Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[Fro99er]

Unless RC thinks MBG could be scum then he should just be voting whoever because it's literally game over from his POV

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Sheep is scum in my mind moreso because of our little exchange yesterday, not because of the lack of a kill. I can easily see worlds where Fro99er and TB are scum but we'll know by tomorrow I guess.

Then vote sheep, not me

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The funny part is RC thinking this game might not be over

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MBG please for the love of Annie just unvote. What if scum has, say, an odd night roleblocker that we haven't taken into account?

What would that do.

Roleblock themselves from making the kill?

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Please MBG for the love of Annie stop.

What would have happened if I didn't slow town the fuck down when everyone wanted to powerlynch you?

There's a value to taking it s l o w. Let's take it s l o w this game.

We win regardless of who we lynch as long as we don't lynch me or you so no there is no value

THIS

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The funny part is RC thinking this game might not be over

^Which is honestly making me paranoid about RC.

RIGHT

From RC's POV this should be over.

Otherwise MBG should be in RC's lynch pool

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

[Fro99er]

Dude Fro99er you're clearly operating on less information than some of the rest of us so just chill

Dude.

from RC's POV either MBG could be scum or if he thinks MBG is town then it's game over

So RC thinks MBG could be scum is what you and he are saying

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What Would a scum odd-night roleblocker do to stop a kill last night?

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But that could be any scum role. Why am odd-night roleblocker specifically ?

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This is so dumb

VOTE: Sheep

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@Keyser: I think I already went over why I'm scum reading Matt but if I haven't I'll do so again. I found a lot of his play early on forced and felt like he was fence sitting. He's also recently been calling for my head but I don't think he's made any attempt to sort me or even has said why he's scum reading me.

I am scum reading Sheep mainly because of his push on the Transcend slot and PoE.

I didn't get why he was so focused on Transcend during D2 and it sort of pinged me because nothing really stood out to me from Transcend's play. When I looked back at their interactions on D1, all I saw was him explaining to Transcend in a sort of condescending tone about why there was a wagon on Grendel and him confirming who he is to Transcend. The latter came off more snobbish and patronizing then the former. It read like he was projecting a level of importance that he felt he rightfully earned at that point of the game which was very odd. This lead me to believe throughout my reread that there will be various play style and personality clashes between the two and that a lot of what they'll be scum reading each other for will be overblown.

At the start of D2, he voted Transcend and then I believe states he voted for him because of effort and his suspect voting pattern on D1. Effort is NAI. The second point however is a valid point but if you take a look back on D1, I believe Transcend voted for at least 4-5 different people before voting for Gerry according to my notes. What Sheep fails to acknowledge is that lot of those votes where in RVS and that scum would prefer not to bring that much attention themselves by voting like it's going out of style.

Sheep later on questions Transcend about his take on the Gerry and Grendel's wagons but does it in such a way that comes off like he's trying to show others that Transcend is stating his theories as fact. Now I have no idea why Transcend really didn't answer these questions from Sheep but his attitude seemed carefree and just genuine. I think scum would be more alert, more on guard, and try to look as pro-town as possible. Transcend did the exact opposite and while it could've been just an act, I find the simplest explanation always the most probable.

Here we are now and he's pushing nancy over her claiming immediately on replacement and only looking at the vote counts. Which is weird but doesn't make her scum. The latter however is a very bad angle to push in my opinion. Various players on this site put a lot of stock into VCA and nancy may just be one of them. Wouldn't surprise me to be honest since I've heard a lot of good things about her play. He's essentially scum reading her for play style rather than looking for the motivation of her actions.

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@Mod: I'll be v/LA till the 16th. Valentines Day.

V/LA noted

Lol LUV never voted sheep

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Matt

Still want this today after doing a reread.

I don't get the scum reads on Frog considering how strongly town read his predecessor was by Keyser. I don't think Frog's intentions when he replaced in was to attempt to bus or bus for town credit. He was in the process of catching up and read something that didn't look like something town!Jar would say and felt compelled to solely just read his ISO before catching up. If you carefully reread the interactions between him and Jar, you would see it's clearly SvT.

Instead he goes to this

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@Frogger - you have as your lynch pool Matt --> me if Matt flips scum, but Matt --> Keyser if Matt flips town. How does town Matt make me more town?

@Nancy - what goalposts did I move in scumreading you? That's BS.

@Keyser - literally almosthalf the posts I make include me stating my top scumspects, and other players are complaining that I'm vote parking - I think it is super clear who i want lynched at any given moment.

I think we should mass claim, quite frankly. I think this somuch I'm just going to start popcorning, and to hell with anyone who disagrees.

Claim: VT
Popcorn - Nancy

Unless anyone seriously has an issue with this considering the claims on the table, let's lock in.

I understand Frogg's issue with Matt's stated actions, but can see how Matt could do what he said he did as town - it's basically my reason the the abrupt massclaim demand, if we get no other PR claims then I think Matt is actually not a lynch I support today, if we get even one other then I'd vote park him until he was lynched.
I agree with whoever said Nancy felt like she was egging on Frogger/RC - the only thing I've liked about her slot posting is pointing out how the team du jour of me, Matt, Jar requires bad play - this is something I (duh) agree with, but I actually don't think there's a lot of evidence to support the stance, so find it iffy she's advancing it as an idea.
I agree with the case for Akarin town. I wouldn't help that lynch at all. I won't help lynch Frogg, that is dumb. I have my lynch pool as Grendel, LUV, and Nancy in no particular order I can describe.

Why do you feel mass claiming is our best course to victory? We are still in good shape and I find it hard to believe if you're town that you don't see that.

Hmmm

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VOTE: TB

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Is that a hammer?

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Plz say yes

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VOTE: TB

I hate playing scum. GG all.

Trolooolololololol

[Fro99er]

Fro99er is scum.

Talk about operating with less info

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I'm not

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^@nancy

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All zero times you've played wth me

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Yeah even I realized MBG was town eventually

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...eventually, lol

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This game was GOTY worthy because of all the awesome fake shit and I sucked.

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EXCEPT I TOTALLY GOT JAR JAR

(I'm a pretty good meta player)

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I was faking so much shit I almost forgot what was fake and what was real tbh

pedit bruh JJD was dead to rights before you even came along pls

Doesn't mean i didn't have a strong meta read on him.

Not mutually exclusive

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What's with Nancy just wanting to tell me I'm an idiot literally for anything.

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Anyway.

GG

[Fro99er]

I was a mafia traitor. There's one more scum left. Good luck finding him.

SHHHHHH

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VOTE: Fro99er

[Fro99er]

I misread LUV

All my other reads were based off that.

I really felt good about that one read. I was wrong

But Nancy's sitting here criticizing me over my JJD push

[Fro99er]

I misread LUV

All my other reads were based off that.

I really felt good about that one read. I was wrong

But Nancy's sitting here criticizing me over my JJD push

@Matt

[Fro99er]

I misread LUV

All my other reads were based off that.

I really felt good about that one read. I was wrong

But Nancy's sitting here criticizing me over my JJD push

@Matt

I've literally never seen JJD play like that as town. Over many town games

That was easily scum for me.

[Fro99er]

Nancy

Nancy

Nancy

I love autocorrect

Won't let me lower case it

[Fro99er]

I misread LUV

All my other reads were based off that.

I really felt good about that one read. I was wrong

But Nancy's sitting here criticizing me over my JJD push

@Matt

I've literally never seen JJD play like that as town. Over many town games

That was easily scum for me.

JJD is a pretty easy read. I've seen his play and he is not that good at scum. I think I'm even worse at scum than he is.

Any suggestions on how to improve scum play/play overall?

Drink before posting

[Fro99er]

See the only people I had experience with was RC, Keyser, and JJD.

My three correctest reads

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RC was confirmed Town long before that

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I feel like I was confirmed town based on JJD's reaction to my being innoed. you can't fake that.

This

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Also didn't actually scumread RC today.

Was trying to see if it opened the door for anyone to jump on because that would basically confirm them as scum. ThinkBig saw his opportunity

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BTW I was the culprit for not doing a short night last night.

I didn't even know Gin got lynched. I legit got stung by the most venomous scorpion in the US.

[Fro99er]

RC is the type of player who would say "2+2=5" and get people to actually believe her and lynch those who disagree.

RC is a him.

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RC is a potato

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RC is a frog

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RC is plasma

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#WhatIsRC

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RC is an RC.

Oh damn

[Fro99er]

You're awesome the way you are

Thanks!

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Lol Jar