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Post Post #5350 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:17 am

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In post 5344, Gammagooey wrote:If nom actually flipped town I guess I'd want her to shoot Firebringer?
I wanna go over this a little because it's been puzzling me. If Nom is town and as anyone should be able to tell I think she is. Why does a team with !scum firebringer remove him from the hood? Because this clearly wasn't from town or it'd be said. Why give town a free venge kill? That leads into another point.

If nom is scum trying to get reads from them right now is pointless, they probably know who they want to shoot and the team has been talking about it. Etc etc

If nom is town, they either got rid of fire for 2 reasons. 1) They were scared of !Town FB getting the venge and having him shoot a scumread (hint it's the person I'm voting but that's not what I think was the main reason) or wasting a nightkill on him
2) They were confident town nom would shoot wrong. This clearly shows scum are comfortable with the game state. You don't do this unless you feel good about the game. Nom is going around saying her reads are changing and keeping silent about it. If you're scum right now what do you do? Your confidence goes into a panic, but you can't show that. So you try to get answers from nom to try and play around it. I think Nom gets this. So we run into a giant issue.

If nom keeps playing like this and is town she's gonna get lynched cause she's not answering things to give scum room. However, people (town and scum) are going to want to hear noms reads in order to move. So it's in a stuck situation. This, is the main reason I think lynching nom is incorrect at the moment and we should go elsewhere. Like Deb, A50? You'd need to talk to me on that one because I scumread A50 every game we play together and only one of my teammates thinks he's scummy right now.
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Post Post #5351 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:19 am

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Scum removed me because they want to ensure nom has venge because she is gonna shoot wrong and they want her to save them work

Which is what Maria says as point 2 and I agree

So let’s not lynch nom
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Post Post #5352 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:41 am

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In post 5350, MariaR wrote:
In post 5344, Gammagooey wrote:If nom actually flipped town I guess I'd want her to shoot Firebringer?
I wanna go over this a little because it's been puzzling me. If Nom is town and as anyone should be able to tell I think she is. Why does a team with !scum firebringer remove him from the hood? Because this clearly wasn't from town or it'd be said. Why give town a free venge kill? That leads into another point.
Theoretically, if nom is town then there's a possible reason to kick fire-scum out of it b/c that eliminates a lot of suspicion on Fire with a nom-lynch and her shooting someone else, esp. if fire butters up nom and tries to avoid the shot

I don't think that's actually the case though thinking about it more tbf, nom-town probably makes more sense with something like DEB/Almost/??? scum

but Again, I'm pretty confident that the one thing scum don't do in this situation is give nom-town a free shot that doesn't even let scum lynch fewer people to win
because even yesterday nom was willing to lynch basically anyone aside from herself, including encouraging a 1v1 between two of her town reads, and assuming that scum are actively sabotaging their chances of winning by giving town free vig shots instead of playing intelligently seems impossibly naive.
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Post Post #5353 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:15 am

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VOTE: DEB

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Post Post #5354 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:36 am

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UNVOTE: nomnomnom

Disgusting.
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Post Post #5355 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:36 am

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VOTE: kuribo
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Post Post #5356 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:37 am

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I have a very bad feeling that delaying the vengeful lynch is going to fuck town later on, but there's no point in furthering this discussion.

I'm not interested in lynching DEB.
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Post Post #5357 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:38 am

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Just push your vanity wagon and keep your head down, maybe you'll get a mislynch through instead of having to take a stand for once
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Post Post #5358 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:39 am

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I mean you're not going to get one on me, but at least you won't have to grow a pair this day
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Post Post #5359 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:40 am

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I'm running out of slots I'm not townreading, and I'm not going to bait FL into shitting up the thread again by voting for his hood.

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Post Post #5360 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:41 am

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So explain why you're townreading DEB and I'll explain why your reads are terrible
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Post Post #5361 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:43 am

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I'm sorry? Is there a reason he's scum beyond his content level?
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Post Post #5362 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:44 am

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Yah there's an excellent case right here:
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Post Post #5363 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:45 am

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FTR I didn't like the way gamma or DEB joined the nom wagon
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Post Post #5364 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:45 am

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This isn't a Scum!DEB ISO, sorry.
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Post Post #5365 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:48 am

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Like don't even look at the content level, look at the content itself dude

50% of it is NAI bullshit designed to ensure no one can solidify a read on him

There's opportunism in his votes or outright wheel spinning

He suddenly perked up when it looked like he was going to be lynched

He's been the failed counterwagon to numerous lynches. How do you think that happens? Scum isn't going to sacrifice him if bussing isn't necessary anymore.

Like, seriously what the fuck is town about any of that?
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Post Post #5366 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:49 am

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In post 5363, panthaleon wrote:FTR I didn't like the way gamma or DEB joined the nom wagon

DEB literally voted nom, unvoted when Ank called nom town, then opens today voting nom again


It's fuckin blatant and for ank to pretend not to see it, that's sketchy as hell too
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Post Post #5367 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:49 am

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Have you ever played with DEB before?
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Post Post #5368 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:50 am

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In post 5366, kuribo wrote:
In post 5363, panthaleon wrote:FTR I didn't like the way gamma or DEB joined the nom wagon

DEB literally voted nom, unvoted when Ank called nom town, then opens today voting nom again


It's fuckin blatant and for ank to pretend not to see it, that's sketchy as hell too
DEB also blatantly stated before all that that he was hard sheeping me?
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Post Post #5369 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:50 am

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In post 5352, Gammagooey wrote:but Again, I'm pretty confident that the one thing scum don't do in this situation is give nom-town a free shot that doesn't even let scum lynch fewer people to win
because even yesterday nom was willing to lynch basically anyone aside from herself, including encouraging a 1v1 between two of her town reads, and assuming that scum are actively sabotaging their chances of winning by giving town free vig shots instead of playing intelligently seems impossibly naive.
I will admit, this had given me pause before. Because it does seem odd and somewhat stupid to give this line of reasoning. However, it isn't possible with the way this game has gone. Plus, I don't think nom herself takes the line she does as scum here. Or at least I'd expect some kind of counter wagon and the only counter wagon is the one I'm trying to make. (I guess FL/A50 trying to get votes on me could count but I don't see it)
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Post Post #5370 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:51 am

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In post 5361, Ankamius wrote:I'm sorry? Is there a reason he's scum beyond his content level?
I feel like I've given plenty of detail on why DEB is scum that isn't just his content level. Are you just not reading my posts or?
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Post Post #5371 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:51 am

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In post 5368, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5366, kuribo wrote:
In post 5363, panthaleon wrote:FTR I didn't like the way gamma or DEB joined the nom wagon

DEB literally voted nom, unvoted when Ank called nom town, then opens today voting nom again


It's fuckin blatant and for ank to pretend not to see it, that's sketchy as hell too
DEB also blatantly stated before all that that he was hard sheeping me?
So he removed his own accountability by putting it on you, how curious
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Post Post #5372 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:52 am

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By the way, EP is scum.

But I guess everybody's going to ignore that too like always?
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Post Post #5373 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:52 am

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In post 5367, Ankamius wrote:Have you ever played with DEB before?

Probably but let me take your meta, lube it up, and you figure out where to put it from there
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Post Post #5374 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 5372, Ankamius wrote:By the way, EP is scum.

But I guess everybody's going to ignore that too like always?
Ok now I know you're ignoring my posts :(
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