Mini 816: Revenge of the Monkey(GAME OVER!)

[Riceballtail]

My personal win condition is very similar to dramonic's, and Charlatan's to a degree. Thus, I find charter scummy for trying to push dramonic in post 302.

Of all the win conditions, Dev's is most lacking, and thus the most suspicious given my own condition.

Found this gem in my nth reread.

Any response to that?

[ryan2754]

I don't get what you are asking...what are you asking me to respond to?

[Sajin]

RBT- can you flesh out a case and answer the questions directed at you?

[Riceballtail]

MOD:

I will be V/LA through 8/29/09. Due to this circumstance, I request a deadline extension.

Ryan: I am asking how we're supposed to take the quoted material, especially now knowing that Dramonic/Devestation both turned out to be scum.

Sajin: Any questions besides the win condition one of which I haven't answered? Since you all beat that to death D1, I find it funny that you would bring it up again at LyLo.

[MonkeyMan576]

I will allow a 2 day deadline extention.

[ryan2754]

My personal win condition is very similar to dramonic's, and Charlatan's to a degree. Thus, I find charter scummy for trying to push dramonic in post 302.

Of all the win conditions, Dev's is most lacking, and thus the most suspicious given my own condition.

Found this gem in my nth reread.

Any response to that?

Well, how should I respond to that?
I found charter scummy, and he turned out town.
I found Dev's win condition most lacking, and he was mafia.
Charlatan bothered me because of the whole paraphrase ordeal (IIRC).

As for dramonic, I found him scummy multiple times throughout the first couple days. I alleviated some suspicion with his win condition claim, but ultimately found him worthy of a vote and lynch despite it.

[ryan2754]

Please provide your paraphrase of your win condition, please.

[Sajin]

Regardless deadline is soon so, I will be placing a vote soon.

Honestly we do not have enough power in our town to have a godfather. 4 scum out of 12 with a roleblocker and we had a politician, a cop and unconfirmed neighbors. So there is either a mafia mason or a godfather and this ticks me off because this setup is scum sided. We had 1 ML so far. RBT responded scummily to the possibility of their being a godfather (WIFOM), if I was a vanilla investigated like that in that situation I would of hardcore denied that.

This said I dislike Ryans defensiveness about the nightkill (I would not have killed eek, he was the most like me). I also very much dislike what we talked about in our neighbor QT.

Whatever.

vote: RBT

Less arguments. Bad voting history. Not answering a simple question. Even a investigated townie could do better than that and I think she is playing similarly to Mushroom Kingdom Mafia.

So Ryan, did I lose?

[ryan2754]

No you didn't.

I really don't know what to do here.

As much as I think Sajin is scum, the whole RBT scenario is bothering me.

But because of RBT's unwillingness to answer questions.

Vote: RBT

Did I lose Sajin?

[Sajin]

I am town. If you are too. Victory.

[MonkeyMan576]

The town had been through a lot. Several of their own had died, so they knew they had to get it right this time. With a multitude of options in front of them, their choice wasn't easy. They knew if they were wrong, it would mean the end of their civilization. With a heavy heart, they decided to lynch Riceballtail, who had been investigated as innocent earlier. He declared his innocence until the very end. Once the final act had been accomplished, they searched his residence, and found that he was, in fact, scum. As the mafia godfather, he was indeed innocent in all investigations. The town had acheived their victory at long last. They celebrated, remembering those who had fallen before them.

Riceballtail

,

the

mafia godfather

,

was lynched day 6.

The town wins! Congratulations! All players may participate in post game conversation.

[charter]

Nice. Good job guys! I would like to say I totally called dramonic/Devestation day one. I gave up Devestation when Konowa did, because I was pretty sure he was the cop, but when he stopped going after Devestation, I thought he wouldn't do that if he was the actual cop.

Seriously, there is nothing wrong with bandwagons, at all. I don't know why you guys found them so scummy.

Thanks for modding MonkeyMan!

[StrangerCoug]

Why was I killed? I do realize that I'm getting better at Mafia, but I don't think

THAT

much better.

[MonkeyMan576]

Official Role PM's

Charlatan
You are a vanilla townie. You have no special powers, but can vote
each day as a normal player. You are aligned with the town, and win
when all threats to the town are eliminated or nothing can stop that
from happening.

StrangerCoug
You are a vanilla townie. You have no special powers, but can vote
each day as a normal player. You are aligned with the town, and win
when all threats to the town are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.


Charter
You are a vanilla townie. You have no special powers, but can vote
each day as a normal player. You are aligned with the town, and win
when all threats to the town are eliminated or nothing can stop that
from happening.

AdamNW/My Milked Eek
You are a vanilla townie. You have no special powers, but can vote
each day as a normal player. You are aligned with the town, and win
when all threats to the town are eliminated or nothing can stop that
from happening.

Sajin
You are a town mason. You are partnered with Ryan2754 and may
talk to that player outside of the game via pm or another chat
method(AOL IM, MSN IM, etc). Ryan2754's alignment is not
confirmed. You are aligned with the town, and win when all threats to
the town are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.

Ryan2754
You are a town mason. You are partnered with Sajin and may talk to
that player outside of the game via pm or another chat method(AOL
IM, MSN IM,etc). Sajin's alignment is not confirmed. You are
aligned with the town, and win when all threats to the town are
eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.

ScottBrosius
You are the town politician. As a night action, you may target
another player to buy his vote. The following day, if successfull, you
will have two votes and the targeted player will have none. You are
aligned with the town, and win when all threats to the town are
eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.

Konowa
You are the town cop. As a night action, you may target one player,
and I will inform you of their aligment. You are not aware of your
sanity. You are aligned with the town, and win when all threats to
the town are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.


Regfan/Pim/Animorpherv1
You are the survivor. You win if you make it to the end of the game
alive. You are not aligned with the town or the mafia, your only
loyalty is to yourself.

Devestation
You are a mafia goon. You have no special powers, other than your
ability to vote and talk to your fellow mafia and also the town.
Your scumbuddies are Snake(Mafia Godfather) and Dramonic(Mafia
Roleblocker). You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated
or nothing can stop that from happening. You may talk to your fellow
scum here:

Dramonic
You are the mafia roleblocker. As a night action, you may target one player,and they will not be able to perform their night action for that night. Your scumbuddies are Snake(mafia godfather) and Devestation(mafia goon). You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening. You may talk to your fellow scum here:

Snake/Riceballtail
You are the mafia godfather. You lead the mafia, have the final say in all mafia night actions, and are innocent in all investigations. You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening. Your scumbuddies are dramonic(mafia roleblocker) and Devestation(mafia goon). You may talk to your fellow scum here:

[dramonic]

aww :3

Good job town ^_^

Ask RBT why she killed SC, I personally was dead when it happened.

[My Milked Eek]

Awesome!

I know I've been on your ass during the previous day, Sajin, but I wouldn't have voted you if I were ryan.

Thanks for modding an enjoyable game, monkeyman!

[MonkeyMan576]

Thanks for playing, everyone, and for putting up with me being a first time mod(at least on MS).

[dramonic]

^^ It was great fun

[Devestation]

I failed miserably with my own defence and scum lookings from day one /me slaps himself

RBT had posted her plans in our quick topic that we were communicating with, I was wondering how she was going to force the masons to distrust each other... Good game anyway

[Riceballtail]

I killed Coug because I figured you were a likely Doc, and I wanted to make sure Konowa wouldn't have a protection. Personally, I think that we did have a slight advantage in having both a RB/GF, but we lost it when the mod made the error. If I'd have come up innocent the first time, then I think I'd have been fine making it to endgame. I can't say I blame it entirely on the mod, because the town had a lot of good players on it (I was worried most about Konowa/Charlatan). I was hoping that the gamble of killing MME would turn the two of you on each other. I'm honestly surprised that I managed to take this to LyLo. Thanks for the game, and next time make sure to double-check investigations.

[ryan2754]

Well, that was interesting.

From now on, if I am in LyLo, I need to vote for who I "don't" think is scum.

Here was mine and Sajin's QT.

To be honest, Sajin, when you suggested the voting for each other thing, I was almost positive you were scum.

This is what he suggested: "Alright well how about this. We already have information that RBT is "clear". How about we both request that RBT votes first. If she votes you and I do not auto hammer, you know I am clear. If she votes me and you do not auto hammer I know your clear. If you agree with this either type it in the thread, or post here you agree, and I will type it.

I still think its her. You and I have good voting histories and meaningful cases both. She does not."

You did have very good voting histories Sajin. My issue was you kept throwing that in people's faces. However, vote analysis is a big indicator of scum, and well, you were right, you looked good. When you voted, I was at that point positive that Sajin was town. I was just afraid at messing up again, because I am AWFUL end game.

I know it was WIFOM, but my reasoning for voting off MME would hold if I were mafia, for what it was worth.

Granted, I do think the mod messup was kind of big, because it definitely introduced the idea of Godfather, so yeah.

Good game cits.

[dramonic]

You still maintain your never-lynched streak Ryan

[MonkeySudo]

Well, I apologize for the mistake, but in the end I think the players would of considered the godfather idea anyways, considering there were two masons and an investigated innocent.

[dramonic]

Well, no matter ^_^;

[Sajin]

I was going back and forth about ryan. Mostly cause of the claiming in the thread. That bothered me. But I could not seem too bothered as that would be scummy. Ugh.

GG all.