Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Cheetory6]

Ah that's actually right.
I thought Viktor was the one who let them do that q.q
Okay we're not in as broken of a position as I thought lol.

[Gammagooey]

it does make an alquin counterclaim the correct play if/when 4nx flips scum though

[4nxi3ty]

Pretty sure Titus was trying to get towncred for when I flipped and/or tie herself to me.

I'd lean toward baneing vezok atm.
No idea what's the better choice is.
(but it's not like my opinion matters to others at this point anyway)

Sign changed to candle last night.

My role is basically useless now so I won't be too upset at being lynched, and I get why my slot needs clearing up.

[Untrod Tripod]

gamma my team is telling me that you're town

and I'm starting to believe them

don't you go breaking my heart

[Gammagooey]

i absolutely completely fail to see why you would think I'm town now and not after day 1.

[Untrod Tripod]

isn't the important thing that I do at all

also I thought Titus made a big huge show about appealing to me and that seems like really really really really bad play if you're her scumbuddy

[Cheetory6]

I don't really get why a scumteam with UT on it would kill people who were confirmedly not Alquin.

P-Edit: I thought it seemed a lot like Titus was waffling fucking hard on Gamma in an awkward way. Maybe that was her intent, but still.

[Gammagooey]

it totally wouldn't be? It was beyond obvious that I wasn't getting lynched yesterday.

[Cheetory6]

I think mastin needs to start getting in here and obvtowning because I'm getting really fucking shifty eyes at her for
a) her Titusread/townbloccing
b) her claim is starting to feel awkward the more I think about it
c) her reads on singer and I are just complete shit.
d) lurking which is apparently scummy for her.

I'm sure I'll get a lovely shitsling post for saying this, but I don't trust her at all anymore, despite her role.

[Cheetory6]

I'd lean toward baneing vezok atm.

You should probably actually make a case there or on something if you care at all about living.

[Gammagooey]

I agree that she needs to get the hell in here and start posting real soon

though mostly it's because about half the game is still quite likely town and she's in the half that should eventually become corpses instead of actually scumreading her

[ChannelDelibird]

Wait to vote on the Choice before everyone checks in and we talk about it for a bit.

If UT is not Alquin, the real Alquin should come forward now so that we can choose to make the Trade and then lynch UT.

[Cheetory6]

That's dumb.

[4nxi3ty]

I'd lean toward baneing vezok atm.

You should probably actually make a case there or on something if you care at all about living.

nah I'm not gonna BS a case on someone when I don't really have one

just my best guess as scum based on how he acted towards me

and honestly don't care to put a ton of effort into this game (i didn't replace in for the prestige at winning mafia, replaced to help DV who asked nicely)
town seems to know what it's doing based on last night and if lynching me helps clears things up and allows town to move onto to scum then so be it.

[Cheetory6]

Like, read things over again and if you come to the same spot again we can talk about it, but Gamma's just illustrated why 1v1 trading for Alquin isn't ideal atm.

[Cheetory6]

Also, sorry, you're not dumb.
I'm just being rude because I'm in a weird mood atm.

Also also, CDB, results from last night or..?

[ChannelDelibird]

I've caught up with posts (was passing on a message from the Goo from while I was out).

If UT is scum and we don't lynch him Today because of no counterclaim, we are unlikely to hit both other scum.

Plus, you know, lynches are protown. If we can get three of them by having someone out UT as scum, that's clearly a good thing for us. Worst case scenario is someone counterclaims UT as scum, we mislynch UT, then get guaranteed scum lynched Tomorrow, which is not ideal but is at least not awful.

Not yet claiming my result because I want to see what someone who hasn't yet posted says before I do that.

[Cheetory6]

We're not choosing Trade.
I don't care how confident anyone is on any read. I will fucking fight anyone hard on that.

If UT is scum and we don't lynch him Today because of no counterclaim, we are unlikely to hit both other scum.

And if he's town? You can't have one side of the coin without the other.
If we lynch a single scum today then we leave any Alquin claims alive over the night cycle and then boom we can trade safely the following day cycle with literally no repercussions based on Alquin's passive.

[Cheetory6]

which is not ideal but is at least not awful.

One scum for four town. Seems pretty good to me. -.-

[ChannelDelibird]

Ugh, you're probably right. After the end of Yesterday and Titus's flip, I'm more open to UTtown than I have been for a long time. I'd just ... really, really like to know sooner rather than later, and his being alive Today is a problem for me.

[vezokpiraka]

Pretty sure Titus was trying to get towncred for when I flipped and/or tie herself to me.

I'd lean toward baneing vezok atm.
No idea what's the better choice is.
(but it's not like my opinion matters to others at this point anyway)

Sign changed to candle last night.

My role is basically useless now so I won't be too upset at being lynched, and I get why my slot needs clearing up.

What's with scumteams always trying to push for my lynch?

Am I that easy to mislynch?

I'm not sure who we should bane.

[ChannelDelibird]

CES points out that we can have non-UT Alquin counterclaim without even having to take the Trade. He argues that it would be sufficiently ineffective for scum to counterclaim a genuine UT here that we can probably be certain of UT's alignment either way.

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't really get why a scumteam with UT on it would kill people who were confirmedly not Alquin.

P-Edit: I thought it seemed a lot like Titus was waffling fucking hard on Gamma in an awkward way. Maybe that was her intent, but still.

they wouldn't

and a scumteam with me on it would kill the doctor claim

just for the record

[Untrod Tripod]

I think mastin needs to start getting in here and obvtowning because I'm getting really fucking shifty eyes at her for
a) her Titusread/townbloccing
b) her claim is starting to feel awkward the more I think about it
c) her reads on singer and I are just complete shit.
d) lurking which is apparently scummy for her.

I'm sure I'll get a lovely shitsling post for saying this, but I don't trust her at all anymore, despite her role.

you might, but not from me

I think mastin is looking pretty goddamn scummy atm

[Cheetory6]

Ew gross.
Now that you mention it the kills seem like they're being made with 0 concern for a doctor protection.
Mastin moves into my would lynch pile for today.