Open 398 - Alternating 9p- End of game

[hero_bash]

this is so obvious it hurts, btw chrimi if you read this before the other maf logs in put your vote away. i still have questions for gunny.

[Chrimi]

Go ahead and ask.

UNVOTE: So there's no quickhammer.

[hero_bash]

Gunny, are you 100% sure it's chrimi-hero_bash? I just want to know if you have doubt on that partnership fos of yours.

[UberNinja]

I'm replacing Amrun.

Please don't hammer until I have a chance to catch up and post my thoughts.
The deadline's not until the 15th so there is no excuse not to comply with this.

[UberNinja]

Ok, so here's my understanding of where we stand real quick.

Let me know if any of this is wrong: We've got an odd night doc, an even night cop, 2 goons, and competing doc claims.

Doesn't reeeaaallly matter if we lynch one of the doc claims today, because even if we hit the doc it's not like he could have acted tonight anyway cause it's not an odd night. We'll regret it tomorrow, but the 1-1 scum/town chances are far too attractive.

Wait scratch that, we are in MyLo, directly because of the doc not being useful tonight. Otherwise it could only be "possible" MyLo, but we are in hard MyLo with him as he is. So it's crucial to get it right.

[UberNinja]

@ Everyone: Who's town and who's scum, and why?

And I don't want "he's scummy butttt" answers, I want "A, B, and C are town; D and E are scum" +

solid reasons why

.

Ready? Go.

[UberNinja]

Can somebody tell me real quick why there are 3 night kills but only one lynch? What the fuck is that about

[Scott Brosius]

gg..awaiting gunny and scott(?) vote.

Err, no man. Chrimi is just bussing you for infinite Town cred for him to bag.
He ain't getting that.

Good morning...

Was not expecting an Elmo kill O.o

VOTE: Hero

..............What happened to me? You bussing your partner now right?
Doctor should claim, no?

I asked this prior to actually making the claim in order to do two things:
1. Get approval from everybody in the Daylight. I'm relatively new, didn't know Mylo=No lynches, so I wanted 100% support for the claim.
2. To see if Hero would fakeclaim. Yes. I always saw him as the kind of a fallguy for him and Chrimi team. So yeah, I was half expecting him to claim before me. Look at him coming into the day without claiming first.
But when he was put into L-1, he screams out: "I'm DOC btw forgot to claim."
Forgot? So he meant to claim prior to anything, but merely forgot?

If you go on to vote me Scott, then you posted like 10 posts in this game and helped out in killing a Doc in the live Daylight. At least let me fall during the Night after eliminating an imposter.

You didn't answer my question. Did you breadcrumb? Trying to shame me into voting hero is not going to work.

@Uber There was a NL day 1, and then we were at MYLO yesterday so we NL again. Also we should focus on shotty vs. hero at this point, everyone else is irrelevant for the time being.

[UberNinja]

Scum is drmyshotgun and one of Chrimi/Scott.

Gotta re-read Chrimi/Scott.

[UberNinja]

hoopsmcgee(4)

L-1

Splitfarvle, Chrimi, Elmo Teh AzN, drmyshotgun
Elmo Teh AzN(4)

L-1

hoopscmgee, Amrun, hero_bash, Sir Bastion
splitfarvle(1) Sotty7


Not voting:

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline: May 16, 2012 12pm(gmt),

1 days and 12 hours!

This is confusing to me.

I had it down as either a Chrimi-hero scum team or a drmyshotgun/hoopsScott scum team.
But there's one of each on each big wagon here, and neither of them switched to the other wagon to get a lynch before the end of Day 1.


Hmmmmm

Maybe I'm wrong about my scum pairings.

[UberNinja]

Wait. Maybe I'm not.

What we know for sure is that either drmyshotgun or hero_bash is scum.
I also know for sure that hero_bash as scum would probably have switched. hoops obv would not have.

I'm interested as to why drmyshotgun wouldn't switch to Elmo though. Elmo being dead and town is a HUGE relief though.

I'm also interested to read what Sotty's thought process was before (not) hammering hoopsmcgee. That could also be a reason that she was the nightkill that night; because scum knew that if the same wagons happened again, she'd be the deciding vote. That'd make a ton of sense for newb scum like drmyshotgun and hoopsmcgee.

What wouldn't make sense would be for newb scum hero_bash to want to kill off Sotty right after she'd voted the other leading wagon after the deadline; he could have thought the same wagons would happen again and she'd be an asset to have on the other side. I can't really see Sotty getting killed off by hero_bash, but perhaps by Chrimi if he's hero's scumbuddy.

All that's left to do now is to ISO hero/Chrimi, then to ISO hoops/Scott/drmyshotgun

And then I'll try to read the game in its entirety and vote.

But for now I'm heavily leaning drmyshotgun/Scott as the scum.

[UberNinja]

Another thing I'm weighing into the decision is the claims.

Why didn't hero_bash claim Doc on Day 1 when he was run up?

@ hero_bash: feel free to answer this

And then there's the point about how OF COURSE there'd be a scum counter-claim of the doc in MyLo, to force a standoff. The words "You fucking fail" don't ring entirely genuine to me, in drmyshotgun's post.

Does anyone have past scum meta for either drmyshotgun or hero_bash? I will accept EM games as well for hero_bash.

[UberNinja]

I really also don't think the obv-buddying of Chrimi and hero_bash is something anyone would do with newb-scum.

Actually, that's a really strong point. Chrimi and hero_bash are doing the exact opposite of ignoring each other.

[UberNinja]

You fucking fail.

I'm the Doctor

If you thought that shobby phoney claim would save your ass, think again.
I protected Sotty Night 1, and I protected Scott Brosius Night 3.
Now you just claimed Scum by putting a bullshit fake-claim for your partner to NK me tonight.
Well, kiss your partner goodbye.
Town, I'm happy with the hammer right this instant.
After I die, lynch Chrimi. He is Scum with this little pal.

No breadcrumbs from you I suppose? No chance hero would have left any.

drmyshotgun(1) Chrimi
Chrimi(1) hero_bash
hero_bash(1) Elmo Teh AzN

Not voting: Scott Brosius, drmyshotgun, Amrun

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline: 11th of May, 2012 9pm(gmt)

This vote count stayed constant for almost 12 hours. This means a pairing of me and shotty, me and Amrun, and Amrun and shotty are highly unlikely since we did not hop on the hammer train. This also means that if shotty is fakeclaiming, his only likely partner is Chrimi. Bleh.

Amrun and hero really make sense together, but the fact that Amrun didn't hammer shotty puts that to rest.

Ugh, it's such a good spot for a counterclaim if hero is actually the doctor, as it is so easily discredited. I'm leaning slightly towards hero being the actual doctor. I need to think about this some more. I'm weary of being "protected" N3, especially from a player who has NOT MENTIONED me at all in this game. Almost looks like an attempt to buy my vote.

I wrote this all before lolforcereplace.

On the other hand, this post makes me heavily consider a Chrimi/shotty team.

[UberNinja]

Yeah, it's Chrimi/drmyshotgun. This is my final answer.

[UberNinja]

And even if I'm wrong now, there'll be plenty of time to suss out Chrimi/Scott tomorrow after drmyshotgun flips scum.

This is fantastic. I thought I would regret replacing into this slot.

[UberNinja]

Vote: drmyshotgun

[UberNinja]

hero_bash(2)

L-1!

drmyshotgun, Chrimi
drmyshotgun(1) hero_bash

Not voting: Scott Brosius, Uberninja

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline: 15th of June, 2012 7pm(gmt)

Also,

holy shit

, this votecount

If Scott is scum, he

deserves

the win after sitting on L-1 without hammering for this long.
This just reinforces my opinion.

[UberNinja]

Mmk Scotty. Hop on. Hopefully you're not scum.

Everything fits perfectly for Chrimi/drmyshotgun as the scum team, including neither you nor Amrun/me hammering the other wagon.

Make your choice wisely. (i.e. vote drmyshotgun)

[hero_bash]

aww, and i was having secret chrimi/gunny fos too. hoping to be left alive because of my open townchrimi declaration.


btw uber what do you think of their votes at day's start, that's the only thing that bothers me if chrimi-gunny.

[hero_bash]

Why didn't hero_bash claim Doc on Day 1 when he was run up?

what's 'run up'?

[UberNinja]

Put at L-1, in this case. Why did you wait until MyLo to claim doc?

[hero_bash]

? was i L-1ed at d1?

also uber, scot has been very inactive lately, he didn't even replied last day and just have short burst of posts now, i wouldn't be surprised if he just missed the L-1s to me this day.

[UberNinja]

Shit, I meant D2

And he posted AFTER there was an L-1 on you.

[Scott Brosius]

I'm here, still perusing. Not hammering yet.