Staplers (Scum PT)

[Lazy Shirou]

in the "NK analysis" I'll just comment that again out of Pooky/Shea/Tbone, pooky was the most amenable to me and blah blah blah, which will kinda associate you with the townies that were pushing me

are you fine with that?

[T-Bone]

I'll only get limmed by PoE, not because I got caught.

[Lazy Shirou]

I'll only get limmed by PoE, not because I got caught.

Yeah

the lim pool is tight in this game

[Lazy Shirou]

i think u are good though and psyche slot is in a pretty good spot so i don't wanna sound optimistic but...i think we have a pretty good shot at winning right now

[Lazy Shirou]

shea hasn't quite posted readlist but sheep did post a upside down readlist

[Lazy Shirou]

just tell me if you're ok or not with my talking about you in the nk analysis though i guess, it would just be a quick comment

[T-Bone]

I don't think you should post any further game content.

[Lazy Shirou]

just this one post please?

[Lazy Shirou]

i think it'll look really bad on enchant at lategame and i think it may be necessary for enchant to look bad later due to PoE

[Lazy Shirou]

nevermind...fine i guess i'll just troll and AtE/act defeated to make them think they have figured out the scum team plan

[T-Bone]

I mean I cannot stop you. But I think that you freaked out at Shea a few days ago and not me already looks bad for me. So I'm not sure this NK analysis will help. I think acting defeated will help more tbh, it'll maybe help the Alisae replace out thing for me.

[T-Bone]

Basically I'd like to draw as little attention as possible to what you currently think in thread.

[Lazy Shirou]

But I think that you freaked out at Shea a few days ago and not me already looks bad for me

i think pushing you too hard would look like distancing later on so that's why i didn't do it but maybe you're right idk

[Lazy Shirou]

Basically I'd like to draw as little attention as possible to what you currently think in thread.

tbone but isn't that a mindset about trying to make me survive today?

my plan was always to die today together with norwee and mislead them into other people though, i could have tried to get one more mislim before going down after norwee or so but if it failed it would perhaps make the PoE even smaller so...

[Lazy Shirou]

but uh yeah i'll just post the nk thing and then mostly troll

[T-Bone]

I mean I'm gonna hit Shea with that later. I don't want anyone to look back on this part of the game and think something you did town-confirmed people. That's why I don't think you should post anymore game content. WIFOM is not good once you're caught.

[Lazy Shirou]

huh

tbone i've the impression you think i was acting like that towards the norwee wagon to look anti-aligned when it was actually to make people think i was trying to look anti-aligned bc the PoE here is so tight that i genuinely think that me dying and putting you both in a better spot + associating some people is better than me being alive (ali and gamma for example look significantly worse on my flip now) but...yeah sorry i already posted a bit but that was the last

[T-Bone]

Remember I gotta keep playing, so the less game content you post, and the more AtE you post, the better.

[Lazy Shirou]

like

i don't feel like i'm caught because after they switched norwee and even a bit before i was intentionally trying to make them think i was trying to protect norwee by voting psyche...and it worked

and now sheep already commented on gamma looking kinda bad on my flip, and ali as well, the PoE is getting wider

i don't feel like i'm caught even if i'm dying because literally everything i wanted to happen is happening, but i guess it can see that way on a classical view of not getting caught = not dying

i think this game had too little mislims after the Ali rep out though so i did this as the best i think i could do

but i respect ur take on it yeah

[T-Bone]

What I mean by caught, is that you're the most likely flip for today. So if we do flip you, everything from the Norwee lim till your flip is going to be assumed as you trying to manipulate the game state cause you were caught. You're right that we could lim someone else, but that momentum doesn't exist yet.

[T-Bone]

Like if that momentum were to happen, I think it would be by you making a convincing AtE case that Norwee and Norwee alone was setting you up. You start trying to set anything else up with any other player and it'll just shrink the mislim pool if we flip you anyway.

[T-Bone]

That's like the most dangerous thing to me and psyche's replacement, shrinking the mislim pool. There's nothing you can post at this point that will expand it, because the other players will view you as trying to set up mislims. We have to let the other players set up their own mislims.

[Lazy Shirou]

Like if that momentum were to happen, I think it would be by you making a convincing AtE case that Norwee and Norwee alone was setting you up. You start trying to set anything else up with any other player and it'll just shrink the mislim pool if we flip you anyway.

hm...tbone what i meant is that i wanted to be the flip today and i know that looks weird and maybe i'm being stupid but i really think it was the play here after norwee was about to go down

i had to bus norwee way before to survive that i think, and if i pushed cakez with norwee before, it would look anti-associative to cakez

i could try to seriously survive the norwe flip but if i failed on my pushes it would look anti-associative and potentially clear people like cakez, std, etc

we can't have everyone cleared at this game so i thought that rather than risky getting more mislims before i go down (i definitely don't think i could ever survive 3 mislims after norwee was about to go down), i would try to make the pool wider and seeing people suspecting Ali again/Gamma for their posts towards me i think it worked a bit (and also, psyche looks way better)

That's like the most dangerous thing to me and psyche's replacement, shrinking the mislim pool. There's nothing you can post at this point that will expand it, because the other players will view you as trying to set up mislims. We have to let the other players set up their own mislims.

true, but i do think that last post towards enchant may help some WIFOM late game perhaps so that's why i did it

i agree with you that i'm not going to seriously post anything anymore, i'm thinking of just waiting more and then suddenly scum claiming and acting ultra defeated to make it seem like the game is going terribly/miserable/dramatic by scum from the start, which may make it easier to push ali rep at some point later yeah

[Lazy Shirou]

that last post was to have anything for u guys to push in enchant if it EVER come down to that

i think that scum claiming with a lot of defeatist AtE that this is a terrible game and etc for me is the best i can do at this point and let the game move on

i could forever wait to see if someone else changes momentum, but i think the ali rep needs a narrative to be pushed, that i can give to you guys if i scum claim as defeated scum before going down

[Lazy Shirou]

telling that we were feeling the heat on us since the start of the game and etc

iindirectly hinting that scum was suspected from the start (ali/me/norwe) and that the people pushing me back were town since i was feeling the heat in the first place (also, pooky town flipped)