Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)
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heuristically_alone Goon
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xyzzy they/themcomical third optionthey/them
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I don't think lynching Robert makes the most sense here; either his claim is legitimate but was poorly delivered, or it's a completely incomprehensible gambit; I doubt the latter is that likely, especially given that mafia have daytalk--I doubt any rational scum would make a fake claim like that under any of the likely circumstances, especially when they have the chance to confer with their teammates to discuss things.-
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iraonavp Mafia Scum
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I think that Robert is town-aligned.
I feel like heuristically_alone is more likely to be town-aligned than not, when I think about it. I'm doubting that there would be both a macho townie and a bodyguard, when both aren't strong roles.
I strongly doubt this is a gambit on Robert's part to save heuristically_alone, where both are scum-aligned.
552 does give me cause for concern, though.
I think we should not lynch heuristically_alone, and definitely not Robert2424. I won't protect him so mafia can kill him if they want to, otherwise he can have the opportunity to save others from death.
VOTE: Keyser Söze-
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xyzzy they/themcomical third optionthey/them
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if you think we should lynch h_a, why did you vote for Keyser, who you don't even mention in that post?-
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iraonavp Mafia Scum
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Tyler the Creator Goon
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...and which one of his caught-scum troll posts he's posted since you counterclaimed him caused you to change your mind?In post 653, iraonavp wrote:I feel like heuristically_alone is more likely to be town-aligned than not-
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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Tyler the Creator Goon
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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You mean when he quoted that one part? I wouldn't say that's actually suspicious on it's own, more like the fact that he's kind of coasting now and actually following along with my opinion without any aggression at all
I don't really know for the second part? I definitely think it would be weird if he kept pushing that as he didn't really have a case to begin with, and I actually wouldn't expect him to... follow up anyway-
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Keyser Söze Jack of All Trades
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Zachstralkita Jack of All Trades
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In post 659, Dunnstral wrote:Tyler what do you think of Zach? I know you town read him but have you noticed he stopped all aggression on me for... quite a while now, and only acts that way when he had something to "go on" that you quoted ("?") and when I called him out on it
@Zach what do you think of H_A?
Scum. Am I not voting him?-
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toolenduso Mafia Scum
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The amount and structure of resistance to lynching HA makes me continually comfortable with the lynch. And regardless of his flip, we will have a lot more evidence to look at tomorrow than we've had for most of today."Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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In post 666, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 659, Dunnstral wrote:Tyler what do you think of Zach? I know you town read him but have you noticed he stopped all aggression on me for... quite a while now, and only acts that way when he had something to "go on" that you quoted ("?") and when I called him out on it
@Zach what do you think of H_A?
Scum. Am I not voting him?
You're not voting him-
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Zachstralkita Jack of All Trades
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In post 635, Jaack wrote:In post 634, toolenduso wrote:I mean, you make some salient points. But there are a couple of points not quite making it all the way through my head:
In post 632, Jaack wrote:Scenario 2 is just about as unlikely due to Robert's claim. His claim doesn't make much sense if he's the only scum: he was trying to stop a lynch on one of two prs in that scenario.
Wouldn't it only make sense for Robert to have been trying to stop HA's lynch, given the fact that Robert didn't claim untilafterira counterclaimed? Put another way, ira was not in danger -- so how could scumRobert's claim have been a means of getting scumIra out of the noose?
And if it is the case that Robert-ira doesn't make sense as a scum team, then doesn't that change your possible arrangements to {all three are town} or {Robert and HA are scum together; ira is town}?
The Robert/ira scum team is definitely the least likely, which is why we should lynch HA first if robert flips scum. But if we assume that that is reality for a moment, then the second that HA flipped town (which he is in this scenario) ira would be basically confirmed scum. Robert would be preemptively protecting his scumbuddy I guess. It doesn't make that much sense but its probably the 3rd most likely case.
In post 634, toolenduso wrote:In post 632, Jaack wrote:Ira or h_a being scum alone is maybe possible, but it wouldn't really make sense with Robert's role. Macho townie is a really strange role unless there are multiple protective options.
I don't believe I've ever played with a macho role and I don't really understand why it would make more sense to have a macho role with two protective town PRs than with one protective town PR.
Well macho town with no night role is almost 100% pointless. Macho is primarily used to balance a powerful role in a game with a doctor (e.g. a Cop+Doc is really powerful, while a Macho Cop+Doc is reasonable). There isn't really any reason for a Macho VT to exist in general. In order for such a role to come into play, both a doc and a nk would have to target what is essentially a VT. In order for that role to make any amount of sense, there would have to be multiple protects. Even then, it still seems weird, particularly if Robert is the only Macho townie.
Doc+BG is weird. Macho VT is weird. Doc+BG+Macho VT is weird, but there is a bit of logic there.
In post 638, Jaack wrote:Like if I were to put totally made up odds on it
64% - Robert and HA are scum, Ira is town
30% - All Town
5% - Robert and ira scum, HA town
1% - Something stupid
Jack. If your going to mention me in your posts. Please use proper grammar. Out of all the people who suspect me, you make the least amount of sense. I literally reread some of your posts several times.
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Robert2424 Goon
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Jaack Goon
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In post 671, Robert2424 wrote:
Jack. If your going to mention me in your posts. Please use proper grammar. Out of all the people who suspect me, you make the least amount of sense. I literally reread some of your posts several times.
P.S. your %'s make 0 sense.
Reading comprehension is your friend. I literally write for a living, so, you know, I know how to grammar good.
My percents were my opinions of how likely each scenario was. I don't see how they wouldn't make sense.
It's also nice how you failed to criticize any of the points I made.
I also have no clue what you are talking about with the vig thing. My plan was to lynch you today and, assuming you flip scum, lynch HA tomorrow. But seeing as there doesn't seem to be significant support for that, I guess HA is okay enough to vote
VOTE: heuristically_alone
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In post 655, iraonavp wrote:I don't think we should lynch heuristically_alone.
Can you explain why you think that? Because I'm still leaning towards lynching him and I know Zach also wants to lynch him so we actually have more than enough people here to lynch him-
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