In post 5893, zMuffinMan wrote:mollie wrote:I suppose it takes balls to directly work against a flipped cop's read when they made it kind of clear that he was scum. I am not quite sure how that happened.
*shrug* i've seen this a fair bit lately and i think it's really, really bad play on a theory level - if you have a guilty on someone, you should really be pushing it and no one else; anyone else you think is scum can wait. the fact that there was an angle i could push to muddy the waters on top of my claim and other stuff meant that, with some help from nacho, i was able to at least spread doubt about your result
I have been pretty quiet about this but nacho
what do you do when you know you have a shelf life? and scum are getting lynched despite your input on another scum?
I suppose 1 could say, "hey guyz I think so and so are scum but lets lynch so and so" cos I thought that is what we did.
borky was pretty direct with that.
i also think it's especially bad play in what was obviously a role madness game where there was basically guaranteed to be some sort of protective role (and, not including the mafia inventor, there was a full doc and a modified-JK) and given you were odd-night, you would have had to survive til D4 to get another result anyway?
we figured there was a protective role. hindsight speculation isn't worth dick when you are caught up in the game and in real time.
it's something i noticed across a lot of games, but people really value keeping their roles hidden for nonsensical reasons when it seems far better to just have all the information on the table (PV seems to do this a lot and i've cringed both times i've seen him do it - particularly in gondolin, where tierce was able to spread a little doubt because of PV's pure derp - tierce got lynched anyway, but that shouldn't be possible); it baffles me when i see it happen
people probably keep their roles hidden cos there is so much flak when outing their role. and then there are the site-wide accepted fakeclaims.
I don't think there is an easy solution, the game simply played out. it was weird to see so many town players come so close but never coalesce.
