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Post Post #3247 (isolation #600) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:22 pm

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i jailed eddie there i claimed it
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #601) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:23 pm

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now i bet alchemist wants you to think that means his "case" matters but it doesn't because the problem with his case is how he arrived at me being scum jailing my scumbuddy

but he will redirect this to meaning its about me being jailkeeper
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Post Post #3253 (isolation #602) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:24 pm

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nsg vote alchemist you know he's scum
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Post Post #3255 (isolation #603) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:25 pm

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would you vote rcenigma?
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Post Post #3260 (isolation #604) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:29 pm

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alch you want to tell us why you scumclaimed
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Post Post #3263 (isolation #605) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:34 pm

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i mean it clearly is because the logic of how you got to me being scum is so ridiculous it doesn't come from town

the only world in which this is acceptable play is if you claim informed townie and you are informed that there is a scum jailkeeper in which case i will not lynch you
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Post Post #3265 (isolation #606) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:36 pm

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Mafia will be able to communicate with each other during day phases.
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #607) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:36 pm

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i wonder if the scum team asked alchemist to throw a wrench in the plans
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Post Post #3269 (isolation #608) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:39 pm

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nah

have fun in dead pt btw
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Post Post #3275 (isolation #609) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:48 pm

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alchemist are you not one bit worried that you just made yourself the designated lynch today
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Post Post #3277 (isolation #610) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:50 pm

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i think its

alch/rcenigma like almost always

and then one of

eddie/idany/nsg
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Post Post #3278 (isolation #611) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:52 pm

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i do think however that alchemist is purposely trying to get lynched here
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Post Post #3283 (isolation #612) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:04 pm

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herewegoagain.jpg
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #613) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:34 am

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going to be gone for like 12 hours today

but please lynch alchemist
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Post Post #3410 (isolation #614) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:33 pm

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lynching nsg today is a mistake mkay
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Post Post #3411 (isolation #615) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:34 pm

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also comical shouldn't hold his tr on idany anymore if rcenigma is a scumread of his
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Post Post #3413 (isolation #616) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:13 pm

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lets just kill idany and not be fancy
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Post Post #3417 (isolation #617) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:20 pm

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ngl im just a little worried about lynching alchemist because nsg isn't confident
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Post Post #3424 (isolation #618) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:06 pm

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lol if ends up eddie vs nsg at the end of this phase im going to laugh
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Post Post #3426 (isolation #619) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:10 pm

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you two should play answer a question with a question and first to flinch loses and gets lynched
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Post Post #3429 (isolation #620) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:20 pm

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jailkeeper + evens gunsmith + fv + voyeur vs 3 mafia w a gunsmith and no traitor seems kinda low power budget for town
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Post Post #3430 (isolation #621) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:21 pm

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okay actually lets not do setup spec and lynch scum

vote alchemist/nero cain/idanny tbh

leave eddie/nsg for later, if the combined brainpower of those two can't win us the game by lylo bye bye
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Post Post #3432 (isolation #622) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:23 pm

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In post 3431, northsidegal wrote:VOTE: idany
why this over others?
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Post Post #3435 (isolation #623) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:29 pm

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dont let my desires affect you nsg

if you have a dayvig who do you pew pew

also can you conceive of a world where nrg passes a game with 6-shot gunsmith, even night gunsmith, (gated - albeit not too much) jailkeeper, fv, voyeur ? what would scum need in this case
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #624) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:33 pm

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man fv + voyeur is just weird

two auxiliary roles is that a thing in nrg?
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Post Post #3438 (isolation #625) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:36 pm

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VOTE: idany

maybe a gunsmith check on PP would be valuable along with a voyeur confirmation to turn him into a pseudo - IC
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Post Post #3440 (isolation #626) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:37 pm

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i think if we did have signifcant power; the player would claim the significant power and force a mech lynch

or there is a very good reason that the maybe existing pr isn't claiming, maybe like a loyal vig or something
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Post Post #3442 (isolation #627) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:38 pm

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In post 3441, Nero Cain wrote:i mean, there's no way that comical is a 6 shot GS. A scum GS doesn't even make that much sense since there's 1 town role with a gun. I like SS' theory that he's a rolecop but does that bypass the "there will not be a cop in this game"?
yes a rolecop is significantly different than a cop

because cops suck ass
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Post Post #3443 (isolation #628) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:40 pm

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okay nsg

time to ask you

what do you think the combinations of idany/eddie cane alignments are?

do you think eddie not hammering matters?
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Post Post #3512 (isolation #629) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:15 am

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i think an nsg lynch today is a mistake

we have much better lynches
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Post Post #3513 (isolation #630) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:15 am

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and nsg has too many scumreads to be worth sheeping a specific path tbh
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Post Post #3515 (isolation #631) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:30 am

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you, idany, alchemist
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Post Post #3516 (isolation #632) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:30 am

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id even do eddie cane over nsg tbh
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Post Post #3518 (isolation #633) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:36 am

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idany has lurked out most of the phases really without ever you know, playing the game + he fits into a lot of diferent scum teams

alchemist took an absolutely bizarro push on me that doesn't really make sense from a genuine progression pov and i suspect he did it to distract us from lynching you
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Post Post #3519 (isolation #634) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:37 am

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nero how much of the game did you read before you rep'd in btw

how much of rcenigma's iso did you read
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Post Post #3521 (isolation #635) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:41 am

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have you read the entire game?
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Post Post #3523 (isolation #636) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 3421, Nero Cain wrote:
AND
that's even assuming that you aren't able to talk your way out of rope, in which case scum just wins.

I might be willing to buy that town is a gated gunsmith (me) a jailkeep, a voyuer, and a fruit vendor but that still makes you scum and prob means

the last 2 scum are in

Something_Smart
Eddie Cane
Alchemist21
Auro

maybe Cane and Auro
how did you come up with this list then
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Post Post #3529 (isolation #637) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:52 am

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In post 3524, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3518, OkaPoka wrote:idany has lurked out most of the phases really without ever you know, playing the game + he fits into a lot of diferent scum teams

alchemist took an absolutely bizarro push on me that doesn't really make sense from a genuine progression pov and i suspect he did it to distract us from lynching you
neither of these really impress me.

Is there any reason that u r scum reading my slot beyond comical sorta-kinda claiming a guilty? What do you think of him not hard pushing me as scum anymore? Will you still think he's town when I flip town.
yes.
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Post Post #3530 (isolation #638) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:54 am

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In post 3525, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3516, OkaPoka wrote:id even do eddie cane over nsg tbh
you would do eddie cane?
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Post Post #3531 (isolation #639) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:58 am

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rcenigma just fits better

he was pushing a lynch pool on a specific subset of pine voters for the wrong reasons and was trying to make it more than it was while he just so happened to remove the most scummy player on the wagon

and he was hard pushing the subset of {nsg,comical,auro} and then me, and i feel like the people he was trying to push are all objectively townier than his slot

but if he is town, then its probably nsg but i don't think he flips town
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Post Post #3533 (isolation #640) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:05 am

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i suppose lynching nsg does accomplish basically revealing rcenigma's alignment because they are almost always anti aligned

so its a question of who do you think is scum more often here and which slot is more valuable

anyways im waiting of nsg's analysis of eddie/idan before i actually decide if im okay with nsg dying today
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Post Post #3534 (isolation #641) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:07 am

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In post 3532, Nero Cain wrote:So essentially u were scumreading RCE b/c he had opinions on the gamestate that were different from yours with a side of OMGUS salt. Amazing play and analysis.
lolwut? sure i guess but his lynch pool happened to be my townpool except for maybe nsg and he his gamestate analysis should've lead him to eddie cane but he decided to remove him from the pool and never explained why substantially
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Post Post #3535 (isolation #642) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:10 am

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he says pine lynch bad mkay

he says pine lynch must have scum because lynch was bad

well guess what? pine got lol hammered by eddie cane

and guess who is like the one person rcenigma removes from his lynch pool of pine voters, eddie cane... doesn't really substantiate why, he's just like maybe eddie cane can be after we run through the rest of my pool

and honestly what makes it worse is when he voted me, he sided with his top scumread and a nullread under the guise of wanting to lynch a pine voter

he could've decided to vote eddie cane there or stick on dann, but nah no red flags for siding with his literal top scumread
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Post Post #3536 (isolation #643) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:10 am

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he says pine lynch bad mkay

he says pine lynch must have scum because lynch was bad

well guess what? pine got lol hammered by eddie cane

and guess who is like the one person rcenigma removes from his lynch pool of pine voters, eddie cane... doesn't really substantiate why, he's just like maybe eddie cane can be after we run through the rest of my pool

and honestly what makes it worse is when he voted me, he sided with his top scumread and a nullread under the guise of wanting to lynch a pine voter

he could've decided to vote eddie cane there or stick on dann, but nah no red flags for siding with his literal top scumread
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Post Post #3537 (isolation #644) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:12 am

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In post 849, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 847, OkaPoka wrote:Rce where is eddie in ur pool
Probably next in line after Dann/comical/auto

He's null plus a lol hammer, I just have tangible/weak/stronger reasons to scumread the other 3.
In post 1759, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: okapoka any of the pine voters are fine.
im at two votes here and eddie's at two votes albeit eddie is voting himself
In post 1750, schadd_ wrote:
errantparabola has a high-fiber diet.

Spoiler:
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Vote count 2.a


Dannflor (2):
Alchemist21, RCEnigma
OkaPoka (2):
Comical, PenguinPower
Eddie Cane (2):
OkaPoka, Eddie Cane
Auro (1):
iDanyboy
Luna Fox (1):
Dannflor
PenguinPower (1):
Luna Fox

not voting (2):
Something_Smart, Auro

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. day 2 ends april 6th at 13:45 central US time; in (expired on 2020-04-06 13:45:00)


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see anything wrong with voting me here as rcenigma? why is rcenigma teaming up with comical even if he's not invested? ? ? its not like pp is a mega townread of his, he's reiterated his townreads are alchemist and clidd soooooo
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Post Post #3538 (isolation #645) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:17 am

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nero cain is the right vote here guys tyvm
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Post Post #3541 (isolation #646) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:20 am

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actually trust me on this one guys

VOTE: eddie cane
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Post Post #3542 (isolation #647) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:20 am

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auro if you trust me pivot onto eddie for me

nsg if you trust me pivot onto eddie
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Post Post #3543 (isolation #648) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:21 am

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we lynch eddie and if he flips red we lynch nero
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Post Post #3546 (isolation #649) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:22 am

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no auro trust me on this
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Post Post #3547 (isolation #650) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:22 am

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i need your vote
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Post Post #3550 (isolation #651) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:23 am

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In post 3539, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, I can understand a "I think this and u think that so u must be scum for not thinking the same as me!" but sometimes (most of the time really) it's just two town disagreeing with each other. Most ppl r leaving Eddie alone and im not really sure why.
if i get nightkilled just know that everything nero says here doesn't make sense tyvm
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Post Post #3551 (isolation #652) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:24 am

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In post 3548, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3543, OkaPoka wrote:we lynch eddie and if he flips red we lynch nero
oh yes, I can't just have a correct scum read, I must be bussing. :(
if you want to help town read teh game
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Post Post #3552 (isolation #653) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:25 am

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In post 3549, Auro wrote:
In post 3546, OkaPoka wrote:no auro trust me on this
And if he flips green - what then?
i trust town will make the right decision
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Post Post #3558 (isolation #654) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:27 am

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no offense nero but if you are scum you aren't deciding the night kill
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Post Post #3564 (isolation #655) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:31 am

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so nero then why did you read at least 100 post when u rep'd in lol
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Post Post #3569 (isolation #656) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:33 am

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eddie vote nero with me?
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Post Post #3576 (isolation #657) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:37 am

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In post 3322, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 109, OkaPoka wrote:clidd why don't you just work with comical for today and lynch pine and then tomorrow you can work on comical!
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Post Post #3577 (isolation #658) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:37 am

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your catchup got to at least post 109
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Post Post #3583 (isolation #659) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:42 am

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In post 3581, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3576, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 3322, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 109, OkaPoka wrote:clidd why don't you just work with comical for today and lynch pine and then tomorrow you can work on comical!
yes good job, you proved that I can quote posts. Solid post.
read the next post
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Post Post #3587 (isolation #660) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:46 am

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this game hurts my head
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Post Post #3589 (isolation #661) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:48 am

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so who did you iso skim?
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Post Post #3601 (isolation #662) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:59 am

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this game is so incredibly annoying god
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Post Post #3605 (isolation #663) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:02 am

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at this point i wonder if its something incredibly zany like eddie/auro/idany ughdsfda

all of my solves are just getting dumpstered by probably theater
VOTE: idany
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Post Post #3608 (isolation #664) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:03 am

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its just this game

makes absolutely no sense

just no sense

no sense
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Post Post #3611 (isolation #665) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:05 am

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pp go fruit nsg i won't jail nsg tonight

luna should probably voyeur nsg
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Post Post #3615 (isolation #666) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 3610, northsidegal wrote:
In post 3533, OkaPoka wrote:anyways im waiting of nsg's analysis of eddie/idan before i actually decide if im okay with nsg dying today
i'm honestly fairly surprised that you don't townread me. this is quite the reversal from our usual situation, i feel.

anyways, i think that idany is the more interesting of the two when it comes to associatives in that he has some pretty notable ones. eddie not hammering him is one, yes, but that alone is fairly weak. comical's hard defense of him is another. i'm not making any sort of real claim that these are strong associations, but what i am saying is that i think it's interesting that this slot that has basically been empty the entire game even
has
these sort of associations. i'm not sure if that's normal for slots like that, and my inclination is to say no.
have we ever rolled town together
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Post Post #3618 (isolation #667) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 3612, Auro wrote:@Oka: Please show me why a PoE pool of {Alch, iDany, Nero Cain, NSG} makes no sense.
Hell, remove iDany because of neg associations with Alch and NSG.

Tell me how an exact solve of {iDany, Nero Cain, NSG} makes no sense, without referring to the simple unlikelihood of my having caught the entire scumteam, etc
rcenigma was pushing for dann pretty hard for bad reasons early d2 and him basically flaking is idk ~hardbussing dann and a flake? like rce's slot just makes absolutely no sense, his reads just make no sense and how he made those reads make no sense
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Post Post #3621 (isolation #668) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:09 am

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there are just too many slots with reads that just don't make sense

people are literally aligning with their scumreads like it doesn't bother them ugh
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Post Post #3632 (isolation #669) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:17 am

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eddie just claim right now then
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Post Post #3643 (isolation #670) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:25 am

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ss and alchemist ur up

this site is dying on my end
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Post Post #3648 (isolation #671) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:33 am

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lynch idany tyvm bye
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Post Post #3682 (isolation #672) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:37 pm

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i htink everyone else has claimed now ss so you might as well
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Post Post #3684 (isolation #673) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:40 pm

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SS I trust you that what information you are sitting on matters more by hiding it

So I guess the question is does your role pm make it so this setup of 6-shot GS, even night gunsmith, slightly nerfed jailkeeper, voyeur, fv as town power roles impossible?
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Post Post #3690 (isolation #674) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:45 pm

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okay so boon is just always town here because the alternative setup with boon being scum will never be strong enough for town

i guess i might jail boon then
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Post Post #3693 (isolation #675) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:47 pm

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nsg does boon being locktown make sense and what does that change for oyou
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Post Post #3699 (isolation #676) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:59 pm

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im just not confident enough on nsg scum to lynch her

she's like number 5 on my list
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Post Post #3705 (isolation #677) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:04 pm

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i have between 2 and 5 shots on my jailkeeper ability
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Post Post #3709 (isolation #678) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:07 pm

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i just want to lynch idany and push this problem to tomorrow tbh
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Post Post #3713 (isolation #679) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:10 pm

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okay who has the most scum equity with nsg here boon
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Post Post #3718 (isolation #680) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:14 pm

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In post 3716, Eddie Cane wrote:You probably shouldn't claim your target.
its fine because i may or may not be jailing boon based on the virtue of a coin flip
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Post Post #3722 (isolation #681) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:17 pm

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nsg i need it pls
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Post Post #3724 (isolation #682) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:18 pm

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boon i said that because your reads went from diametrically opposing me to matching me lmfao
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Post Post #3734 (isolation #683) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:22 pm

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PENGUIN CLAIM IF YOU ARE A STRONG FRUIT VENDOR (IE LOYAL)

DONT NEED TO SAY SPECIFIC FV JUST IF YOU ARE RELEVANT
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Post Post #3738 (isolation #684) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:24 pm

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OKAY NSG

now that boon is lock town whats ur solve
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Post Post #3739 (isolation #685) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:25 pm

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penguin will not swing this balance to matter so just give me a solve i can be comfortable with

i really really want you to be town plz
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Post Post #3742 (isolation #686) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:26 pm

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In post 3740, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 3738, OkaPoka wrote:now that boon is lock town whats ur solve
'splain to me pls
setup would be wildly in scum's favor even if its 3 goons if boon is scum

eddie why aren't you voting nsg lol
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Post Post #3745 (isolation #687) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:27 pm

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In post 3741, northsidegal wrote:oka, i already told you what my conclusions would be if i assumed comical to 100% be town.
could you remind meee
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Post Post #3747 (isolation #688) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:28 pm

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In post 3743, northsidegal wrote:is this the metric you're using to decide how much you want to lynch me or not? how much you like my "solve" after all this information?
stop making me feel so bad pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasfsdfasdfsadfasdfasdfadsf

this is why i hate being townread uashd;fasdf
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Post Post #3750 (isolation #689) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:30 pm

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i just want someone to project confidence on a rigid solve ;-;
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Post Post #3752 (isolation #690) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:33 pm

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PEER PRESSURE NSG ITS PEER PRESSURE
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Post Post #3755 (isolation #691) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:35 pm

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now i can;t exactly piece together why you would be scum but i cant exactly piece together why you would be town either other than you haven't flaked out on us yet

id just feel incredibly awful if town lost to scum you because in that case 90% of the blame is on me because im the most vocal player on this list who isn't pursuing a lynch on you and i hold decent power in the sense that people legimately townread me and even luna is following me
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Post Post #3757 (isolation #692) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:38 pm

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i dont want to be townread anymore
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Post Post #3760 (isolation #693) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:41 pm

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an rce lynch today would make me much more comfortable

doing anything to the nsg slot just makes me so uncomfortable like asdf3120d
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Post Post #3763 (isolation #694) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:45 pm

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nsg do you know what worries me the most here

its that you are so plenty aware of what makes you scummy and its such a surface level correction that this is the game you flip the switched

sdnaof903jfdaosdfjerkodf

i just dont want to get shoshin'd
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Post Post #3766 (isolation #695) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:49 pm

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NSG IS NERO SCUM

BOON IS NERO SCUM
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Post Post #3767 (isolation #696) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:50 pm

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nsg you have nero as a top scum right, nothign changed?

boon you too?
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Post Post #3770 (isolation #697) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:51 pm

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nsg you scumread nero right
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Post Post #3773 (isolation #698) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:53 pm

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okay ignore mechanics

by play

rcenigma/nero cain scum equity thoughts?
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Post Post #3776 (isolation #699) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:55 pm

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omg im going to have a fucking heart attack over this game
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Post Post #3777 (isolation #700) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:55 pm

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In post 3775, northsidegal wrote:
In post 3773, OkaPoka wrote:okay ignore mechanics

by play

rcenigma/nero cain scum equity thoughts?
sure, i don't consider him town at all.
so you think that he is scum like very likely scum by play
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Post Post #3780 (isolation #701) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:56 pm

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boon get back in here

you still scumread nero?
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Post Post #3782 (isolation #702) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:59 pm

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okay

can we all agree that boon, nsg, eddie are probably the strongest scum hunters here

they all have consensus on lynching nero cain, lets just do this and sort the rest later when im hopefully dead

VOTE: nero cain
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Post Post #3784 (isolation #703) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:00 pm

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we have a secret consensus lynch in nero cain


don't let him maybe being an even night gs do anything, if he's an even night gs odds are they have mafia docs anyways or something
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Post Post #3788 (isolation #704) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:03 pm

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i dont feel comfortable lynching someone that isn't in comical's pool at all
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Post Post #3790 (isolation #705) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:04 pm

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nsg pls just move vote
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Post Post #3794 (isolation #706) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:09 pm

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In post 3791, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3790, OkaPoka wrote:nsg pls just move vote
for the record

any scum who isn't terrible is killing you tonight, so you should make sure you lynch the person you want dead today.
this game is too hard and we have lots of strong players here

i just want to set town up for success and i think lynching nero cain does that
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Post Post #3796 (isolation #707) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:11 pm

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kill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cainkill nero cain
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Post Post #3803 (isolation #708) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:14 pm

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i cant false positive
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Post Post #3810 (isolation #709) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:15 pm

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PLEASE VOTE NERO NSG
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Post Post #3812 (isolation #710) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm

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AGHHH
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Post Post #3814 (isolation #711) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm

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DO IT OR U DIE
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Post Post #3817 (isolation #712) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:18 pm

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In post 3816, PenguinPower wrote:lol i'm just gonna kill oka
SCUMSLIP?
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Post Post #3822 (isolation #713) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:20 pm

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okay

lets just stack luna, pp, and nero onto one target if he's not going to be lynched
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #714) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:21 pm

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Boon targets iDany with gunsmith

Luna, PP, Nero targets NSG with their abilities

I will jail either Boon or NSG
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Post Post #3832 (isolation #715) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:24 pm

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okay fine

we stack all our abilities onto something_smart
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Post Post #3834 (isolation #716) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:24 pm

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In post 3830, Auro wrote:Boon should randomize his shot within a few slots, I think. Oka, I would ask you to please not jail Boon? Since I think he's town and given the claims he's effectively a cop.
and im effectively a doctor that might roleblock

so nah

flipping a coin here and letting scum decide if they want to risk missing a nk
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Post Post #3844 (isolation #717) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:34 pm

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ok nsg

i think there is nothing i can do to stop your death if you aren't willing to lynch nero

so take your time and put together some last closing posts for town to use to solve the game in the future
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Post Post #3847 (isolation #718) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:39 pm

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VOTE: alch

my last olive branch for you nsg
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Post Post #3848 (isolation #719) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:41 pm

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ugh

VOTE: idany
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Post Post #3853 (isolation #720) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:43 pm

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im not convinced nsg is scum adsfse4dafasef
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Post Post #3859 (isolation #721) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:44 pm

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I DONT
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Post Post #3860 (isolation #722) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:45 pm

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okay i think the luna/pp/nero cain should stack onto auro
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Post Post #3864 (isolation #723) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:49 pm

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auro/nsg antialigned at least
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Post Post #3865 (isolation #724) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:49 pm

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does that mean nsg and alch are aligned?
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Post Post #3866 (isolation #725) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:49 pm

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nsg/alch/x

auro/idany/x
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Post Post #3867 (isolation #726) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:51 pm

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nsg/alch/nero? does that make sense?

auro/idany/eddie? does that make sense?
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Post Post #3876 (isolation #727) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:58 pm

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how about we lynch idany

and if he greens we lynch nsg
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Post Post #3883 (isolation #728) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:08 pm

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I HAVE NO REASON TO SCUMREAD NSG
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Post Post #3885 (isolation #729) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:11 pm

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BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO GET SHOSHIN'D AGAIN
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Post Post #3892 (isolation #730) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:19 pm

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i have reason to scumread idany ughhh
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Post Post #3899 (isolation #731) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:26 pm

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im putting too much effort into this

nsg good luck getting the votes for idany

ill be here but im not going to be the active pusher
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Post Post #3900 (isolation #732) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:28 pm

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in fact

i am now a silent voter

nobody can manipulate me because i will hammer any wagon

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #3908 (isolation #733) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:33 pm

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good luck!
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Post Post #3912 (isolation #734) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:35 pm

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shut up eddie your making this harder

but pp i guess is similar to SS in that they are personal lean towns for me and i have enough lean scums to not warrant placing them anywhere in my solves
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Post Post #3915 (isolation #735) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:36 pm

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get nsg to l1 i will hammer at deadline

get idany to l1 i will hammer at deadline

time to sit back and relax
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Post Post #3916 (isolation #736) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:36 pm

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now if they are both at l1, i will choose to hammer who gets to l1 first

you have my word
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Post Post #3920 (isolation #737) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:41 pm

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preemptive f in chat for nsg
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Post Post #3923 (isolation #738) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:42 pm

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what are the night actions btw

idany stack?
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Post Post #3924 (isolation #739) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:43 pm

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luna, pp, nero target idany tonight
boon checks S_S
i will jail someone
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Post Post #3927 (isolation #740) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:44 pm

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In post 3924, OkaPoka wrote:
luna, pp, nero target idany tonight
boon checks S_S
i will jail someone
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Post Post #3929 (isolation #741) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:45 pm

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anyways if nsg flips green

auro is lockscum
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Post Post #3932 (isolation #742) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3930, northsidegal wrote:oka, if you are town you are being quite foolish. if you're scum you've played a masterful game.
its for this exact reason why i feel like auro has to be scum if you are town

if im scum id be unbelievably happy lynching a town nsg
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Post Post #3934 (isolation #743) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:47 pm

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both wagons at l2?
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Post Post #3937 (isolation #744) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:48 pm

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YES
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Post Post #3939 (isolation #745) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:48 pm

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flashwagon alch am so down
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Post Post #3941 (isolation #746) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:49 pm

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flashwagon alch

flashwagon nero

are all preferable
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Post Post #3949 (isolation #747) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:53 pm

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wait no ss moved off of dany

dany is - nsg, pp, alch

nsg is - comical, auro, dany, ss
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Post Post #3952 (isolation #748) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:53 pm

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okay now its dany - nsg,pp,alch,ss

nsg - comical, auro, dany
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Post Post #3953 (isolation #749) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:54 pm

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dany is at l2?
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Post Post #3955 (isolation #750) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:54 pm

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i think the gameplan is to stack night actions on nsg

nsg clearly didn't want to be gunsmith'd earlier but the nsg problem won't go away anytime soon
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #751) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:55 pm

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actually wait

boon should check nsg

nero/nsg has some equity
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #752) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:56 pm

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so does alch/nero augh
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Post Post #3963 (isolation #753) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:57 pm

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the NSG problem is where you will always be scumread by a sizable enough part of the playerlist to be a viable lynch wagon
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Post Post #3964 (isolation #754) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:57 pm

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i dont understand why you don't think thats evident

you should want a clear otherwise tomorrow we just repeat a wagon onto you today
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Post Post #3965 (isolation #755) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:58 pm

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and nsg i have no reasons to scumread you

but i also have no reason to townread you other than meta

meta that is ridiculously easy to break and anybody who rolls scum would salivate to have a meta like that
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Post Post #3968 (isolation #756) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:02 pm

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i think exactly auro and idany are scum if you are town

a clear on you is enough reassurance for me not to sheep boon
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Post Post #3975 (isolation #757) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:04 pm

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like nsg every single fucking lynch that has been pushed has been met with resistance okay its not easy for me

i pushed idany, well boon doesn't want idany and boon is literally basically an IC
i pushed rcenigma/nero, well you don't it and boon doesn't want it
i pushed alch, well apparently the votes just never appear
i pushed eddie cane, well boon doesn't want eddie cane and eddie cane just shits on any solve that includes him
and you are resisting you

my hands are fucking nailed down
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Post Post #3977 (isolation #758) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:05 pm

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MY TOP SCUMREADS IN ORDER IS NERO CAIN INTO ALCHEMIST
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Post Post #3982 (isolation #759) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:07 pm

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nsg is accusing me of cognitive bias against nsg

comical is accusing me of cognitive bias in favor of nsg

i love it
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Post Post #3985 (isolation #760) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:08 pm

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what if scum is auro/nero/idany
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Post Post #3986 (isolation #761) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:09 pm

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nsg/alch/nero
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Post Post #3989 (isolation #762) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:10 pm

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okay how about i follow whoever can put together the most coherent team solve

because this is going circular
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Post Post #3994 (isolation #763) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:12 pm

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In post 3972, northsidegal wrote:
In post 3965, OkaPoka wrote:and nsg i have no reasons to scumread you

but i also have no reason to townread you other than meta

meta that is ridiculously easy to break and anybody who rolls scum would salivate to have a meta like that
Oh, please. Must we really go through this again?

This game isn't about possibilities. It's about probabilities. What is the most likely scenario, and why.



The only way I can reconcile you believing that I can play so far removed from my scumgame is if you believe that before this point I have been trust-telling and deliberately gimping my scumgame. I know that some people do think this.

Is that what you think?
i feel like a response to this question isn't going to be both healthy and fully honest at the same time
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Post Post #3996 (isolation #764) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:13 pm

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sorry boon but i don't feel like iso'ing you

whats your solve
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Post Post #4002 (isolation #765) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:16 pm

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okay

can we resolve this later with some gunsmith checks

nsg doesn't want to be gunsmithed, do you really think she is maf doc?
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Post Post #4008 (isolation #766) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:18 pm

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i want to sidestep an nsg lynch as much as possible because well - i don't scumread her

but like i dont want to be blamed for losing this game lol

lol

selfish i know but since everyone townreads me it is what it is for the sake of transparency
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Post Post #4010 (isolation #767) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:19 pm

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sigh - nsg i dont scumread you can that just be enough
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Post Post #4015 (isolation #768) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:22 pm

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dont ... want ... to ... take ... leap
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Post Post #4019 (isolation #769) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:23 pm

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In post 4014, Comical wrote:I will take full responsibility for this wagon. You won’t be blamed because I’m the one who’s been trying to convince you.

Nsg today, move on until tomorrow.
if nsg flips town im still blaming myself lol wat
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Post Post #4023 (isolation #770) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:25 pm

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In post 4017, northsidegal wrote:
In post 4010, OkaPoka wrote:sigh - nsg i dont scumread you can that just be enough
That doesn't mean anything if you're still willing to vote me. It honestly looks like just a way that you can make yourself feel better.

Oka, as much as I want you to reevaluate because it helps town win this game, I also want you to reevaluate because I feel like this is an obvious instance of a cognitive bias, almost a phobia. You're telling me that you don't scumread me but you still have this deep fear that I'll be shoshin and the game will be lost because of you, and I think that that kind of fear is deadly, in this game and in any other. I mean, I don't know how to say this without coming off as super corny, but I would be pretty happy for you if you overcame that in the same way that I'm happy for a friend overcoming a fear of rollercoasters or something.
ok nsg ur town, happy
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Post Post #4028 (isolation #771) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:26 pm

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YES
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Post Post #4029 (isolation #772) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:26 pm

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LYNCH ALCH/NERO AM SO DOWN
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Post Post #4032 (isolation #773) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:27 pm

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boon ill let you pick which one and ill follow
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Post Post #4036 (isolation #774) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:28 pm

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VOTE: alch
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Post Post #4046 (isolation #775) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 4042, Auro wrote:
In post 4035, northsidegal wrote:i genuinely want you to change your mind because i think that you're making a mistake and i think that you could change your mind in a way that i don't for, say, comical or auro.
Interesting.
Oka, if NSG flips red, will you then treat me as locktown? :3
yes

VOTE: nero
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Post Post #4050 (isolation #776) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:32 pm

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PLEASE GUNSMITH NSG

SHE ISNT MAF DOC LIKE EVERLOL
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Post Post #4055 (isolation #777) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:32 pm

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VOTE ALCH WITH ME BOON

IM STARTING TO FEEL REALLY BAD FOR NSG
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Post Post #4068 (isolation #778) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:36 pm

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NSG why can't you play well as scum?
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Post Post #4076 (isolation #779) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:38 pm

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In post 4073, northsidegal wrote:
In post 4068, OkaPoka wrote:NSG why can't you play well as scum?
would you mind if i asked where you were going with this? i should also say that i don't think the answer is altogether very simple.
im just wondering what do you think is holding you back because you seem cognizant of it
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Post Post #4078 (isolation #780) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:39 pm

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if nsg flips town you are still locktown boon because roles ugh
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Post Post #4091 (isolation #781) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:44 pm

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oh my god lets just fucking lynch nero cain nobody townreads that slot
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Post Post #4092 (isolation #782) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:44 pm

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its even worse because the reason he should be kept alive is mechanics so if oyu are scum you jsut follow that logic
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Post Post #4097 (isolation #783) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:46 pm

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In post 4095, northsidegal wrote:
In post 4089, Comical wrote:@NSG - which of Penguin, Alchemist, Nero is scum?
i don't particularly townread nero, of the three.
In post 4091, OkaPoka wrote:oh my god lets just fucking lynch nero cain nobody townreads that slot
why are you against lynching idanyboy? now that luna is here, we actually have enough votes to hammer.
i will lynch idanyboy
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Post Post #4105 (isolation #784) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:47 pm

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honestly i bet schadd's pfp is an accurate reflection of his feelings right now

just laughing at this chaotic mess
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Post Post #4111 (isolation #785) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:49 pm

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VOTE: conspiracy

everyone is trolling me
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Post Post #4122 (isolation #786) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:53 pm

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honestly

i blame alch for turning this game into a mess

i dont know if he did it on purpose or not, but his case on me splintered the nero cain wagon, and now this game is a mess and a half
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Post Post #4123 (isolation #787) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:53 pm

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we should lynch alch for that because i want to believe he is a master scum manipulator
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Post Post #4128 (isolation #788) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:55 pm

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this fucking game is getting zanier and zanier
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Post Post #4130 (isolation #789) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:55 pm

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In post 4127, Luna Fox wrote:Idk like, maybe i'm being emotional or something, but i have a hard time seeing her as scum =/
omg yes i feel this so much
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Post Post #4135 (isolation #790) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:56 pm

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atp im not even in my town range anymore
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Post Post #4139 (isolation #791) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:57 pm

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nero cain shut up your scum
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Post Post #4141 (isolation #792) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:58 pm

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what if scum is just three trolls who have no purpose what so ever and are just maximizing chaos for the shits in giggles
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Post Post #4149 (isolation #793) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:00 pm

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stack on nsg
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Post Post #4152 (isolation #794) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:00 pm

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I'll coinflip between jailing nsg or boon
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Post Post #4159 (isolation #795) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:02 pm

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anyways nobody is allowed to hammer until we figure out night actions
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Post Post #4162 (isolation #796) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:03 pm

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In post 4160, Nero Cain wrote:I'm targeting auro, you guys should join me there
no you are going to be leashed
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Post Post #4167 (isolation #797) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:03 pm

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we need luna to confirm gunsmith and fv actions
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Post Post #4170 (isolation #798) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:04 pm

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ideally the person we stack on has decent town equity as well btw

otherwise scum have a few plays they can make
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Post Post #4172 (isolation #799) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:04 pm

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i am not comfortable with nero dictating the target

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