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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:01 am

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In post 544, Irrelephant11 wrote:Probably not? idk

Not sure where you got the idea that I'm scumreading you for wanting to lynch lurkers. We've argued about game theory a lot, but I've also made clear that I'm scumreading you because I'm not convinced you're at all trying to find either town or scum - instead, you'd rather simply not be lynched.

I have also not suggested that the lurkers in this particular game should be cleared for their lurkiness - in fact, just the opposite for NSG/Kop. so..?

Rei where are you at/what are you thinking?

pedit: I didn't start this conversation thinking you're here to misdirect or distract, but the longer you have insisted on pushing the idea that the first lynch should be a lurker (rather than, say, try to appeal to other players to lynch whichever lurker you're most scumreading), the more it feels like that is your goal

What I'm currently thinking is that If it comes down to the 2 wagons on kop and tchill i'd rather very much lynch kop
tchill has been a strong townread, and I just can't see that coming from a scum pov
nauci has been townie to me but she's not been active lately, it's probably real life stuff but i want some thoughts from her because i'm starting to forget about my reads on her
nsg has been very unlike her town self, which obviously is enough to make me wary but also makes me paranoid wondering if she would be so obviously different from her town self as scum
alchemist had that first townread on me at the start due to "guts" but never mentioned me again, which kinda makes me suspicious but i dont want to lynch him today
bbt has been towny and contributive so far as well, i still think that post at the beginning is from a town pov
dr.do i've already explained
irrelephant, i kinda like your posts tbh but i also know that you're a good player. I've had zero experience with you so i probably want to backtrack some of your past games cause there's always that doubt about me not knowing how you actually play scum
ejji, i've also been paranoid about him because i know he probably won't be much different as scum, but i agree with a lot of his posts and reads so he's a strong tr for today at least, i feel like he's the type i can get a much better read on in further days
mumble i liked as well but we're lacking content here like nauci
kop and lalendra are probably on the same level for me, I will say tho I dont think kop and lalendra are scum together because some of their reads are too similar, its just an initial gut read.
creature, still waiting for his reads but i had town leans from twain

I think I'd be comfortable lynching nsg/kop/dr.dolittle
still waiting for lalendra's response to my question because I don't like her reason for lynching tchill
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:05 am

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I'm super sorry for letting y'all down guys; spent 22 hours depression sleeping yesterday \o/

I'm about halfway caught up; does anyone have recommendations for what in particular I should prioritize attention/research into?
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:08 am

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preferably what you think of kop, nsg and lalendra
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:24 am

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I'm not trying to find town or scum as much as you are this day phase. I definitely don't want to be lynched. I definitely don't care what you're thoughts, or anyone else's, are about my play other than for the reason to work with you... Because it's a team game.

And if you're expecting a lawyer like, iron clad case against alchemist when you already don't agree on some of my views you're gonna have a bad time.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:34 am

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So alchemist has pushed me and nauci for a majority of the time with a little kop sprinkled in there correct?

Does nauci completely disappear as scum when she's Wagoned?
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:19 am

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I still don’t like the progression on his Kop read but Tchill doubling down on refusing to share how he’s coming to his conclusions is a Towntell imo. I’ll never understand the type of player who thinks holding back all their opinions is a good thing, but I know that they exist.

Kop vs Tchill wagons are worth thinking about too. Kop’s wagon was a lot easier to get votes on, while people actively avoided the Tchill wagon and the only ones who followed me are players that Tchill is calling to be lynched. Either Tchill is Town to that many people or scum are actively avoiding be wagon. I think they would actively avoid the wagon for one of two reasons: Tchill is scum, or Tchill is Town actively pushing Townies and distracting away from scum. I’m leaning towards the latter.

What’s really important to note is that Irrelephant had Tchill as his biggest scumread but preferred the Kop wagon because it was larger. Now he’s completely abandoned the Kop wagon in favor of an NSG vanity wagon. I’m not quite sure why scum leaves the Kop wagon in this scenario but he has actively avoided the Tchill wagon for reasons that don’t line up with how he’s actually played. Irrelephant is now my biggest scumread.

VOTE: Irrelephant
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:24 am

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I don't think holding back all information is a good idea.

It's day 1 though. Which is vastly different than day 2 or 3 or 4.

I like that case alchemist. I'm still suspicious so I'm not Unvoting. I see where you're coming from though. It's reasonable.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:50 am

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Okay, time to do stuff
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:51 am

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Wish me good luck
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 8, TWAIN wrote:VOTE: Rei

I'm more of a Misato guy.
Town

Oh wait...
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:52 am

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14, 15 and 16 feel all town
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:52 am

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didn't really like page 1

thought I would get more town feelings there
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:58 am

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Page 2

Just some townfeeling on Alchemist
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:59 am

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In post 84, Irrelephant11 wrote:townleaning alchemist

for the record Nauci has done this to me as tvt before

But that is a little misreppy, nauci - Notice that *my* vote is for pressure and reactions. *Her* vote is apparently because I'm scummy for not providing reasons. If that scumread expires (not super sure why it's there in the first place), I would think it would make more sense to move on, either to another scumread or to create pressure and generate discussion. Instead, she sits on me. Do her actions make sense to you?

Also nauci am I really your scummiest read in this gamestate?
In post 86, Irrelephant11 wrote:oh also townleaning ejjinami
Irrelephant can be town for this
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:00 pm

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Page 5

Tchill finally obvtowns it up
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:05 pm

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Mumble feels town too

while I thought I was meant to be townreading Nauci by now.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:05 pm

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nsg is playing

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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:22 pm

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Ugh, this is feeling boring
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:22 pm

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In post 233, TWAIN wrote:BBT - ejjinami's case on him isn't bad, and in addition he's been tunnelling Tchill from the very beginning of the game, despite camouflaging it with reading other people. Somewhat scum, could also be lyncher.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:24 pm

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In post 252, Nauci wrote:I refuse to lunch Twain today because that Lalendra meme was too good ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
This and Nauci's avatar make me feel Nauci is just some kind of player that looks scummy but will more likely flip town.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:24 pm

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Btw, sorry I'm not that much of a memer (or am I?)
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:25 pm

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Not feeling good about BBT though
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:25 pm

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In post 309, Jackal711 wrote:Nauci (5) - Kop, Alchemist21, Mumble, BlueBloodedToffee, Lalendra
lol this wagon
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:28 pm

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Page 15 notes

Don't play New Star Soccer

that game makes you waste your time and then when you feel like you're done with it you suddenly feel depressive thus get feelings your reads are all off
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:29 pm

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Calling a bunch of players town rn but I'm ready to rescind any townread.
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