Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Toranaga]

thank goodness A50 isn't here to call me scum for jumping off the RR wagon

[Elsa Jay]

aren't you usually supposed to give reasons why you vote?

when I don't have one, I do a one-liner.

[Toranaga]

he is scummier than everyone else

[Reasonably Rational]

thank goodness A50 isn't here to call me scum for jumping off the RR wagon

Do you think A50 would call RC scum for jumping off my wagon immediately after hopping on?

aren't you usually supposed to give reasons why you vote?

when I don't have one, I do a one-liner.

Okay. What do you mean by doing a one-liner?

-Cerb

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: NSG

Finally, a united front.

something like that, or my vote on you.

[Malakittens]

he is scummier than everyone else

That’s funny considering a few pages back you said I had a towny post. The only post that I have posted was not understanding the RR wagon.

Also I’m a ‘she’. I really don’t mind the pronouns, but please try

[Toranaga]

he is scummier than everyone else

That’s funny considering a few pages back you said I had a towny post. The only post that I have posted was not understanding the RR wagon.

Also I’m a ‘she’. I really don’t mind the pronouns, but please try

and you beetlejuice onto the thread when voted too, nice

you had one towny post, a few scummy ones, and everyone posting is townier than you are

and yeah sorry, I keep misgendering people for no reason.

[Reasonably Rational]

VOTE: NSG

Finally, a united front.

something like that, or my vote on you.

Okay, so your default reason given for jumping on wagons, if you don't have a reason of your own, is to express a desire for solidarity and/or just say you're sheeping the wagon?

-Cerb

[Malakittens]

Either way I won’t be here until another 4-5 hours. We have two calls back to back on my job. So I’ll be back after them, but in the meantime mobile til we get a solid place to post and then I’ll grab my laptop to actually read the pages that happened after I was sleeping/working.

[Malakittens]

he is scummier than everyone else

That’s funny considering a few pages back you said I had a towny post. The only post that I have posted was not understanding the RR wagon.

Also I’m a ‘she’. I really don’t mind the pronouns, but please try

and you beetlejuice onto the thread when voted too, nice

you had one towny post, a few scummy ones, and everyone posting is townier than you are

and yeah sorry, I keep misgendering people for no reason.

I didn’t beetlejuice I was already posting prior so get your facts right tia

[Toranaga]

all my thoughts on mala this game, so I'm not accused of flip flopping:

Spoiler:

VOTE: malakittens

there's no way you're both town

malakittens MQ thing is several sheeped opinions condensed in a scumpost

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just giving my thoughts on the game

I find the scumreads on elsa pretty odd and like the people doing so should know better

Do you view what I'm saying so far as expressing a scumread?

-Cerb

you wouldn't be questioning elsa if you weren't pinged by him, but I was talking about RC and malakittens. I like how both progressed with their posting and I like RC townreading mala after mala's big post about elsa that I also thought was towny.

I'm reading mala's ISO now and my thoughts about it remain the same as whatever I thought in real time. I don't like his start. I dislike #33 tonally but I have no patience to explain in any way why, it's just one of those things where the phrasing pings my radar. #89 felt to me like he was just copy/pasting stuff people said and making a scummy montage with it. and then I liked this:

It's an over dramatic serious response to a post that shouldn't even be taken super serious considering it's RC. I love RC, but he's a guy that plays off other people's reactions. Unless he's changed his playstyle in 2 years+.

Again, I don't see where someone who's been playing for over a year would blindly believe RC and think it's a real mason claim like off the bat. Then attack people for voting RC in a RVS stage.

I can't tell if you, Tora, are defending Elsa because you think elsa is a newbie that can't defend himself or it's motivated some other way.

the fact you say he's someone who didn't play with people who opened with fake claims. I wouldn't know how the site played back in 2017. I was on a leave during that time.

@elsa have you played with RC before?

cause I liked his thoughts about me here. it's a minor thing, he can be scum saying it for sure, but I backed off after this post.

I had the strong impression when people were pushing elsa, that scum had to be pushing elsa too cause he was so towny it made no sense that so many people were piling on him.

VOTE: malakittens

scummiest ISO in the game imo

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: NSG

Finally, a united front.

something like that, or my vote on you.

Okay, so your default reason given for jumping on wagons, if you don't have a reason of your own, is to express a desire for solidarity and/or just say you're sheeping the wagon?

-Cerb

I'm trying to be Neutral here and follow the Majority. very simple. No need for a deep Psycho-analysis of it.

I also like to say weird shit.

[Toranaga]

I didn’t beetlejuice I was already posting prior so get your facts right tia

sorry I didn't notice your last scummy post was so recent

[Toranaga]

Well I tried.

Anyway, voting up a dude who claimed to be in a Masonry?

Now admittedly, because this is (probably)

Multiball

he COULD theoretically be scum. But voting him?

VOTE: Malakittens

Obviously you COULD be joking, but this seems like a decent start.

I'm trying to be

Neutral

here and follow the Majority. very simple. No need for a deep Psycho-analysis of it.

I also like to say weird shit.

[Thor665]

I'm fully caught up. 100%. What I haven't done is read through the game hypercritically with the intent of finding suspicious behavior that doesn't immediately jump out at me. I've just been reading along and responding organically, as things come up and occur to me. I independently dislike the reasons Elsa gives for their votes. I agree with Cheeky's statement that I expect town!Toranaga to be vocal and aggressive and accidentally end up leading things. I agree with my other heads only stated position, that RC's early posting is reasonable for town!RC.

Did reiterating this help you understand at all?

I feel like I do understand your position, allow me to play back our conversation to help you understand mine;

Thor: Day 1 is narf, we in RVS.
You: We are absolutely not in RVS, to say otherwise is a lie!
Thor: Then what's your non-RVS case?
You: Here's a bunch of half formed thoughts I kinda agree with - I've not relly been reading enough to have anything other than off the cuff reactions.
Thor:

Did reiterating this help you understand at all?

[BuJaber]

VOTE: BuJaber

I don't like how he's shading RR without voting them and trying to push through a lynch so quickly when we have more than 13 days left to make a decision. I also know from having followed much of Secret Hitler that he can seem really towny and reasonable while actually being top scum (i.e. Hitler).

To be fair, I'm at L-2 now, and they expressed awareness of the risk of putting me at L-1.

-Cerb

If, in 10 days or whatever, they don't return to a push on me because they believe that I'm the optimal lynch for what amounts to information purposes, or at least explain exactly why someone else is a superior lynch, in a similar fashion to the way they've said I should be lynched, then you should be suspicious.

-Cerb

Generous of you to give me 10 days. I should hope you'll have your answer sooner.

Tora I can't focus at all right now.. where's the contradiction in Elsa's post?

[Toranaga]

Generous of you to give me 10 days. I should hope you'll have your answer sooner.

Tora I can't focus at all right now.. where's the contradiction in Elsa's post?

I'm making a joke but elsa is sort of softclaiming third party a bit this game. read the parts I bolded.

[BuJaber]

Is this normal for thor?

Like he's doing nothing but the argumentative for no reason tone is striking me as very townie.

I'm pretty sure we've played together but I don't remember his post style at all. :/

[Toranaga]

"I'm trying to be Neutral"

with a capital N no less lmao

pedit: yes it's normal for him

[Flicker]

@NicoRobin and randommidget

- Are you caught up? Do you have any reads on people you'd care to share (that you haven't already)?

@TPFKAP

- Where are you?

Also, for what little it's worth, here are my notes on everyone so far.

Spoiler: Barely a reads list at all

.

Vague towny pile

(not in any particular order, which could include any strength of town from 1% to 100%):

Chickadee, CheekyTeeky, northsidegal, Reasonably Rational, Toogeloo, Toranaga

Null/conflicted pile

:

RadiantCowbells,* the worst, Thor665, Malakittens, TPFKAP, Skygazer, randommidget, Elsa Jay**

Vague scummy pile

(same deal as the town pile):

BuJaber, NicoRobin

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*Probably a permanent resident, but I'll sheep other people's read on him if there's a reasonable consensus
**Pedit: He was in the towny pile until his most recent posts

[Reasonably Rational]

VOTE: NSG

Finally, a united front.

something like that, or my vote on you.

Okay, so your default reason given for jumping on wagons, if you don't have a reason of your own, is to express a desire for solidarity and/or just say you're sheeping the wagon?

-Cerb

I'm trying to be Neutral here and follow the Majority. very simple. No need for a deep Psycho-analysis of it.

I also like to say weird shit.

What does it take for you to take a position of your own? Do you ever go contrary to the general wishes of the town? Do you ever attempt to lead? Is sheeping what I should expect from you for this whole game?

-Cerb

pedit: Thor, honestly, I could make an actual serious case on shit if I wanted to, but I'm a hydra, and Drixx and I LOATHE dissonance. If you ever see us display it, it's a deliberate ploy to get some reacton. I won't give you a strong case on anything without running it by him first. The thread gets the dregs of my thoughts until we decide someone is definitely town, or someone needs to die.

[Reasonably Rational]

VOTE: BuJaber

I don't like how he's shading RR without voting them and trying to push through a lynch so quickly when we have more than 13 days left to make a decision. I also know from having followed much of Secret Hitler that he can seem really towny and reasonable while actually being top scum (i.e. Hitler).

To be fair, I'm at L-2 now, and they expressed awareness of the risk of putting me at L-1.

-Cerb

If, in 10 days or whatever, they don't return to a push on me because they believe that I'm the optimal lynch for what amounts to information purposes, or at least explain exactly why someone else is a superior lynch, in a similar fashion to the way they've said I should be lynched, then you should be suspicious.

-Cerb

Generous of you to give me 10 days. I should hope you'll have your answer sooner.

Tora I can't focus at all right now.. where's the contradiction in Elsa's post?

10 days was more towards the end of the day, as relates to your suspicion of my slot alone. Just saying that they shouldn't be concerned about your lack of a vote given the vote count unless you choose to not commit at a point when further conversation is no longer needed for this day phase.

-Cerb

[Skygazer]

all my thoughts on mala this game, so I'm not accused of flip flopping:

Spoiler:

VOTE: malakittens

there's no way you're both town

malakittens MQ thing is several sheeped opinions condensed in a scumpost

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just giving my thoughts on the game

I find the scumreads on elsa pretty odd and like the people doing so should know better

Do you view what I'm saying so far as expressing a scumread?

-Cerb

you wouldn't be questioning elsa if you weren't pinged by him, but I was talking about RC and malakittens. I like how both progressed with their posting and I like RC townreading mala after mala's big post about elsa that I also thought was towny.

I'm reading mala's ISO now and my thoughts about it remain the same as whatever I thought in real time. I don't like his start. I dislike #33 tonally but I have no patience to explain in any way why, it's just one of those things where the phrasing pings my radar. #89 felt to me like he was just copy/pasting stuff people said and making a scummy montage with it. and then I liked this:

It's an over dramatic serious response to a post that shouldn't even be taken super serious considering it's RC. I love RC, but he's a guy that plays off other people's reactions. Unless he's changed his playstyle in 2 years+.

Again, I don't see where someone who's been playing for over a year would blindly believe RC and think it's a real mason claim like off the bat. Then attack people for voting RC in a RVS stage.

I can't tell if you, Tora, are defending Elsa because you think elsa is a newbie that can't defend himself or it's motivated some other way.

the fact you say he's someone who didn't play with people who opened with fake claims. I wouldn't know how the site played back in 2017. I was on a leave during that time.

@elsa have you played with RC before?

cause I liked his thoughts about me here. it's a minor thing, he can be scum saying it for sure, but I backed off after this post.

I had the strong impression when people were pushing elsa, that scum had to be pushing elsa too cause he was so towny it made no sense that so many people were piling on him.

VOTE: malakittens

scummiest ISO in the game imo

lol okay so i dont like this whole preemptive defense thing

VOTE: toranaga

[BuJaber]

Generous of you to give me 10 days. I should hope you'll have your answer sooner.

Tora I can't focus at all right now.. where's the contradiction in Elsa's post?

I'm making a joke but elsa is sort of softclaiming third party a bit this game. read the parts I bolded.

I can see why you'd think that but I think you're reading into it. Like I very highly doubt she's 3rd party. Keep it simple.

What is your opinion on RC this game right now? Just say whatever comes to mind every thought you have about him.

Pedit.. bah I'll read and respond separetely if I have anything to say

[Elsa Jay]

Not this whole game, Cerb. just until I find the right allies to stick with. right now since Tora is nice Imma be on his side.

since you all might feel it later, I claim Neutral Doctor. apparently with all the kill mechanics I was necessary.

P-Edit: well I might be losing a friend soon. soooo.....

Who wants heals?