

At this point, both of you seem scummy to me.

I think Lee is a better play today, because you are more talkative than him, with more chances for you to potentially make mistakes.

[TheCesspit]

FOS: twomz

I really hope DGB comes up scum so I can lynch you next.

Ditto.

[Mr. Flay]

Sorry for being so absent. I knew the deadline was coming but this is the first time I've gotten to have a full read-through.

Well what did you think the Huggle Alliance was?

Honestly? I had no idea. I'm not in Lights Out, and the idea of you trying to concoct a lynch-managing voter block didn't even cross my mind. The fact that you tried to do it in two games at once, apparently, and turned up town in the other one, doesn't give me any confidence in your pro-townness here.

[...] DGB's posts this game have been very bantery, it's often her style to befriend people this way and she's quite adept at it.

That's rich, coming from the leader of the Huggle Alliance and Adele's Weepy Lovesick Fan Club. As far as I know there is no "Goofball Alliance" which is a good thing for the Huggle Alliance, because we'd kick your teddy bear behinds.

Qouted for truth. Pooky is the last one who should be talking about being disarmingly friendly.

It's also possible that tidus was trying to throw people off in ways that aren't so obvious. Though if anything could be said about tidus, is that he was obvious indeed.

tidus melted down, but that doesn't mean he wasn't hiding in plain sight. The NK last night may have been part of a way to jump on HezLucky's luck and push something on TheCesspit or MoS, hence why I never voted for either of them.

Amazing Goofball, the reason I didn't want to begin a wagon on you and get you all up in votes is because I knew you were going to be on vacation, I didn't want you to come back close to deadline with a ton of votes on you and have not enough time to properly defend yourself. That's why I laid off on you and didn't come after you, I didn't explain my reasoning because I didn't want to have you run up while you were away!

That was very sweet of you, Pooks. Why are you standing up for another player, and why did your vote on DGB come SO late???

I care no longer what happens, your comment about me trying to distance myself from her doesn't even make any sense. If I were trying to distance myself from her I'd be voting her.(I'd definitely be voting her if I were scum)

I'd rather be lynched than to have to suffer through a game with the amount of lurking that this town has decided it can treat with such delightful complacency.

Is that somewhat suicidal and not very good for the town? Perhaps, but my 1 vote isn't going to make Goofball be lynched over me and I doubt that I would like to spend my time atop this windy peak with such silent arbiters who would throw my fate into the winds without the slightest care in all the world. I'd much rather spend my time here with Goofball, at least she speaks, even if she is scum.

I'm touched. But EVERY player's vote counts, unless they're scum who know that they can unvote at any moment for the slightest provocation. This looks like WIFOM, stone-cold bluffing.

Vote Count:

PookyTheMagicalBear- 4 (Dead Rikimaru, Yosarian2, kirbyphreak, Mr. Flay)
LoudMouthLee- 4 (Lloyd, TSAGod, Fuldu, DrippingGoofball)
DrippingGoofball- 3 (LoudMouthLee, Fritzler, Mastermind of Sin)
TheCesspit- 1 (Twomz)

Not voting (7): broomhead, creampuffeater, JamesSparrow, neongrey, RandomActs, TheCesspit, PookyTheMagicalBear

10 to lynch, 5 at deadline.


we should probably pile some more votes on DGB

Shouldn't the GM be the only one posting the votes?

Isn't a bit off to post vote count and then add a bit of editorial?

why the hell can't i post one? i want to know who has how many votes so i did my own, why not give it to you guys?

It's sleazy. You gave yourself a bit of authority there, by making a vote count without even saying it was unofficial, associating your "we should pile more votes on" with it, that's what I have a problem with, anyway. Why didn't you want LML or Pooky to be the vote leader? You've been flailing your suspicions all over the place since Vote One.

Gods help me, I just don't see the emphasis on DGB. Her posting style started off wildly erratic, but she's straightened up since things got serious. I don't remember who posted that unusual play was most likely to be jumped on by scum..Fuldu? My vote's staying on Pooky.

[neongrey]

Gah, email notification decided to ignore me. Need to head for work sooner than it'll take to give this a thorough reread. I should be back from work in time to let me do that, though.

I'll give it a couple more skims before I go and turn it over in my head, etc.

[Yosarian2]

Honestly? I had no idea. I'm not in Lights Out, and the idea of you trying to concoct a lynch-managing voter block didn't even cross my mind. The fact that you tried to do it in two games at once, apparently, and turned up town in the other one, doesn't give me any confidence in your pro-townness here.

More then two games, actually; take a look at Speedy's current Big New York game, for example.

I don't think the whole "huggle alliance" behavior is especally helpfull, but it is consistant across several games so I don't think it's really much of a scum tell.

[Fritzler]

Vote Count:

PookyTheMagicalBear- 4 (Dead Rikimaru, Yosarian2, kirbyphreak, Mr. Flay)
LoudMouthLee- 4 (Lloyd, TSAGod, Fuldu, DrippingGoofball)
DrippingGoofball- 3 (LoudMouthLee, Fritzler, Mastermind of Sin)
TheCesspit- 1 (Twomz)

Not voting (7): broomhead, creampuffeater, JamesSparrow, neongrey, RandomActs, TheCesspit, PookyTheMagicalBear

10 to lynch, 5 at deadline.


we should probably pile some more votes on DGB

Shouldn't the GM be the only one posting the votes?

Isn't a bit off to post vote count and then add a bit of editorial?

why the hell can't i post one? i want to know who has how many votes so i did my own, why not give it to you guys?

It's sleazy. You gave yourself a bit of authority there, by making a vote count without even saying it was unofficial, associating your "we should pile more votes on" with it, that's what I have a problem with, anyway. Why didn't you want LML or Pooky to be the vote leader? You've been flailing your suspicions all over the place since Vote One.

so i should put the phrase unofficial before it?

[TheCesspit]

Yes without editorial in the same post.

IMHO

[Fritzler]

Yes without editorial in the same post.

IMHO

but why? What's wrong with me giving myself extra authroity, if anyone is stupid enough to believe me? If I get extra authority, im merely helping my side out, by giving us more authority.

[TheCesspit]

unvote

vote: Fritzler

That's the single scummiest thing I've read this day.

As we don't know your 'side' your misleading someone.

[Mr. Flay]

so i should put the phrase unofficial before it?

Yes. The Mod makes official vote counts because the Mod is a disinterested party. if your VC had been "off" by one vote (accidentally or otherwise), and someone got lynched (accidentally or otherwise) as a result, wouldn't that be a poor result?

I've made them before, but I believe I've always put "Unofficial", or "Back of the envelope", or some other way of designating them as being player-based. I didn't even realize yours was a non-official count at first, until I noticed your name on my second read-through. It's not the cleverest scum ploy, when/if it happens, but it's not implausible. The appearance of impropriety is bad for your reputation. That said, Cesspit's apparent overreaction is noted.

More then two games, actually; take a look at Speedy's current Big New York game, for example.

Huh. Looks a little different now that you mention it there, but clearly I'm not playing enough games these days. Things have become wildly different in the last couple of years....[/oldbie]

[Fritzler]

so i should put the phrase unofficial before it?

Yes. The Mod makes official vote counts because the Mod is a disinterested party. if your VC had been "off" by one vote (accidentally or otherwise), and someone got lynched (accidentally or otherwise) as a result, wouldn't that be a poor result?

I've made them before, but I believe I've always put "Unofficial", or "Back of the envelope", or some other way of designating them as being player-based. I didn't even realize yours was a non-official count at first, until I noticed your name on my second read-through. It's not the cleverest scum ploy, when/if it happens, but it's not implausible. The appearance of impropriety is bad for your reputation. That said, Cesspit's apparent overreaction is noted.

So players thought i actually was an uninterested party? sweet

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's not that far from the truth.

[Fritzler]

It's not that far from the truth.

fritz was just :own3d:

[Fritzler]

It's not that far from the truth.

fritz was just :own3d:

[Mastermind of Sin]

Honestly? I had no idea. I'm not in Lights Out, and the idea of you trying to concoct a lynch-managing voter block didn't even cross my mind. The fact that you tried to do it in two games at once, apparently, and turned up town in the other one, doesn't give me any confidence in your pro-townness here.

More then two games, actually; take a look at Speedy's current Big New York game, for example.

I don't think the whole "huggle alliance" behavior is especally helpfull, but it is consistant across several games so I don't think it's really much of a scum tell.

I'm going to start making a list of people still dumb enough to think being a member of the HA actually affects how you play. Seriously, you guys were stupid enough to believe it once, don't make this mistake again.

List:
XGreyJoyX
Yosarian2

[Yosarian2]

More then two games, actually; take a look at Speedy's current Big New York game, for example.

I don't think the whole "huggle alliance" behavior is especally helpfull, but it is consistant across several games so I don't think it's really much of a scum tell.

I'm going to start making a list of people still dumb enough to think being a member of the HA actually affects how you play. Seriously, you guys were stupid enough to believe it once, don't make this mistake again.

List:
XGreyJoyX
Yosarian2[/quote]

...again, I never commented one way or the other about that, just pointed out that this was normal for Pooky.

I should start making a list of people who like to pretend I said something completly different from what I actually said.

[Yosarian2]

(bah...tags)

More then two games, actually; take a look at Speedy's current Big New York game, for example.

I don't think the whole "huggle alliance" behavior is especally helpfull, but it is consistant across several games so I don't think it's really much of a scum tell.

I'm going to start making a list of people still dumb enough to think being a member of the HA actually affects how you play. Seriously, you guys were stupid enough to believe it once, don't make this mistake again.

List:
XGreyJoyX
Yosarian2

...again, I never commented one way or the other about that, just pointed out that this was normal for Pooky.

I should start making a list of people who like to pretend I said something completly different from what I actually said.

[Norinel]

About 12.5 hours to deadline.

Vote Count:

DrippingGoofball- 6 (LoudMouthLee, Fritzler, Mastermind of Sin, Yosarian2, PookyTheMagicalBear, Twomz)
LoudMouthLee- 5 (Lloyd, TSAGod, Fuldu, DrippingGoofball, RandomActs)
PookyTheMagicalBear- 3 (Dead Rikimaru, kirbyphreak, Mr. Flay)
Fritzler- 1 (TheCesspit)

Not voting (4): broomhead, creampuffeater, JamesSparrow, neongrey

10 to lynch, 5 at deadline.

[neongrey]

Okay, um... fritzler's defense of the way he did that votecount looked seriously nasty to me. At this point, I'll give a token

vote: Fritzler

, but at this point, nobody but Goofball's going down.

Just two more exams left, yaay.

[TheCesspit]

so i should put the phrase unofficial before it?

Yes. The Mod makes official vote counts because the Mod is a disinterested party. if your VC had been "off" by one vote (accidentally or otherwise), and someone got lynched (accidentally or otherwise) as a result, wouldn't that be a poor result?

I've made them before, but I believe I've always put "Unofficial", or "Back of the envelope", or some other way of designating them as being player-based. I didn't even realize yours was a non-official count at first, until I noticed your name on my second read-through. It's not the cleverest scum ploy, when/if it happens, but it's not implausible. The appearance of impropriety is bad for your reputation. That said, Cesspit's apparent overreaction is noted.

I don't think I over-reacted. You've just had someone say he willing to mislead people, and happy he's done so for his 'side'. I was under the impression that Town shouldn't mislead anyone.

The only players who know whose on their side is the Scum.... It's the clearest sign I've had all day in this game for scum. Maybe it's too obvious.

I was just about okay with my DGB vote. I don't think she's definite scum, but she's was the best of the options given the arguments proposed. At worst her lynch would give us the most information. At best it's 2 scum down.

Then Fritzler pipes up with something that is far clearer. Of course I'm going to react to it and make it clear.

(Now I'll probably be slated for defending my reaction too much )

[Norinel]

Activity check: Prodding kirbyphreak. JamesSparrow and TSAGod have PMed me to indicate they're still around.

End of Day Vote Count:

DrippingGoofball- 6 (LoudMouthLee, Fritzler, Mastermind of Sin, Yosarian2, PookyTheMagicalBear, Twomz)
LoudMouthLee- 5 (Lloyd, TSAGod, Fuldu, DrippingGoofball, RandomActs)
PookyTheMagicalBear- 3 (Dead Rikimaru, kirbyphreak, Mr. Flay)
Fritzler- 2 (TheCesspit, neongrey)

Not voting (3): broomhead, creampuffeater, JamesSparrow

10 to lynch, 5 at deadline.

Day 2:

Time can sometimes be a victor on any journey, and today time brings the day to its close before the arguments over the mafia in their midst do. DrippingGoofball is the closest, so she's pushed off a conveniently placed cliff... and her tent is just as well-stocked in instruments of destruction and subterfuge as tidus' was.

DrippingGoofball (Mafia) - lynched Day 2.

It is now Night 2, deadline 48 hours unless I need to replace someone.

[Norinel]

Night 2:

This time the mod fails to provide flavor, and kirbyphreak fails to provide not being shot. The guide's calculations seem slightly more heartening based on the successes so far, though:

Townies left: 15
Mafia left: 2

Mafia lynches to town win: 2
Town lynches to mafia win: 7
Chance of town win assuming random lynches: 46.0%

kirbyphreak (Townie) - killed Night 2.

It is now Day 3, 17 alive means 9 to lynch. Deadline 19 days, May 18.

[Twomz]

Vote: TheCessPit

Other possible scum (in order from my pov)
MoS
LML
Neongrey (because of the whole, voting for fritz right before lynch thing)
Pooky
Fritz

I'd say 15 to 2 is great odds for the town, eh? Does anyone have any major leads based on relationships w/ DG?