MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (fl's subgame): Game Over

[Porkens]

1 - wasnt that the whole hub-ub about rule 1a?

2 - what if budja is lying and is scum and brings another scum here? scum win, that's what.

3 - no, I'm saying that if we wait, we leave open a window for someone to be added. I'd rather not have that happen pre-lynch.

4 - I think kairyu would be an unlikely kill for scum.

5 - join us. you wanted in on the alliance. there is no turning back now.

[SocioPath]

If there are no mafia here, and its a 3rd party keeping the game going, then its either Sajin or Budja.

And I believe that Sajin's role is more likely to be that of an SK than Budja's.

Still not behind a Budja lynch. Someone should just throw him into SSK's game, and if he is still around in that game, then its an obvlynch from there.

Vote: Sajin

[Sajin]

Well I suppose we did lynch a serial killer. And if we had mafia and a serial killer here, I would have to be finding where the other kill was. And I don't see it. Since porkens knows he did not save anyone, either 2 more people here are lying or none of them. That makes sense to me.

So...are we assuming no mafia started here and or they and the SK double killed n1?

[Porkens]

I appreciate your voting but let me point out...

BUDJA HAS CLAIMED 3RD PARTY

[Sajin]

Sociopath how could I be a serial killer? Where have my kills gone if so? Also the game I started in had a serial killer drop already.

[SpyreX]

1.) I'm not risking a modkill by giving any more information than I have. If you have SPECIFIC questions that I can run by a mod sure but not risking it for something that means very little.

2.) If there was 2 mafia with the claims the setup would have been very close to unwinnable. If there was 1 I'm betting they got the hell out (as there was a possible day 2 lose).

3.) If, for example, sociopath is scum and there is a swap of ohh, me for a scum with budja here the game ends. Period.

4.) The absence of a kill last night by mafia.

@Sociopath:

:headdesk:

And how, praytell, would we DO that? I'm not going to hope that another game helps us versus as 2 illustrates could lose us the game we've batted perfect on.

[Porkens]

Saijin, we lynched a "hitman" day 1
we lynched an "awesome serial killer" day 2

I'm guessing there was never the possibility of 2 night kills.

[SocioPath]

Sure. I am Rhada, Heir to Keld. I am a planeswalker of Planar Chaos.

Triggered ability- Whenever I would be killed, instead of dieing I can pick a sub game plane. I am swapped planes with a random person from that game. I was told I would die last night so I picked this game and was informed I swapped with zazier. (it has regeneration and graveyard flavor but I figured that would get confusing) If my random target would be invalid for any reason, I will die as normal. This ability uses +1/+1 counters of which I started with XXXX of them.

That just sounds more like an SK than Budja's role.

[Sajin]

And for the last time, I am not 3rd party. If I was 3rd party why the hell would I have challenged kairyuu like I did?

unvote; vote: Budja

[SpyreX]

Which is fine and if Budja doesn't make the game end AND if we don't get clustered by hijinks from the other game THEN Sajin can be a lynch.

[SpyreX]

There. GOOD.

Sociopath be a helper.

[Sajin]

Why are you assuming the game will not end spyrex? That is what your whole theory is based on Budja.

Did you start with that enchantment?

[SpyreX]

I'm seriously about this mufasa is about to dangle and I'd rather have that not happen before this.

In fact: DEAR OTHER GAME PLEASE LET US WIN OUR GAME BEFORE YOU SCREW IT UP

LOVE, US

P.S. IF YOU CANT DO THAT THEN SHOOT SAJIN SO HE GTFO'S

LOVE US AGAIN

---- Preview Edit

I'm not assuming the game doesn't end. I am expecting it to. IF, however, it doesn't then preparedness is awesome.

I did not start with it.

[SocioPath]

Swaps don't happen WHEN it goes to night. It happens AFTER the night.

So Mufasa will be lynched. Then time will pass. Then it will be day in there game again and then you'll see any swapping that has happened.

[Porkens]

If there are no mafia here, and its a 3rd party keeping the game going, then its either Sajin or Budja.

And I believe that Sajin's role is more likely to be that of an SK than Budja's.

Still not behind a Budja lynch. Someone should just throw him into SSK's game, and if he is still around in that game, then its an obvlynch from there.

Vote: Sajin

Sociopath, Budja is 100% a 3rd party. He would be keeping the game going if he were the only one left.

[SocioPath]

Sociopath, Budja is 100% a 3rd party. He would be keeping the game going if he were the only one left.

100% Wrong. He said he was a surviver. He'll win with scum or town, whomever is left.

[Porkens]

Sociopath, Budja is 100% a 3rd party. He would be keeping the game going if he were the only one left.

100% Wrong. He said he was a surviver. He'll win with scum or town, whomever is left.

back at you; he's 100% 3rd party and could be lying about winning with whomever.

[SpyreX]

What possible benefit is there to waiting for other games to throw a wrench in this?

Seriously.

Budja telling the truth is a liability that needs to be eliminated. I'm not counting on altruism to fix this at this juncture.

Budja lying is SCUM and should be lynched thusly.

[SpyreX]

DEAR ZITO I AM NOW LOOKING AT OTHER GAMES AND STILL MISS YOU.

KILL MUFASA BUT LET US DO OURS FIRST

WE ARE YELLING THROUGH SPACE

[SocioPath]

back at you; he's 100% 3rd party and could be lying about winning with whomever.

Exactly. Either one of them could be lying.

And I think it is more likely that is Sajin who is lying.

Budja telling the truth is a liability that needs to be eliminated.

Wrong.

[SpyreX]

....

I like how you've opted NOW to come out and be a hero.

If he flips scum you better get your ticket ready because you're going choo-choo.

There is no WRONG about the fact that if he is telling the truth no matter what the remaining scum will never kill him because he is a HELPER. So I'm not holding a pipe dream that with 6 left a town swapper is going to go "hey, lets bring the survivor here! if he's lying at this point its a wasted lynch! or he is lying and is scum! thats a great pro-town idea!"

[SocioPath]

Ok.
Ignore both of their roles for a second.
Now look at just how each of them have been playing in general.
Then look as to how each of them have been playing as compared to how they would play with the roles they've been said they have been given.

I still think Sajin is the scummier one.

[Porkens]

unofficial

votecount:

Budja (3) Porkens, SpyreX, Sajin

SpyreX (1) Budja

Sajin (0) SocioPath
Quagmire (0)
Porkens (0)
SocioPath (0)

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posting

voting: Quagmire

[Porkens]

Socio, ok, but is budja scummy?

[SpyreX]

Budja who was on rollerskates doing absolutely the bare minimum but jumping when mentioned?

Versus Sajin who had bizarro world fake-tracking to try and catch Kai in a lie?

If Budja is a survivor and the game sees tomorrow I am all for lynching Sajin (notice I illuded to that in my rambling post).

If Budja is a scum and the game sees tomorrow I am absolutely for lynching you.

If Budja gets lynched and the game ends I will cheer <--- this is what I expect to happen.