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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:37 pm

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unvote, vote dramonic


Too make our little plan move forward.

ryan... we have 6 people right now... actually, it benefits both SK and scum to kill the other killing role and go to a 4 person milo (mislynch and lose) and totally avoid being night killed by the other scum faction.

Have you read my reasoning that says that Dramonic and Scott can't both be evil?

Ok... ryan... your posts are, allow me to say, FULL OF BULLSHIT.

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ryan2754 wrote:Looking back over it, if no one has claimed redirecter/bus driver, I definitely DO NOT BELIEVE Scott's Claim. He says he was Even Night Vig. Do people really beleive this?
Again... you seem to have missed every post where I DEMANDED that the vig who had killed TP Barnum to come forward.
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Look, there hasn't been any town claims so we could afford one to discover the truth so I think that it would be a good idea to have a vig claim if he there is one and tell us who he killed.
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Alexhans wrote: I think many people are leaning heavily on scum left. That's why I would like a VIG claim to know for sure.
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Alexhans wrote: IF it is indeed a vig kill... I don't understand why said vig doesn't claim so we that know what to look for.
didn't you think about saying anything then?
Alexhans wrote:Mixed feelings. I didn't want a vig who didn't issue the kill out. I wanted, if there is one, the one that DID. That would make it likely that there is one scum partner left. Anyway, I trust scott's claim and think that there is NO odd night vig (even though he assumed there was one). So, I think there is an SK.
Ryan wrote: I see him more likely as the final scum, who killed both SJ and Stef, and is trying to get a double kill by SAYING "I vigged and he blocked it." Seeing as well, I don't have that role, we it seems obvious.
ohhhh!!!! some one is DIRTY!!!

YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU THINK SCOTT IS THE REMAINING SCUM??? AND HE KILLED SJ AND STEF? Why were you voting dramonic then? let me ask you something... who killed Panzer? Weren't you a 1-shot-vig? ah... nothing fits when you fake claim early eh?
Ryan wrote: Seeing as I am damned if I do or don't, I am still willing to hammer dramonic. Let it be said, I think SB is the final scum.
No dice. You're not gonna direct another lynch that is not you or Dramonic.
ryan ISO 15 wrote: Well it's nice the rolecop was taken out. I see we have an SK/Vig based on the stabbing.
ryan ISO 32 wrote: 4.) What is your feeling on Scott's even night vig claim? Do you still think the other vig should out himself?
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ryan ISO 27 wrote: SK Analysis. Pretty much what I did was re-read and see if there is anything that may denote SK behavior towards the PT Barnum kill.
The fact you apparently suspected Scott but later went for a claimed bomb is a good scum move... because an alive town bomb would affect your killing and lynching choices.
ryan2754 wrote:Oh and by the way, my analysis of Hero as town was earlier in the game. People's opinions and actions nchange. Alex brought up a good point though - I could see dramonic as SK.
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Given the current game status, I am going to claim. I am a One-Shot Vigilante. I Vigged PT Barnum N1.
Wow... and you feel worthy to mention it NOW???? odd... AND FRIGGING scummy.
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Well, I looked at it this way: As a One-Shot Vig, I have always been prone to make my Vig kill earlier rather than later, given that earlier, if I accidently shoot town, it has a lesser effect on the game, whereas if I One-Shot Vig later, it screws with the dynamics of the game and the situations of lylo much more than earlier.
Who cares what are your alledged reasons? And they seem pretty forced... you would actually have confidence in yourself and save that vote...
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Why did I wait to claim? To see if anyone eventually may have claimed the PT Kill other than myself.
riiight... because that was gonna happen... with already ONE outed vig...:roll:
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Personally, I don't like how Scott is CONVINCED I roleblocked him. Because, well, I didn't, and I am as much out of the loop as everyone else is. Given that he claims to have hit me, I beleive him to be lying, and is concocting this idea of me as a redirector to can another town aligned player. And well, it is working.
well... here it all lies in trusting one or the other...

And I'm much more willing to trust a claimed vig who DIDNT issue the n1 kill and still claimed when I asked than a supposed vig that claims when he sees no way out and feels about to be lynched.
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Given, the current situation ,let's look at it this way:
1.) I hammer dramonic, and either we get a bad guy, or two town players are lost. That puts us at possible end game or possible lylo next round after night actions. Town (myself included) has a lesser chance of winning if he has a correct claim (not to mention an extremely weird set up). Also, it would be a high risk, high reward scenario.
Ok... let me get this straight... you were all for lynching Dramonic... but when you have the ultimate responsability you suddenly get jeepers and try to weasel your way out? it doesn't work like that...
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2.) I don't hammer dramonic, and I get lynched (since everyone wants it to happen). We keep a potential "bomb," who could ride it to victory. One town player lost, but a better chance of town winning (statistically).
So your point is? That we lynch you directly without lynching dramonic? or this is one of those scum gambyts too appear town?

PS: This post might or might not be messy... I am working on a college project at 2:35 in the morning... it is due tomorrow... I decided to take a little break to clear my mind and guess what? It worked... I solved a big checkpoint I couldn't bypass...

Thanks Ryan for being so scummy! 8-)
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:42 pm

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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:46 pm

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Well, I really doubt we have both an even night vig and a one shot vig. We lynch one, he lies, we lynch the other.

Simple really
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:19 am

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@mod: Please revise your vote count, ryan is currently voting for dramonic and we are L-1
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:22 am

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actually...

unvote


Someone else vote dramonic, and I will hammer.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:03 am

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First of all:
ryan2754 598 wrote:Whatever, go big or go home.
Unvote: dramonic
Pay attention. Ryan unvoted.

Second. I currently trust you Morat. So I DONT want to risk your death if Dramonic is a town bomb.

Therefore. VOTE and let ryan hammer.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:32 am

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vote: dramonic


My mistake, please forgive me Mr. alexhans.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:34 am

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Is Mor paying attention? Is he serious about wanting to hammer dramonic? Good Lord, read the past few posts.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:43 am

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I read "unvote:dramonic" as "vote:dramonic", as it tends to be more prevelant to just say "unvote".

I was offering to hammer because the game had stalled out, not realising that ryan was actually unvoting to proceed with the plan suggested by a few players to have him hammer. I have no objections to allowing this to proceed, despite not really putting any faith that ryan will end up dying.

(and if he does, again, broken setup)

PS: There are no game-related votes or unvotes in this post.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:50 am

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Morat... if dramonic is scum or SK then Ryan will NOT die. if dramonic is telling the truth and ryan is town (Unlikely) then we are in some kind of night prisoners dilemma. If, dramonic is a bomb and ryan's scum or SK then we will be thrown to a 3 person lylo.

Ryan... Dramonic is all yours to hammer.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:50 am

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I'm aware of the situation.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:55 am

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HIT ME!
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:53 pm

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Vote: dramonic
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:54 pm

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Thats a lynch, scene on the way


actually thats not a lynch, my bad

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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:13 pm

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drat ><

plan failed. What now, do we lynch ryan or do we ask him to unvote?
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:14 pm

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huh.... this is lame....

Ryan... unvote...
Dramonic... vote yourself when ryan unvotes
ryan... hammer after dramonic votes himself.

Probably I will be able to tackle this game more in depth during the weekend...

SK/scum... BE AFRAID!!! muhahahahaha...

@zoraster... do you think, as you implied in your last post, that there's only one evil role left?
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:08 am

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Just self-hammer, dramonic.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:31 am

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Moratorium wrote:Just self-hammer, dramonic.
dude... what's the point? That would fuck with the town's chances if he is a town bomb...
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:44 am

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/broken record

An Un-hammerable, Un-NK'able town role is broken when claimed.

If he is truly what he says he is, this game is broken.

Therefore, I don't care who hammers. Just get rid of him.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:20 am

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Moratorium wrote:/broken record

An Un-hammerable, Un-NK'able town role is broken when claimed.

If he is truly what he says he is, this game is broken.
Seeing we have 2 Super mafia roles and there were 2 mafia kills and there seem to be no PRs that count... (possible 1 Shot vig or even vig? Come on... Doc? meh)

And there were 2 kills... So it's possible and probable that we have both SK and scum....

I assume that being broken IS a possibility.

If you add the fact that we have a flaker mod... Sign of inexperience...
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:21 am

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EBWOP: Just in case... I mean the ORIGINAL mod who thought the setup. Llama rules. :D
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:11 am

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Lets just lynch ryan
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:04 am

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I almost agree... but I would prefer to go to a dramonic-less lylo...

Im fairly confident that he can screw things up by being suspicious if he is town...

So...

I stick to my plan...
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:08 am

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actually...

Vote Ryan


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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:51 am

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Is that last post serious? How the F am I trying to "sneak" to deadline?

Oh, and alex, you didn't unvote dramonic so your vote on me doesn't count.

So the whole me hammering dramonic was a "plan?" Or do people still want me to hammer him?


Alex, how would dramonic selfhammering mess with the towns chances? He could be lying scum, or he could be bomb. If he is a bomb, and hammers himself, we don't lose an additional townie, which is better than losing two.

So what's the plan?
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